If You’re Regretting Your Trump Vote—Now’s the Time to Be Loud


                                                                                                                         Photo: USA Today

A vote is loud.

Whether that vote is cast with trepidation or begrudgingly or without all the information or as protest—it makes the same bold statements:
This is my choice.
I am with this person.
I consent to them.
I bless their conduct.

A vote doesn’t have qualifiers or caveats or escape clauses. It is simply says Yes.

Before Donald Trump had spent one day in the White House, his approval rating had already begun plummeting, showing that many who voted for him were already rightly feeling buyer’s remorse.

Whether it was his nonsensical Twitter rant at the cast of Hamilton, his public attacks on the Intelligence community, his social media criticisms of social rights activist John Lewis, the disturbing collection of White Supremacists and unqualified billionaires beginning to assemble as his inner circle, or the odd decision to use his daughter as a surrogate First Lady/White House staffer—it all showed someone who was ill-equipped to do whatever it was they expected him to do when they voted. Even as they said “Let’s give him a chance”, inside they were thinking, “What have we done?”

In the weeks following the election, one of the refrains I heard as I implored these people to speak, was that those regretting their vote were now embarrassed and being shamed—and for this reason they were silent.

My response was and is: They don’t get that privilege.

Silence is not a luxury anyone gets in days like these. If you voted for Donald Trump and you’re ashamed of that fact or if you feel like you’re being criticized I’m sorry but that isn’t what this is about right now. Your shame doesn’t trump your responsibility. Your regret without a response is useless. No ones interested in shaming you, we’re interested in hearing you.

To be silent now, after voting so loudly is irresponsible and unhelpful.
Your silence doesn’t protect refugees or avoid disastrous Cabinet appointees or pay treatment bills for the soon-to-be uninsured.
It doesn’t shield marginalized communities from hate crimes or uncover the truth about Russia’s role in our democratic process or challenge the President’s flagrant nepotism.
Your silence doesn’t encourage lawmakers to push against their party even if they feel they should and it doesn’t show solidarity with activists in the streets spending themselves to advocate for equality and justice.
It doesn’t discourage the President and his spokespeople from rolling out an unrelenting stream of lies or attacking those doing real, Constitution-guarding journalism.
It doesn’t hold those in the highest levels of power and influence, accountable for disregarding every procedure, rule of law, and safeguard established to ensure that citizens are protected from those governing them.

Your silence doesn’t do anything right now but allow you to divorce yourself from your vote, to avoid any accountability for the man you’ve chosen, and perpetuates the erratic, reckless behavior that is endangering all of us.

What this means, friend, is that if you are indeed regretting your vote—this would be the time to stand up and say so. Millions of us are out here doing the work of pushing back and speaking for the marginalized, and we’re marching and we’re calling our elected officials and we’re busting our butts to keep our Constitution intact.

And all the while the narrative the President is selling is that this is a partisan, Liberal Media-created mirage. He’s attempting to manufacture a political civil war via social media to divert attention from the insidious stuff happening right now that should be horrifying all of us.

And every time you say nothing, our Republic is more and more vulnerable, more and more compromised, more and more in danger of losing the very essence of its freedom and liberty.

All this to say, I’m really sorry for your embarrassment, but even more concerned about your silence. 

Your vote in November, for whatever reason you cast it—was loud.

And if you regret that vote or if you don’t consent to what you are seeing from this man and this Administration, your loudness now is necessary too.

Please join those of us who are resisting together because we love America more than a political party, because this isn’t about any of us, it’s about all of us.

Please speak, and speak up.

 

 

 

 

 

323 thoughts on “If You’re Regretting Your Trump Vote—Now’s the Time to Be Loud

  1. Oh, my, John P. This is a call to confess and repent. This is a call to do better. This is a call to take action and resist.

    Because I am disabled and handicapped, I am unable to get out and march or stand in protest, but I can locate and share petitions which I do in my FB group Gloriamarie’s Progressive Stuff. I invite anyone who wants to join this group. Please read the pinned post. It’s important.

    This is the extent of my action but I do what I can with what I have been given in the time I have.

  2. Your obsession about politics reveals you lack of faith in God. But considering you brought it up are you suggesting I should have instead voted for the most un-trusted politician from the last several elections? Donald may indeed do something irrefutabely dangerous or even stupid,… but he may also do something radically new and refreshing. Hillary on the other hand was certain, torturous,slow death to this country by asphyxiation. Please stop tromping into politics with your religious intentions. Have you forgotten that God is ALWAYS in control!

    • You need to knock it off with all this “God is ALWAYS in control” bullshit. If God is in control NOW, then that means God was NOT in control during the eight years of POTUS Obama.

      I am of the opinion that there are certain areas of life in which God permits humanity to rely on its own resources and devices. And politics is one of them.

      We are in for a hell of a rough ride in the near future and God had NOTHING to do with it.

      • I would add that God gave us the freedom to screw up, he doesn’t want us to but he gave us free will. Those who think this is Gods will are delusional. But you know it is much easier to blame God or the infidel ex president than take any responsibility for whats happened on themselves. Feel I should note that I am a fan of the ex president who was by my standards a Christian. Just needed to add my two cents. Peace………..

        • “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

          • Your strategy is brilliant and it’s working. I would like to help you drive the troll’s away.

            “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

            “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

            “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

            • Your strategy is brilliant and it’s working. I would like to help you drive the troll’s away.

              “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

              “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

              “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

              • Your strategy is brilliant and it’s working. I would like to help you drive the troll’s away.

                “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                • “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                  “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                  “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                  • Your strategy is brilliant and it’s working. I would like to help you drive the troll’s away.

                    “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                    “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                    “Once Abba Antonios received a letter from Emperor Constantine the Great which requested him to go to Constantinople. He wondered about what to do. So he said to his disciple, Abba Paul: “What do you say? Should I go?” And the Abba answered him: “If you go, you will be called ‘Antonios’; however, if you do not go, ‘Abba Antonios.’”

                    • A beginning monk, who went to a certain elder to confess, posed, among others, this question: “Why, Father, do I fall so often into sloth?”

                      “You lack the faith which makes you see God everywhere; for this reason you can be careless and lazy about your salvation,” the discerning elder wisely explained.”

                  • “My brother, wisdom is not found in much learning and many letters; rather, as the Holy Scriptures say, the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord, and prudence the desire of the Holy; indeed, it is good to know the law of the mind. This is correct, for faith in God engenders a good mind, and the good mind is a river of living water; he who has attained it will be filled with its beneficial and life-bearing waters.

                    “Neither wisdom nor prudence can exist where there is not fear of the Lord, because the wealth of wisdom is to revere the Lord, to whom belongs all glory” (Saint Ephraim).

                • “My brother, do you consider yourself spiritually learned? From your deeds you can perceive the actuality of this character trait; for, exactly as the body is dead without the breath, so any knowledge, without accompanying spiritual works, is dead and of no benefit. So if it is wrong for a Christian not to know Scripture, it is doubly wrong when he knows Scripture, but nevertheless disdains it by not applying its teachings to his life.”

              • “My brother, take care with all of your heart, when you study the Divine Scriptures, to drink in avidly the richness which proceeds from your study, exactly as a baby drinks milk from the maternal breast. From the study of Divine Scripture, you will learn of the bright feats of virtue and thus your heart will be filled with joy and delight.

                “If the interpreters of the writings of the wise of this world carefully study non-existent wisdom (for the wisdom of the present world ‘is foolishness before God’), with far greater enthusiasm we should study and learn by heart the words of God, for the salvation of our souls; and this the Holy Spirit lauds, blessing those who explore ‘His testimonies,’ because such as these will have sought God with all of their hearts.

                “Is there anyone more perverted than he who has sweet and savory water and does not give a drink to his thirsty soul? Is there anyone more selfish than he who holds on to a beneficial book and does not give it to his brother to build him up spiritually? And can you imagine a lazier man than one who is thirsty and sits next to a well, not raising his hand to take water and satisfy his thirst? Is there a man more unprogressive and spiritually indifferent than the one who has, or receives, a religious book, yet does not care to read it?

                “My brother, labor with anyone who asks you to teach him to read in order to study the wonders of God and to bless His majestic Name. And be certain that God will reward you for this labor” (Saint Ephraim).”

        • I think that some people take comfort in the idea of a “Puppet Master God” because it absolves them of any responsibility of working to make things better.

        • Joe Catholic, stay out of any discussion of abortion until the great day comes when YOU can get pregnant. You men aren’t the ones who get stuck with the lease.

      • So much what you wrote, Scott! We got ourselves into this mess, and it will take the actions of all of us–those who voted for Trump and now regret it, those who voted for Clinton, a third-party candidate, or those who did not vote at all–to get us out of it. God didn’t do this to us; we did it to ourselves.

        • “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

          “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

          • “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

            “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

            “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

            “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

            “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

            “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

            • “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

              “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

              “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

              “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

              “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

              “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

              • “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

                “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

                “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

                “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

                “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

                “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

              • “The brothers of a certain skete gathered in a circle around one of the Fathers there to hear spiritual words from his mouth.

                “Why is the soul not attracted by the promises of God, but more easily swept away by the deceptive things of the world?” someone asked.

                “Because it does not have faith,” answered the elder. “When the soul, through faith, has tasted of heavenly good things, it is impossible for it to be tempted by the vanity of the world.”

      • I have long thought that those who say “God is always in control” have a very childish faith. Like tiny little children who believe their parents can never make a mistake. It’s sweet to see, but the fact is parents do goof up all the time.

        To say God is always in control is a way of giving one’s self permission to fail to take responsibility for one’s actions, one’s choices, one’s decisions.

        Because let’s face it. It please God to create us with freedom of choice, free will, and no one respects our free will more than God.

        If God were always in control, there would be no sin, no disasters, no death, no accidents, no harm of any kind. And all of human history teaches us that there is sin, disasters, death, accidents, and a great deal of harm.

        God always allows us to make whatever disastrous choices we wish.

        • I agree that God isn’t in control but I think it’s even more than that: if there was no harm, then how would we know joy? We only know a thing in relation to its opposite. So I wonder if God allows for both so that we may experience the fullness of life. Just curious what your thoughts are about that. People conveniently seem to think “God is good!” or “in control!” mostly when things are going their way, forgetting that their perspective is simply one of infinite others perspectives.

            • I agree with what you said except, I would change the word allow. Once God gave us freewill, we allow things to happen and God in her magnificence helps us with the good the bad and the ugly. My God would prefer it to all be wonderful but we humans make mistakes. Peace

          • While I usually ignore “anonymous” and that particular quilt square, this person makes sense.”

            If the sun shines on the just and the unjust alike, then the rain also falls on the just and unjust alike.

            If God were 100% in control, human beings would be automatons. I doubt we would even have feelings.

            God wants us to respond freely, out of love, out of awe, and reverence. We can only do that when we know what it looks like without God.

            When shaken out of apathy, humanity is capable of great goodness. I wrote the other day about people in my neighborhood throwing themselves into harm’s way to protect the babies in the daycare center when an armed thug leaped over the fence into the day care in an attempt to escape the police.

            I don’t believe for one second that God wills evil for anyone. God allows us to choose evil. It says in Genesis that the sin of one person has effects even as far down the line as the tenth generation. Since every generation chooses sin, the effects ripple throughout human history.

            If know joy, love, companionship etc, it is not because God allows harm. It is because we are created in the image and likeness of God. Joy, love, companionship, etc are experienced within the Trinity and so we too may experience these things.

            Hope this helps. May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts.

            • Gloriamarie I hit reply too soon, not realizing my name wasn’t already captured. As far as the rippling effect goes, it doesn’t end; we pretty much have an infinite number of constantly evolving interference patterns resulting throughout humanity as time goes on. “Evil” can bring about good and vice versa. There is simply too much entanglement to ever really call something a “sin” other than from a biblical perspective, which I know you have, which is fine. I totally respect that. Things just start breaking down when people try to justify “why” things happen and what God does and doesn’t “allow” which is my original point I guess. Anyway, thanks for engaging. Good day to you!

              <3

        • “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

          “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

          “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

          “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

          “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

          “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

    • Sadly, he does not believe in God. He does not believe the Bible. He just wants to advance the “progressive” agenda. He is so obsessed with homosexuals that I believe he is one. He only whines and offers nothing constructive. He trusts the Democratic party, not God. Yes, the party that thought crooked Hillary hung the moon. He thinks sin is no big deal. I’m not sure why anyone listens to him. He is pathetic.

      • “Several brothers went to Abba Antonios to relate to him certain visions which they beheld and to ascertain from him whether the visions were true or of demonic origin. They had along with them a small donkey which died on the way. Just as they reached Abba Antonios, he, expecting them, said: “How did the little donkey die on the road?”

        “How did you know this, Abba?” they said to him.

        “The demons revealed it to me.”

        “And they answered him: “It is for this reason that we came to see you, for fear of being deceived, since we see visions and many times they come true.”

        “Thus, with the foregoing example of the donkey, the elder made it known to them that their visions came forth from the demons.”

        • “Several brothers went to Abba Antonios to relate to him certain visions which they beheld and to ascertain from him whether the visions were true or of demonic origin. They had along with them a small donkey which died on the way. Just as they reached Abba Antonios, he, expecting them, said: “How did the little donkey die on the road?”

          “How did you know this, Abba?” they said to him.

          “The demons revealed it to me.”

          “And they answered him: “It is for this reason that we came to see you, for fear of being deceived, since we see visions and many times they come true.”

          “Thus, with the foregoing example of the donkey, the elder made it known to them that their visions came forth from the demons.”

          “Several brothers went to Abba Antonios to relate to him certain visions which they beheld and to ascertain from him whether the visions were true or of demonic origin. They had along with them a small donkey which died on the way. Just as they reached Abba Antonios, he, expecting them, said: “How did the little donkey die on the road?”

          “How did you know this, Abba?” they said to him.

          “The demons revealed it to me.”

          “And they answered him: “It is for this reason that we came to see you, for fear of being deceived, since we see visions and many times they come true.”

          “Thus, with the foregoing example of the donkey, the elder made it known to them that their visions came forth from the demons.”

          • “Several brothers went to Abba Antonios to relate to him certain visions which they beheld and to ascertain from him whether the visions were true or of demonic origin. They had along with them a small donkey which died on the way. Just as they reached Abba Antonios, he, expecting them, said: “How did the little donkey die on the road?”

            “How did you know this, Abba?” they said to him.

            “The demons revealed it to me.”

            “And they answered him: “It is for this reason that we came to see you, for fear of being deceived, since we see visions and many times they come true.”

            “Thus, with the foregoing example of the donkey, the elder made it known to them that their visions came forth from the demons.”

            “Several brothers went to Abba Antonios to relate to him certain visions which they beheld and to ascertain from him whether the visions were true or of demonic origin. They had along with them a small donkey which died on the way. Just as they reached Abba Antonios, he, expecting them, said: “How did the little donkey die on the road?”

            “How did you know this, Abba?” they said to him.

            “The demons revealed it to me.”

            “And they answered him: “It is for this reason that we came to see you, for fear of being deceived, since we see visions and many times they come true.”

            “Thus, with the foregoing example of the donkey, the elder made it known to them that their visions came forth from the demons.”

            • “Several brothers went to Abba Antonios to relate to him certain visions which they beheld and to ascertain from him whether the visions were true or of demonic origin. They had along with them a small donkey which died on the way. Just as they reached Abba Antonios, he, expecting them, said: “How did the little donkey die on the road?”

              “How did you know this, Abba?” they said to him.

              “The demons revealed it to me.”

              “And they answered him: “It is for this reason that we came to see you, for fear of being deceived, since we see visions and many times they come true.”

              “Thus, with the foregoing example of the donkey, the elder made it known to them that their visions came forth from the demons.”

              “Several brothers went to Abba Antonios to relate to him certain visions which they beheld and to ascertain from him whether the visions were true or of demonic origin. They had along with them a small donkey which died on the way. Just as they reached Abba Antonios, he, expecting them, said: “How did the little donkey die on the road?”

              “How did you know this, Abba?” they said to him.

              “The demons revealed it to me.”

              “And they answered him: “It is for this reason that we came to see you, for fear of being deceived, since we see visions and many times they come true.”

              “Thus, with the foregoing example of the donkey, the elder made it known to them that their visions came forth from the demons.”

              • x “On the road one day, a young monk met some nuns, who were going down to the city. He immediately changed his course, in order to avoid greeting them. Their superior then stopped him and said: “You did well, brother, for your weakness. If you were, however, a perfect monk, you would not have perceived that we are women.”


            • “A woman of sin once made up her mind, and wagered with her friends, that she could, without fail, succeed in leading into her nets a hermit, who lived on a mountain far from the city and about whom it was said by all that he was a holy man.

              “She wore a thick veil, which hid her attractiveness, and climbed the mountain. Her friends waited for her half-way up the road. As evening fell, she knocked at the door of the hermit’s cave. He was disturbed when he saw her: “How can it be that a woman would be found at such an hour in this wilderness?”

              “Ah, devil, this is one of your enticements,” he mused.

              “He asked her who she was and what she was looking for. She turned on the tears.

              “For hours on end I have been wandering in the wilderness, Father. I lost my way and my companions and I do not even know how I got here. But in the name of God, do not let the wild beasts eat me.”

              “The hermit found himself in a dilemma. Should he take a woman into his living quarters? No such thing had ever occurred to him. But, on the other hand, should he let a creature of God be eaten by wild beasts? That would be inhuman, almost criminal. Finally, sympathy got the better of him and he took her in. She then took off her veil, supposedly ingenuously, and showed him her charms. Temptation began to inflame the desires of the combatant, since the act was no longer impeded.

              “He threw a few dry leaves on the ground and told the woman to lie down, while he removed himself to the depths of the cave. He kneeled and prayed fervently.

              “Tonight,” he reflected, “I have to wage the toughest battle against the visible and invisible enemy, and either I shall be victorious, or I will waste all of my labors.”

              “As the night progressed, so much more the flame of his desire burned him. For one moment he felt his resistance yield and he was terrified.

              “Those who defile their bodies with sinful acts go to hell,” he said almost screaming. “And now to test to see if you will endure in the torturing fire.”

              “He lighted his oil lamp and put his finger in the flame. But the other flame which burned his flesh was stronger and did not let him feel pain from the burn. Since his first finger had become useless, he put his second finger into the flame of the oil lamp, and then the third. By the time morning came, he had burned the five fingers of his hand.

              “That vile woman followed the superhuman struggle of the servant of God from a hidden vantage point and, seeing him obstinately burn all of his fingers, one after the other, was so shaken that she dropped dead of her terror.

              “Her friends, in the meantime, made a surprise incursion on the elder’s cave in order to get a laugh at his expense. However, they found him outside in prayer.

              “Did a woman perhaps show up here last evening?” they asked him.

              “She is inside sleeping,” he answered them.

              “They went in and found her dead.

              “He then uncovered his hand and showed them his fingers.

              “Do you see here what the daughter of the devil did to me?”

              “The commandment of Christ, however, commands me to return good for evil.”

              “He stood up and prayed over her soulless body and brought it back to life.”

          • “When wicked thoughts war with me,” Abba John the Short said, “I do what a wayfarer would do if he were walking in the wilderness and suddenly saw a wild beast pursuing him: find a tree and climb up to the top to be saved. And so I flee to God with prayer and escape from the attack of wicked thoughts.”


      • Why are you here reading this? God gave us free will. We make these choices not God. That fact is all throughout the Bible. It is unfortunate that you choose to use God to comment such mean sentiments. I am sure that he is not pleased with that. Did you miss the part in the Bible about love?

      • There are many definitions of insanity, which we’ve all heard. But I’d like to add one: thinking you know what is true for anyone other than yourself. Hell, maybe even thinking you know what is true period. The point is, the only true statements you can even attempt to make, are statements that begin with “I”. Thinking you know what anyone else believes or wishes or feels, especially someone you only know through the tiniest sliver of his entire life, is absurd. AND impossible. So if you want to point out your disagreements with someone, base it on your own beliefs. And then remember beliefs aren’t facts either.

      • John, the first part of your statement sounds like something the religious leaders may have said about Jesus over 2000 years ago. They thought He was of the devil and not of God. They thought He “obsessed” over sinners to the point that He must be one. I am not putting John P in the same category of Jesus no more than all Christians should be in the same category of Jesus. But be careful that you don’t put yourself in the same category of the enemies of Jesus by making the same criticisms of Christians the Pharisees made of Christ

        • I agree Cille. Focusing too much on the evil vs good divide blinds us all to our own shaky relationship with good and evil. We must balance what we know about someone with grace so that we don’t demonize them. Trump is a bad President–whether he is evil incarnate or Gods chosen is not a stand I want to take. He is a human being with potential–currently we can see where his horrible policies are headed. There are many conservative Christians who oppose him– like my mom for example. So it’s not all liberals who are against Trump. I pray the damage he does is lessened and people keep themselves from hate and violence.

        • … so far no regretful Trump voters have commented yet?

          ‘If you’re regretting your Trump vote, Now is the time to be loud.’ — John P.

          • “If our prayer is not in harmony with our deeds, we labor in vain,” Abba Moses often told the young monks.

            “How are we to accomplish such harmony?” they asked him one day.

            “When we make that which we seek fitting to our prayer,” explained the saint. “Only then can the soul be reconciled with its Creator and its prayer be acceptable, when it sets aside all of its own evil intentions.”

            • “If our prayer is not in harmony with our deeds, we labor in vain,” Abba Moses often told the young monks.

              “How are we to accomplish such harmony?” they asked him one day.

              “When we make that which we seek fitting to our prayer,” explained the saint. “Only then can the soul be reconciled with its Creator and its prayer be acceptable, when it sets aside all of its own evil intentions.”

              “If our prayer is not in harmony with our deeds, we labor in vain,” Abba Moses often told the young monks.

              “How are we to accomplish such harmony?” they asked him one day.

              “When we make that which we seek fitting to our prayer,” explained the saint. “Only then can the soul be reconciled with its Creator and its prayer be acceptable, when it sets aside all of its own evil intentions.”

              “If our prayer is not in harmony with our deeds, we labor in vain,” Abba Moses often told the young monks.

              “How are we to accomplish such harmony?” they asked him one day.

              “When we make that which we seek fitting to our prayer,” explained the saint. “Only then can the soul be reconciled with its Creator and its prayer be acceptable, when it sets aside all of its own evil intentions.”

              • “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

                “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

                “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

                “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

                “A young monk sadly said the following to the holy Poimen: “My body, Abba, has been weakened by ascetic practices, but my passions do not yield.”

                “The passions, my child,” answered the wise Father, “are similar to tough thorns; in uprooting them, your hands of necessity bleed.”

              • “A monk of our day said: “One commandment could cure the ills of those who cause turmoil in the Church today: ‘judge no one.’ This should be the motto of those who hold firm to Orthodox tradition.”


    • “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

      “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

      • “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

        “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

        “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

        “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

        “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

        “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

        • “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

          “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

          “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

          “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

          “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

          “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

          • If we do this enough, the trolls will get frustrated by having to page through all these copy and pastes that they won’t come back and bother us anymore. Thank you for leading the charge Gloriamarie!

            “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

            “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

            “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

            “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

            “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

            “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

            • If we do this enough, the trolls will get frustrated by having to page through all these copy and pastes that they won’t come back and bother us anymore. Thank you for leading the charge Gloriamarie!

              “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

              “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

              “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

              “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

              “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

              “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

              • If we do this enough, the trolls will get frustrated by having to page through all these copy and pastes that they won’t come back and bother us anymore. Thank you for leading the charge Gloriamarie!

                “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

                “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

                “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

                “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

                “Why do the demons tremble before you, Abba?” a young monk asked Saint Isidore the Pelusian.

                “Because, since the time I became a monk, I have not let any enjoyable thing enter my throat.”

    • Ha! Trump is such a good non-lying christian! Thanks for the laugh William Roberts: Let’s start with: Nehemiah 5:10 Trump is one big lirer -Deuteronomy 12:17 You must not eat in your own towns the tithe of your grain and new wine and olive oil, or the firstborn of your herds and flocks, or whatever you have vowed to give, or your freewill offerings or special gifts.

    • William, I’m with you! John has President Trump on the BRAIN with all capital letters! He is quite stupid in his writings, and sadly, many of his surrogates are as equally stupid. I think what John is doing is trying to gain a few more members in his church by attacking the President, embracing the perversion of homosexuality, and marching with the stupid women that had Madonna as their spokesperson. I can honestly say that I haven’t heard a peak from Trump supporters that would even remotely suggest that they regret voting for him. What an asinine statement for John to suggest.

      • “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

        “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

        • “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

          “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

          “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

          “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

          “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

          “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

          • “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

            “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

            “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

            “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

            “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

            “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

            • “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

              “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

              “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

              “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

              “What am I to do, Abba, since passions and demons beset me?” a young monk asked the holy Sisoes.

              “Do not say that you are bothered by demons, child,” answered the elder, “because the greater part of us are beset by our own evil desires.”

      • Thank you Wayne! It appears that most of the people who follow John Pavolvitz are poorly educated, bloviating wieners just like he appears to be based on some of the bombastic things he posts. If God isn’t in control then who the hell do they think is? Certainly anyone who thinks they are must be crowned for the most arrogant individual around. If the devil is in control then where does that leave God.. in 2nd position? Or do all these “activists” somehow foolishly believe that the politicians are in control? Or must I be left to believe that pop stars like Madana who slept her way to stardom and continues to speak like a low class whore is now speaking for all these foolish sycophants? Has everyone forgotten the Prodigal Son? Free will gives us all the right to do whatever damm stupid, selfish, arrogant proud, lusty, dangerous, greedy thing we want… however there are consequences for our choices. “As you sew, so shall you reap.” It’s when we loose faith in the fact that God is ALWAYS in control we start to think we need to go around picking up the pieces WE feel HE overlooked! No! Our business is to serve Him nicely knowing that He can do what our feeble efforts by comparison can never accomplish.

        • “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


          • “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


            “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


            “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


            • “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


              “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


              “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


              • “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


                “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


                “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


    • “While still a neophyte in monastic life, Moses the Black (the Ethiopian) was warring against carnal desire. So he went, in a state of turbulence, to confess to Abba Isidoros.

      “The elder listened to him sympathetically and, when he had given him words of appropriate counsel, told him to return to his cell. However, inasmuch as Abba Moses was still hesitant, for fear of the flame of evil desires rekindling during his return, Abba Isidoros took him by the hand and led him to a small roof atop his cell.

      “Look here,” he told him, directing him towards the West. Thereupon Moses saw an entire army of wicked spirits with drawn bows, ready for warfare, and was terrified.

      “Look towards the East now,” the elder told him once more. Myriads of angels in military formation were standing ready to confront the enemy.

      “All of these,” Abba Isidoros told him, “are assigned by God to help the struggler. Do you see how our defenders are many more and incomparably stronger than our enemies?”

      “Moses thanked God with his heart for this revelation and, taking courage, returned to his cell to continue his struggle.”

      • “While still a neophyte in monastic life, Moses the Black (the Ethiopian) was warring against carnal desire. So he went, in a state of turbulence, to confess to Abba Isidoros.

        “The elder listened to him sympathetically and, when he had given him words of appropriate counsel, told him to return to his cell. However, inasmuch as Abba Moses was still hesitant, for fear of the flame of evil desires rekindling during his return, Abba Isidoros took him by the hand and led him to a small roof atop his cell.

        “Look here,” he told him, directing him towards the West. Thereupon Moses saw an entire army of wicked spirits with drawn bows, ready for warfare, and was terrified.

        “Look towards the East now,” the elder told him once more. Myriads of angels in military formation were standing ready to confront the enemy.

        “All of these,” Abba Isidoros told him, “are assigned by God to help the struggler. Do you see how our defenders are many more and incomparably stronger than our enemies?”

        “Moses thanked God with his heart for this revelation and, taking courage, returned to his cell to continue his struggle.”

        • “While still a neophyte in monastic life, Moses the Black (the Ethiopian) was warring against carnal desire. So he went, in a state of turbulence, to confess to Abba Isidoros.

          “The elder listened to him sympathetically and, when he had given him words of appropriate counsel, told him to return to his cell. However, inasmuch as Abba Moses was still hesitant, for fear of the flame of evil desires rekindling during his return, Abba Isidoros took him by the hand and led him to a small roof atop his cell.

          “Look here,” he told him, directing him towards the West. Thereupon Moses saw an entire army of wicked spirits with drawn bows, ready for warfare, and was terrified.

          “Look towards the East now,” the elder told him once more. Myriads of angels in military formation were standing ready to confront the enemy.

          “All of these,” Abba Isidoros told him, “are assigned by God to help the struggler. Do you see how our defenders are many more and incomparably stronger than our enemies?”

          “Moses thanked God with his heart for this revelation and, taking courage, returned to his cell to continue his struggle.”

          • “While still a neophyte in monastic life, Moses the Black (the Ethiopian) was warring against carnal desire. So he went, in a state of turbulence, to confess to Abba Isidoros.

            “The elder listened to him sympathetically and, when he had given him words of appropriate counsel, told him to return to his cell. However, inasmuch as Abba Moses was still hesitant, for fear of the flame of evil desires rekindling during his return, Abba Isidoros took him by the hand and led him to a small roof atop his cell.

            “Look here,” he told him, directing him towards the West. Thereupon Moses saw an entire army of wicked spirits with drawn bows, ready for warfare, and was terrified.

            “Look towards the East now,” the elder told him once more. Myriads of angels in military formation were standing ready to confront the enemy.

            “All of these,” Abba Isidoros told him, “are assigned by God to help the struggler. Do you see how our defenders are many more and incomparably stronger than our enemies?”

            “Moses thanked God with his heart for this revelation and, taking courage, returned to his cell to continue his struggle.”

            • “While still a neophyte in monastic life, Moses the Black (the Ethiopian) was warring against carnal desire. So he went, in a state of turbulence, to confess to Abba Isidoros.

              “The elder listened to him sympathetically and, when he had given him words of appropriate counsel, told him to return to his cell. However, inasmuch as Abba Moses was still hesitant, for fear of the flame of evil desires rekindling during his return, Abba Isidoros took him by the hand and led him to a small roof atop his cell.

              “Look here,” he told him, directing him towards the West. Thereupon Moses saw an entire army of wicked spirits with drawn bows, ready for warfare, and was terrified.

              “Look towards the East now,” the elder told him once more. Myriads of angels in military formation were standing ready to confront the enemy.

              “All of these,” Abba Isidoros told him, “are assigned by God to help the struggler. Do you see how our defenders are many more and incomparably stronger than our enemies?”

              “Moses thanked God with his heart for this revelation and, taking courage, returned to his cell to continue his struggle.”

    • Are you saying that Trump is God’s fault? That would mean that God made a mistake. Or, if you are saying that God put Trump into the office of President, and it was not a mistake, that would mean that God has changed his mind about good and evil — or God is trying to punish us for our worship of those who place wealth above all else, by giving us one of them as our leader. Which option are you trying to sell to us?

    • William, I am going to say something that I intend to keep repeating for as long as I need to. People like you are going to be in for a big surprise come Judgement Day – you’re going to find out that you don’t stand nearly as high in the Lord’s estimation as you like to flatter yourselves. John Pavlovitz, on the other hand, stands very high indeed.

      • “Abba Markos once asked the holy Arsenios why it is that the most pious and virtuous people pass through the world with numerous sorrows and in privation.

        “Sorrows, for those who accept them with forbearance,” the holy one answered, “are the salt which prevents putrefaction by sins and allows the soul to approach heaven cleansed.”

        • “Abba Markos once asked the holy Arsenios why it is that the most pious and virtuous people pass through the world with numerous sorrows and in privation.

          “Sorrows, for those who accept them with forbearance,” the holy one answered, “are the salt which prevents putrefaction by sins and allows the soul to approach heaven cleansed.”

          • “Abba Markos once asked the holy Arsenios why it is that the most pious and virtuous people pass through the world with numerous sorrows and in privation.

            “Sorrows, for those who accept them with forbearance,” the holy one answered, “are the salt which prevents putrefaction by sins and allows the soul to approach heaven cleansed.”

            “Abba Markos once asked the holy Arsenios why it is that the most pious and virtuous people pass through the world with numerous sorrows and in privation.

            “Sorrows, for those who accept them with forbearance,” the holy one answered, “are the salt which prevents putrefaction by sins and allows the soul to approach heaven cleansed.”

      • Susan. None of God’s Children stand ‘high’ on Judgment Day. [That’s opposite of what our attitude is.] We are undeserving. Jesus is our substitute on Judgment Day. Jesus stands ‘high’, not me.

        • “In the present time, a struggling Father went to a bishop of discernment and told him of a spiritual problem. It seems that the Father was so struck by spiritual words and Divine Services that he could not control the flow of tears from his eyes. Embarrassed by this phenomenon when it took place in the presence of others, the monk found it increasingly difficult to participate in public worship.

          “The wise bishop advised the Father that he was suffering from hidden pride and that the most efficacious tears spiritually were those hidden within the heart. The Father wrestled endlessly with the secret pride within him, sincerely asking for God’s help, and his tears began to subside.”

          • “In the present time, a struggling Father went to a bishop of discernment and told him of a spiritual problem. It seems that the Father was so struck by spiritual words and Divine Services that he could not control the flow of tears from his eyes. Embarrassed by this phenomenon when it took place in the presence of others, the monk found it increasingly difficult to participate in public worship.

            “The wise bishop advised the Father that he was suffering from hidden pride and that the most efficacious tears spiritually were those hidden within the heart. The Father wrestled endlessly with the secret pride within him, sincerely asking for God’s help, and his tears began to subside.”

            • “In the present time, a struggling Father went to a bishop of discernment and told him of a spiritual problem. It seems that the Father was so struck by spiritual words and Divine Services that he could not control the flow of tears from his eyes. Embarrassed by this phenomenon when it took place in the presence of others, the monk found it increasingly difficult to participate in public worship.

              “The wise bishop advised the Father that he was suffering from hidden pride and that the most efficacious tears spiritually were those hidden within the heart. The Father wrestled endlessly with the secret pride within him, sincerely asking for God’s help, and his tears began to subside.”

              • “In the present time, a struggling Father went to a bishop of discernment and told him of a spiritual problem. It seems that the Father was so struck by spiritual words and Divine Services that he could not control the flow of tears from his eyes. Embarrassed by this phenomenon when it took place in the presence of others, the monk found it increasingly difficult to participate in public worship.

                “The wise bishop advised the Father that he was suffering from hidden pride and that the most efficacious tears spiritually were those hidden within the heart. The Father wrestled endlessly with the secret pride within him, sincerely asking for God’s help, and his tears began to subside.”

      • Susan, Thanks for your OPINION… but so far that is ALL it is. So because I prefer not to be as bombastic as others are about decrying Trump you somehow think I will burn in hell forever? That alone makes you sound like either a very immature individual, or remarkably ignorant. That’s what you appear to be when you can’t Support what you say with at least something more then just your own bigoted political sentiments.

        • “A certain industrious monk, who struggled for virtue with all of his powers, once weakened and fell into laziness. However, he quickly recovered and said to himself: “You poor man. Since when do you scorn your salvation? Do you not fear death and judgment?” With such thoughts, he became more eager in God’s work.

          “One day, while he was praying, wicked spirits gathered around him and tried hard to distract him from his prayer.

          “Why are you tormenting me?” the brother said with exasperation. “Was it not enough that you pulled me down into sloth so many times?”

          
“When you were lazy, you did not give us the slightest trouble,” the demons answered with malice, “and we ignored you. Now that you oppose us, we battle you.”

          “When the brother heard these things, he pushed himself all the more in spiritual struggle and, with the grace of God, progressed in virtue.”


          • “A certain industrious monk, who struggled for virtue with all of his powers, once weakened and fell into laziness. However, he quickly recovered and said to himself: “You poor man. Since when do you scorn your salvation? Do you not fear death and judgment?” With such thoughts, he became more eager in God’s work.

            “One day, while he was praying, wicked spirits gathered around him and tried hard to distract him from his prayer.

            “Why are you tormenting me?” the brother said with exasperation. “Was it not enough that you pulled me down into sloth so many times?”

            
“When you were lazy, you did not give us the slightest trouble,” the demons answered with malice, “and we ignored you. Now that you oppose us, we battle you.”

            “When the brother heard these things, he pushed himself all the more in spiritual struggle and, with the grace of God, progressed in virtue.”


            • “A certain industrious monk, who struggled for virtue with all of his powers, once weakened and fell into laziness. However, he quickly recovered and said to himself: “You poor man. Since when do you scorn your salvation? Do you not fear death and judgment?” With such thoughts, he became more eager in God’s work.

              “One day, while he was praying, wicked spirits gathered around him and tried hard to distract him from his prayer.

              “Why are you tormenting me?” the brother said with exasperation. “Was it not enough that you pulled me down into sloth so many times?”

              
“When you were lazy, you did not give us the slightest trouble,” the demons answered with malice, “and we ignored you. Now that you oppose us, we battle you.”

              “When the brother heard these things, he pushed himself all the more in spiritual struggle and, with the grace of God, progressed in virtue.”


              • “A certain industrious monk, who struggled for virtue with all of his powers, once weakened and fell into laziness. However, he quickly recovered and said to himself: “You poor man. Since when do you scorn your salvation? Do you not fear death and judgment?” With such thoughts, he became more eager in God’s work.

                “One day, while he was praying, wicked spirits gathered around him and tried hard to distract him from his prayer.

                “Why are you tormenting me?” the brother said with exasperation. “Was it not enough that you pulled me down into sloth so many times?”

                
“When you were lazy, you did not give us the slightest trouble,” the demons answered with malice, “and we ignored you. Now that you oppose us, we battle you.”

                “When the brother heard these things, he pushed himself all the more in spiritual struggle and, with the grace of God, progressed in virtue.”


                • “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


                  “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


                  “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


                  • “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


                    “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


                    “God requires these three things, which were bestowed in Holy Baptism, from every man: correct belief in his soul, truth on his tongue, and moderation in his body.”


    • Dear william roberts:

      The Gospel is a kingdom proclamation. Isn’t that political? In fact, wasn’t the word ‘gospel’ [euangellion] in its original meaning, political?

      Moreover, wasn’t the term ‘evangelist’ in its original meaning, political?

      Isn’t the apocalypse of Jesus Christ a kingdom of God critique/manifesto against the earthly authority/power/blasphemy/ideology/idolatry/injustice/extortion/oppression/militarism/propaganda system that was called ‘Rome?’

      Perhaps your lack of concern for the intersection of faith and public discourse indicates an absence of concern for the incarnation by which the King of Creation lived and walked among us.

      Also, I wonder if your handling of Yahweh’s Providence might proceed from some species of fatalism.

      Blessings!

      • Gdd?
        Glorifying God, Teaching about God, Serving God, & always Remembering God are NOT political but the highest form of worship. Wasting time lamenting who the current politician is for a few years in a very small portion of God’s creation is a diversion and rather petty if one realizes that not a blade of grass moves without the sanction of the Supreme Lord!

        • “A brother, who pointlessly passed his time neglecting his salvation, once went down to the city to sell his baskets. Evening fell while he was on his way, however, and so as not to be in danger in the dark night, he found improvised lodging in an old tomb. He lay down to rest and when, out of sleepiness, he was finally closing his eyes, he saw opposite him two demons scrutinizing him.

          “Fancy that! Look there-that monk had the nerve to lie down on a grave,” one of them said. “Let us vex him so that he has to leave our habitation.”

          “Let us not waste our time with him,” the other demon answered contemptuously. “He belongs to us. He eats, drinks, gossips, neglects his duties, and serves us in almost all ways. Let us go tempt those who battle us day and night with their prayer and asceticism.”

          “The brother, seeing that even the demons disregarded him, took control and became a good monk.”

          • “A brother, who pointlessly passed his time neglecting his salvation, once went down to the city to sell his baskets. Evening fell while he was on his way, however, and so as not to be in danger in the dark night, he found improvised lodging in an old tomb. He lay down to rest and when, out of sleepiness, he was finally closing his eyes, he saw opposite him two demons scrutinizing him.

            “Fancy that! Look there-that monk had the nerve to lie down on a grave,” one of them said. “Let us vex him so that he has to leave our habitation.”

            “Let us not waste our time with him,” the other demon answered contemptuously. “He belongs to us. He eats, drinks, gossips, neglects his duties, and serves us in almost all ways. Let us go tempt those who battle us day and night with their prayer and asceticism.”

            “The brother, seeing that even the demons disregarded him, took control and became a good monk.”

            • “A brother, who pointlessly passed his time neglecting his salvation, once went down to the city to sell his baskets. Evening fell while he was on his way, however, and so as not to be in danger in the dark night, he found improvised lodging in an old tomb. He lay down to rest and when, out of sleepiness, he was finally closing his eyes, he saw opposite him two demons scrutinizing him.

              “Fancy that! Look there-that monk had the nerve to lie down on a grave,” one of them said. “Let us vex him so that he has to leave our habitation.”

              “Let us not waste our time with him,” the other demon answered contemptuously. “He belongs to us. He eats, drinks, gossips, neglects his duties, and serves us in almost all ways. Let us go tempt those who battle us day and night with their prayer and asceticism.”

              “The brother, seeing that even the demons disregarded him, took control and became a good monk.”

              • “A brother, who pointlessly passed his time neglecting his salvation, once went down to the city to sell his baskets. Evening fell while he was on his way, however, and so as not to be in danger in the dark night, he found improvised lodging in an old tomb. He lay down to rest and when, out of sleepiness, he was finally closing his eyes, he saw opposite him two demons scrutinizing him.

                “Fancy that! Look there-that monk had the nerve to lie down on a grave,” one of them said. “Let us vex him so that he has to leave our habitation.”

                “Let us not waste our time with him,” the other demon answered contemptuously. “He belongs to us. He eats, drinks, gossips, neglects his duties, and serves us in almost all ways. Let us go tempt those who battle us day and night with their prayer and asceticism.”

                “The brother, seeing that even the demons disregarded him, took control and became a good monk.”

        • Dear william roberts:

          Forgive me, but you have completely missed the point.

          The gospel is profoundly political. But it is a depth politics which transcends earthly politics. It is a way of seeing the world and speaking to the world from the perspective of the resurrection and what that means for eternity.

          I suppose that the meaning of those words eludes you. It’s pretty foreign to your perspective. Still, you offer good, ‘reformed’ doctrine. I’m not going to argue with that.

          PS: You don’t find me spending much time lamenting politicians. I’ve pretty much written off the lot of them, don’t vote, have never sat on a jury in my life.

          Blessings!

          PS: God is King of Creation. Still sounds substantially political to me …

    • There are more then 2 options. No offense I just thought I would point it out since we keep forgetting we have a choice more then what a toddler is allowed. Even though it seems like we don’t most of the time.

    • Wow. I was hoping for a more enlightened answer from a Trump supporter. Truly. This is not sarcasm. I need an actual answer regarding the silence that has occurred since Trump took office. Here is why I am entitled to one:

      I am a committed Independent. I believe the two-party system is established to control the masses – divide and conquer. When the country votes across blue/red lines, individuals rarely put in the hard work of understanding the issues. I vote issues, not party. I was and remain a devout Sanders supporter. I would happily have voted for someone else as long as they shared his agenda. Again, it is about issues for me, not the party nor the person. In November, I found myself in the highly uncomfortable position of having to “throw my vote away” (write in Sanders or vote Green) or yet again allow my country to tell me that in a land of 300 million I would once more be forced to vote the lesser of two evils. Sick. To. Death. Of. That. Nonetheless, one must vote. So I held my nose and voted for #her.

      Why should this matter to a Trump supporter? Perhaps I have given the human race too much credit, but I suspected all along that there were a lot of Trump voters who didn’t really want to vote for him. I had the image of someone who had been a Republican since they could vote, someone who didn’t like Democrats but especially not that Democrat. I imagined a group of Republicans as shocked as the rest of us that Trump got the nomination, but there he was…the Republican candidate. So I imagined you did what I did and held your nose and cast your vote.

      I assure you if Clinton were President today, I (and probably a whole lot of other Sanders supporters) would be one of her greatest and loudest critics. The amount of energy I am bringing against Trump would pale in comparison to what I would bring against her. Why? Because I was forced to vote for her and that makes me responsible. If she fought for a dime less than a $15/hour minimum wage, I would be screaming liar! If she went back on her word regarding affordable and/or free higher education, if she lied about moving ACA forward towards a Medicare for all style then I would be her loudest and most visible opponent.

      So…where are the Trump voters? No opinions on his super swampy cabinet picks? His clear ties to Russia? His embarrassing and juvenile behavior exhibited on Twitter? No opinions regarding anything he has done? Nothing? Either you are too embarrassed to speak up or I have greatly overestimated where the human race is in its evolution.

      • Tami, thank you so much for this, and – exactly. I was also a Bernie supporter, and also felt forced to vote for Hillary. I did however vote gladly for Obama, and yes, there were definitely times I disagreed with him and said so. Blind loyalty, on either side, scares me and like you say makes me lose some faith in the human race. As you say so many times it feels like party over country, or over the interests of the world in general. I don’t care if someone is a democrat or republican, if there is real evidence of ties to Russian collusion (so much so that multiple intelligence agencies are investigating), then he or she should be held accountable. If there was that much evidence against a Republican, I’d say the same. It also seems like there is a fair amount of blind loyalty to Hillary, though, like Axelrod says, no one forced her to take Wisconsin for granted. Fairness, on both sides, might go a ways towards loosening judgments, and hopefully also opening hearts.

        • I meant as much evidence against a Democrat – Republican, democrat, independent, whatever. Dismissing potential Russian collusion, as well as pretty stark conflicts of interest should be of real concern to all Americans.

    • I get that God is sovereign. And, yes, He is in control. And, yes, Trump could not have won if God hadn’t willed it to be so.

      What I don’t understand is your assumption that Trump’s election is a reflection of God’s grace and mercy. How do you know that it is not a reflection of God’s judgement? What if we have a chance now to pray, seek His face, and repent in order to stay His hand like the people of Nineva did? But, instead, you would have us do nothing and suffer the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. God’s sovereignty does not absolve us of the responsibility to do the right thing.

  3. Thank you for going where everyone else is afraid to go. I would add that all of a sudden there are a lot of people who say they didn’t vote so they are not responsible. Newsflash, that doesn’t cut it either. That makes them as culpable as those who voted for this man. By the way it is getting harder and harder to find those who will admit they voted for him. Interesting…………… Peace

    • Something I would add is that everyone who voted for a third party candidate also needs to see the evil consequences of that choice.

      May the Holy Spirit dance in our hearts

    • Kathleen, I didn’t vote in the last election, but had I voted, it would have been for Donald Trump! All of you ole Hilly supporters are sore losers, and you can’t even sleep at night cause the witch got spanked good! America rejected her soundly, and we didn’t want Slick Willie to be able to sleep in the Lincoln room ever again, and he won’t!

      • “Abba John the Short, advising the young brothers to love fasting, told them frequently: “The good soldier, undertaking to capture a strongly fortified, enemy city, blockades food and water. In this way the resistance of the enemy is weakened and he finally surrenders. Something similar happens with carnal impulses, which severely war against a person in his youth. Blessed fasting subdues the passions and the demons and ultimately removes them far from the combatant.”

        “And the powerful lion,” he told them another time, “frequently falls into a snare because of his gluttony, and all of his strength and might disappear.”


        • “Abba John the Short, advising the young brothers to love fasting, told them frequently: “The good soldier, undertaking to capture a strongly fortified, enemy city, blockades food and water. In this way the resistance of the enemy is weakened and he finally surrenders. Something similar happens with carnal impulses, which severely war against a person in his youth. Blessed fasting subdues the passions and the demons and ultimately removes them far from the combatant.”

          “And the powerful lion,” he told them another time, “frequently falls into a snare because of his gluttony, and all of his strength and might disappear.”


          • “Abba John the Short, advising the young brothers to love fasting, told them frequently: “The good soldier, undertaking to capture a strongly fortified, enemy city, blockades food and water. In this way the resistance of the enemy is weakened and he finally surrenders. Something similar happens with carnal impulses, which severely war against a person in his youth. Blessed fasting subdues the passions and the demons and ultimately removes them far from the combatant.”

            “And the powerful lion,” he told them another time, “frequently falls into a snare because of his gluttony, and all of his strength and might disappear.”


            “Abba John the Short, advising the young brothers to love fasting, told them frequently: “The good soldier, undertaking to capture a strongly fortified, enemy city, blockades food and water. In this way the resistance of the enemy is weakened and he finally surrenders. Something similar happens with carnal impulses, which severely war against a person in his youth. Blessed fasting subdues the passions and the demons and ultimately removes them far from the combatant.”

            “And the powerful lion,” he told them another time, “frequently falls into a snare because of his gluttony, and all of his strength and might disappear.”


            • “Abba John the Short, advising the young brothers to love fasting, told them frequently: “The good soldier, undertaking to capture a strongly fortified, enemy city, blockades food and water. In this way the resistance of the enemy is weakened and he finally surrenders. Something similar happens with carnal impulses, which severely war against a person in his youth. Blessed fasting subdues the passions and the demons and ultimately removes them far from the combatant.”

              “And the powerful lion,” he told them another time, “frequently falls into a snare because of his gluttony, and all of his strength and might disappear.”


              “Abba John the Short, advising the young brothers to love fasting, told them frequently: “The good soldier, undertaking to capture a strongly fortified, enemy city, blockades food and water. In this way the resistance of the enemy is weakened and he finally surrenders. Something similar happens with carnal impulses, which severely war against a person in his youth. Blessed fasting subdues the passions and the demons and ultimately removes them far from the combatant.”

              “And the powerful lion,” he told them another time, “frequently falls into a snare because of his gluttony, and all of his strength and might disappear.”


        • No, I’m too old to think that taking away peoples healthcare and taking away their safety net is somehow a joke. Don’t get it and am proud that I don’t get it. If that was supposed to make me angry, it didn’t, it made me sad and feel there is another person who needs a lot of help and prayer. I hope he gets it before everything he values is gone. Peace……………………..

          • Health care is something you buy. No one can take it away from you once you bought it. If you’re talking about ‘free’ health care for the destitute… no one is ‘taking’ that away. We will always have a safety net (rightly so) for destitute.

            • “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

              • “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                • “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                  “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                  “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                  • GO AWAY TROLLS

                    “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                    “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

                    “Come, my child, and taste of the blessed life of obedience,” Abba Moses told a young man who was ready to follow the monastic life. “In this life, you will find humility, strength, joy, patience, and forbearance. Within it, contrition is born and love blossoms. It aids the good monastic disciple to keep all of the divine commandments throughout his life.”

        • Uh yeah. I thought this was written by someone in the 3rd grade. But interesting isn’t it that he claims success for a Trump win even though he didn’t vote. I wonder if he realizes how stupid this sounds?

          • In my opinion, those who did not vote are just as responsible for the evil as are those who voted GOP or for a third party.

              • What a ridiculous statement, gdd, and I say that with respect. Not to vote is irresponsible and leads to
                “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
                Because I was not a Socialist.

                Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
                Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

                Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
                Because I was not a Jew.

                Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

                And quite possibly one of the most qualified person to run for the Presidency in a long time lost and now we have this guy and we alreasy see how badly that’s working out.

                • Gloriamarie Amalfitano:
                  “quite possibly one of the most qualified person to run for the Presidency in a long time lost”
                  Just what evidence can you whip up to support this remarkably foolish thing to say? Were you completely unaware of the fact that Clinton is one of the most distrusted and disliked politicians in a long time? Oh… by the way… she did loose for that reason too! Grow up and get your head out of the sand!
                  http://www.liberalforum.org/index.php?/topic/190338-clinton-is-among-the-most-disliked-and-distrusted-candidates/

                  • “Saint Athanasios, when he found himself on the patriarchal throne of Alexandria, called Abba Pambo to go to the city on an ecclesiastical matter. The first person that the holy man met, on passing through the walls of the large city, was a woman dressed up so as to ensnare her victims. Seeing her, the elder became tearful.

                    “Why are you crying, Father?” the brother who was accompanying him asked.

                    “For two reasons,” the elder answered, sighing. “First of all, for the loss of her soul, and then because I do not take as much care to please my Lord as she does to please licentious men.”

                    • “Saint Athanasios, when he found himself on the patriarchal throne of Alexandria, called Abba Pambo to go to the city on an ecclesiastical matter. The first person that the holy man met, on passing through the walls of the large city, was a woman dressed up so as to ensnare her victims. Seeing her, the elder became tearful.

                      “Why are you crying, Father?” the brother who was accompanying him asked.

                      “For two reasons,” the elder answered, sighing. “First of all, for the loss of her soul, and then because I do not take as much care to please my Lord as she does to please licentious men.”

                      “Saint Athanasios, when he found himself on the patriarchal throne of Alexandria, called Abba Pambo to go to the city on an ecclesiastical matter. The first person that the holy man met, on passing through the walls of the large city, was a woman dressed up so as to ensnare her victims. Seeing her, the elder became tearful.

                      “Why are you crying, Father?” the brother who was accompanying him asked.

                      “For two reasons,” the elder answered, sighing. “First of all, for the loss of her soul, and then because I do not take as much care to please my Lord as she does to please licentious men.”

                      “Saint Athanasios, when he found himself on the patriarchal throne of Alexandria, called Abba Pambo to go to the city on an ecclesiastical matter. The first person that the holy man met, on passing through the walls of the large city, was a woman dressed up so as to ensnare her victims. Seeing her, the elder became tearful.

                      “Why are you crying, Father?” the brother who was accompanying him asked.

                      “For two reasons,” the elder answered, sighing. “First of all, for the loss of her soul, and then because I do not take as much care to please my Lord as she does to please licentious men.”

                  • Dear william roberts:

                    Are you the same william roberts who only 8 minutes before the antecedent post said:

                    ‘Wasting time lamenting who the current politician is for a few years in a very small portion of God’s creation is a diversion and rather petty…’

                    http://tinyurl.com/hwexscg

                    It seems that your practice of piety undergoes significant transformation when Hillary Clinton is mentioned. Why IS that?

                    Blessings!

                • Dear Gloriamarie Amalfitano:

                  Know what’s funny, girl?

                  Trotsky was a socialist, addressed trade unions, and was a Jew.

                  And that was Trotsky’s statement.

                  Blessings!

                    • Dear Gloriamarie Amalfitano:

                      It was Leon Trotsky, socialist and Jew, who said that in the absence of an acceptable candidate, it is imperative to refuse to vote.

                      Blessings!

              • Voting is not mandatory. And you ‘voted’ your conscience. How could one cast a vote for somthing they disagree with? Hopefully next time there will someone you can support.

                • “The fathers relate to us that, besides other divine gifts, there was also bestowed by God upon Saint Euthymios the following: to perceive, from the external appearance, the internal activities of the souls of people, as though seeing them in mirror images; and to know in detail the thoughts with which each one battled, and, indeed, which among these thoughts he was defeating and by which, through the operation of the devil, he was being defeated.

                  “It is further said of him that sometimes he confided to certain brothers, who went to visit him on their own, that many times he would see angels plainly in front of him, liturgizing and drawing near the Holy Gifts. At the time of the communion of the Master’s Body, he saw some of the communicants as though they were shining, while others darkened in appearance – namely those who were not worthy of that light and of the brightness of Holy Communion.

                  “Thus taking the occasion of these supernatural visions, he warned the brothers against participation in the communion of the Divine Gifts without proper preparation, and counseled them excellently, relying on the Apostle, saying that every Christian should take care to examine himself with exactness to see if he is worthy, thereby, of communicating the Holy Bread and the Holy Chalice with shuddering fear.

                  “The communicant – Euthymios the Great continually taught – must know well that whoever approaches unworthily to communicate “eats and drinks” censure and condemnation unto himself.

                  “So if anyone has been overcome by rancor or hate or envy, by pride, abusiveness, obscenity in expression, or indecent desires, or is in any way taken by any other passion whatsoever, let him not participate in Divine Communion, if first he has not cleansed his soul from all of these noxious things through repentance. Because, as the spirit of God says through the Liturgist, the Holy Things are not fitting to those who are profane, but only to the holy.

                  “To the extent, then, that you have a clean conscience and it inspires in you the boldness to approach the Lord, “draw near to Him and be enlightened by Him, being also certain that you will not be chastened.”


                  • This will show that snippy Leslie that she has no business disagreeing with you and JP, Gloriamarie!

                    “The fathers relate to us that, besides other divine gifts, there was also bestowed by God upon Saint Euthymios the following: to perceive, from the external appearance, the internal activities of the souls of people, as though seeing them in mirror images; and to know in detail the thoughts with which each one battled, and, indeed, which among these thoughts he was defeating and by which, through the operation of the devil, he was being defeated.

                    “It is further said of him that sometimes he confided to certain brothers, who went to visit him on their own, that many times he would see angels plainly in front of him, liturgizing and drawing near the Holy Gifts. At the time of the communion of the Master’s Body, he saw some of the communicants as though they were shining, while others darkened in appearance – namely those who were not worthy of that light and of the brightness of Holy Communion.

                    “Thus taking the occasion of these supernatural visions, he warned the brothers against participation in the communion of the Divine Gifts without proper preparation, and counseled them excellently, relying on the Apostle, saying that every Christian should take care to examine himself with exactness to see if he is worthy, thereby, of communicating the Holy Bread and the Holy Chalice with shuddering fear.

                    “The communicant – Euthymios the Great continually taught – must know well that whoever approaches unworthily to communicate “eats and drinks” censure and condemnation unto himself.

                    “So if anyone has been overcome by rancor or hate or envy, by pride, abusiveness, obscenity in expression, or indecent desires, or is in any way taken by any other passion whatsoever, let him not participate in Divine Communion, if first he has not cleansed his soul from all of these noxious things through repentance. Because, as the spirit of God says through the Liturgist, the Holy Things are not fitting to those who are profane, but only to the holy.

                    “To the extent, then, that you have a clean conscience and it inspires in you the boldness to approach the Lord, “draw near to Him and be enlightened by Him, being also certain that you will not be chastened.”


                    “The fathers relate to us that, besides other divine gifts, there was also bestowed by God upon Saint Euthymios the following: to perceive, from the external appearance, the internal activities of the souls of people, as though seeing them in mirror images; and to know in detail the thoughts with which each one battled, and, indeed, which among these thoughts he was defeating and by which, through the operation of the devil, he was being defeated.

                    “It is further said of him that sometimes he confided to certain brothers, who went to visit him on their own, that many times he would see angels plainly in front of him, liturgizing and drawing near the Holy Gifts. At the time of the communion of the Master’s Body, he saw some of the communicants as though they were shining, while others darkened in appearance – namely those who were not worthy of that light and of the brightness of Holy Communion.

                    “Thus taking the occasion of these supernatural visions, he warned the brothers against participation in the communion of the Divine Gifts without proper preparation, and counseled them excellently, relying on the Apostle, saying that every Christian should take care to examine himself with exactness to see if he is worthy, thereby, of communicating the Holy Bread and the Holy Chalice with shuddering fear.

                    “The communicant – Euthymios the Great continually taught – must know well that whoever approaches unworthily to communicate “eats and drinks” censure and condemnation unto himself.

                    “So if anyone has been overcome by rancor or hate or envy, by pride, abusiveness, obscenity in expression, or indecent desires, or is in any way taken by any other passion whatsoever, let him not participate in Divine Communion, if first he has not cleansed his soul from all of these noxious things through repentance. Because, as the spirit of God says through the Liturgist, the Holy Things are not fitting to those who are profane, but only to the holy.

                    “To the extent, then, that you have a clean conscience and it inspires in you the boldness to approach the Lord, “draw near to Him and be enlightened by Him, being also certain that you will not be chastened.”


      • If you didn’t vote then you have no voice. Sorry. You didn’t want to be heard then and you won’t be heard now. Again, you have no voice. You don’t count. Be aware that you are a coward who just whines.

        • Actually, that’s not how democracy works. The person elected is responsible for everyone, not just for the people who voted for them.

    • Steven Charleston

      I will not be silenced by those who shout. I will not bow my head to those who hold theirs high with arrogance. I will not move for those who would push the poor aside. I will not sit down when justice calls us all to stand. I am not particularly brave and I do not think I am always right. I am willing to listen and learn, but I am not willing to deny what I believe. I will not accept hate over love or oppress others for the sake of privilege. I believe we are all equal and I believe we all deserve to be treated with dignity. I have enough faith in the future to be willing to change the present. I am only one, but I know I am not alone.

    • So far, I don’t regret my Trump vote. I like what his cabinet is doing, and going to do. Education, Regulations, Obamacare, Border security, Small business. The stock exchange is going great. I like that a lot.

      I voted for Bill Clinton. I regret that.

      • Dear leslie m.

        You wrote:

        ‘The stock exchange is going great. I like that a lot.’

        Which identifies the real issue — our portfolios. Out of curiosity, how long do you expect this bubble to last?

        Blessings!

          • “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


            • Leslie just can’t take the hint that she’s not welcome here…

              “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


              “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


              “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


              • “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


                “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


                “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


                • “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


                  “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


                  “Again, Abba Rouphos says that greater glory awaits the monk who is obedient to an elder than the hermit who lives by his own will in the solitude of the desert.”


          • Leslie m. I am here because my computer equipment does not like the page you replied to a comment I made. Gremlins I suppose.

            Anyway thank you for your words. I do admire your strong faith. You are much stronger than me in so many ways. You have lived a life so different than mine and it sounds awesome.

            I live only 20 minutes from the town I grew up in. I didn’t get very far.

            When I started to gain some common sense oh so many years ago I embraced living simply. Pretending to be something I am not would be the exact opposite of that. The only thing people have to fear from me is being bored to tears.

            Also thank you for your safety wish. The news alerted us to a flash flood warning today. It should be an exciting month. This is what happens when you complain about the drought. Mother Nature overcompensates sometimes. And then there is the fact we live 2 blocks from a canal.

      • “A novice monk sought out the advice of a certain elder of discretion: “If the behavior of one of my brothers scandalizes me, should I ask his forgiveness?”

        “Ask his forgiveness,” the elder answered, “but cease associating with him. Have you not heard what Arsenios the Great advises? ‘Have love for all, but be detached from everyone.’”

        • “A novice monk sought out the advice of a certain elder of discretion: “If the behavior of one of my brothers scandalizes me, should I ask his forgiveness?”

          “Ask his forgiveness,” the elder answered, “but cease associating with him. Have you not heard what Arsenios the Great advises? ‘Have love for all, but be detached from everyone.’”

          “A novice monk sought out the advice of a certain elder of discretion: “If the behavior of one of my brothers scandalizes me, should I ask his forgiveness?”

          “Ask his forgiveness,” the elder answered, “but cease associating with him. Have you not heard what Arsenios the Great advises? ‘Have love for all, but be detached from everyone.’”

          • “A novice monk sought out the advice of a certain elder of discretion: “If the behavior of one of my brothers scandalizes me, should I ask his forgiveness?”

            “Ask his forgiveness,” the elder answered, “but cease associating with him. Have you not heard what Arsenios the Great advises? ‘Have love for all, but be detached from everyone.’”

            “A novice monk sought out the advice of a certain elder of discretion: “If the behavior of one of my brothers scandalizes me, should I ask his forgiveness?”

            “Ask his forgiveness,” the elder answered, “but cease associating with him. Have you not heard what Arsenios the Great advises? ‘Have love for all, but be detached from everyone.’”

      • I think the Progressives are dangerously close to trying to shut down our Govt. Hopefully, like you say, most Americans are out, doing their ‘Life’.

        yeah JC. I’m ashamed to say, I was a Left Coast Liberal for decades. (sad face) Then, when I decided to believe God’s Word, my IQ jumped about 50 pts. overnight. Hence, I became a Conservative. (smiley face). I am so grateful I can barely stand it (–to know God, that is.)

        • “Likewise, Abba Iperechios calls obedience the invaluable treasure of the monk: “Let him who has attained it be assured that his prayer will always be heard and will be presented with boldness at the altar of Him Who was obedient even unto death.”

          • “Likewise, Abba Iperechios calls obedience the invaluable treasure of the monk: “Let him who has attained it be assured that his prayer will always be heard and will be presented with boldness at the altar of Him Who was obedient even unto death.”

            “Likewise, Abba Iperechios calls obedience the invaluable treasure of the monk: “Let him who has attained it be assured that his prayer will always be heard and will be presented with boldness at the altar of Him Who was obedient even unto death.”

            “Likewise, Abba Iperechios calls obedience the invaluable treasure of the monk: “Let him who has attained it be assured that his prayer will always be heard and will be presented with boldness at the altar of Him Who was obedient even unto death.”

            • “Likewise, Abba Iperechios calls obedience the invaluable treasure of the monk: “Let him who has attained it be assured that his prayer will always be heard and will be presented with boldness at the altar of Him Who was obedient even unto death.”

              “Likewise, Abba Iperechios calls obedience the invaluable treasure of the monk: “Let him who has attained it be assured that his prayer will always be heard and will be presented with boldness at the altar of Him Who was obedient even unto death.”

              “Likewise, Abba Iperechios calls obedience the invaluable treasure of the monk: “Let him who has attained it be assured that his prayer will always be heard and will be presented with boldness at the altar of Him Who was obedient even unto death.”

    • RRIIIIGHT, because ONLY Trump voters are gainfully employed. ?
      Never mind that all the blue states pay more in federal taxes than do red states. Those same red states get quite a bit more in federal subsidies and entitlements than do blue states. For instance California pays approximately $2 in for every $1 they get back from the Feds. So yeah, while I’m busy paying more to support Trump voting red states, I’ll be sure note that none of us are contributing to society at large.

      • The GOP & Republicans most certainly did NOT give Obama a chance. They blocked and obstructed at every turn. Please don’t tell me to give a guy in collaboration with the Russians ” a chance.” And believe me when I tell you that is just the beginning of the list with what’s wrong with sociopath currently living in the White House.

        And in any event Joe you’re consistently pulling a “KellyAnne” by deflecting and re-directing every time a point is brought up that you have no answer or logical defense for.

        Because of your inability to stick to same topic, I’m going to bed , because, oh yeah, I gotta get up tomorrow morning early and be unemployed like all of my other Democratic sisters and brothers.

        • “It is impossible for a monk to have Christ continuously in his heart without silence, humility, and unceasing prayer,” the same elder used to say.”

      • “Beware, Christian, never to wrong your brother, lest your prayer become unacceptable before God. If, nevertheless, you wrong someone, your prayer is not acceptable. The sighs of the one wronged do not allow it to reach heaven. If you learn that someone is speaking ill things of you and he should come at some time to visit you, do not show him in your mannerisms that you know of all this and that you are upset with him. Appear to him cheerful, with a calm face and a sweet way, so that your prayer might be bold before God,” a certain Abba advises.”

    • “And the very wise Abba Agathon said: “When I see that a person-even if he is very dear to me-is becoming the occasion for me to acquire some fault, I immediately cut off all ties with him.”

    • Dear Joe Catholic:

      ‘…liberal hacks like Pavlovitich who has abandoned Christianity in order to worship liberal politics’

      Proof please! Where?

      Blessings!

  4. I voted for Trump. I’m not sorry. I would be sorry if Hillary would have been elected. I felt the same way as you’ve do John about protecting the Constitution has it was being dismantled by President Obama. I was called a racist @&$(: for not supporting President Obama. I feel your pain John. Can you imagine how the media would have treated any protests the size of what we are witnessing now had they been against Obama. I sincerely hope your day goes better tomorrow.

    • “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

      • Be gone Trump supporter!

        “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

        “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

        “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

        • “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

          “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

          “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

  5. Hi John, I thought I would benefit from your relationship with the GLBT community. I thought maybe I’d be able to understand the pain and how I can love and be compassionate with a community I don’t want to leave behind. But, over the past year, I’ve only heard you attack and belittle our now elected president and those that voted for and support the changes he what’s to make. I don’t remember Jesus Christ railing against the roman empire day in and day out., I remember Him loving, healing, supporting and sharing His saving grace. If anything he spent more time examining and calling out the religious leaders for their behavior. I haven’t heard of any statements that would undermine the GLBT rights and even if he had, it’s my behavior and my relationship with Christ that will encourage love and understanding. I voted for Trump understood and supported many of the things he said. I am no less or no more that anyone else. He who is without sin, you cast the first stone. He or she who is without sin, you are foolish and lost. Please release your hate and embrace the same compassion I thought you were preaching for GLBT.., we’re the same as you.

    • “The same Abba Antonios, pondering the ways of God, once asked: “Lord, how does it happen that many live very few years and yet others reach a ripe old age? And how is it that some live in poverty while others are rich? And how is it that the unjust continue to grow richer and the just are poor?” Then he heard a voice say to him: “Antonios, watch yourself, for those things which you ask about belong to the inscrutable ways of God’s wisdom and it is not to your benefit to learn of them.”

    • Mr. Kenison, you have mistaken disagreement for hate. To believe that some voters have chosen a candidate for the wrong reasons is not hate. To believe that they have come to see that their choice brought an unqualified person to the White House, and that those voters may regret their choice and wish to join with others to protest his decisions is not hate. Hatred is not involved here–a desire to protest against the actions of the President and a welcome to those voters who have decided that their vote in the last election was a mistake, absolutely. But no hate.

      • I agree and I would add that if they bought the lies and now realize they were lies and realize their mistake, that isn’t hate. Just saying, Peace,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      • St. John Chrysostom says:

        If thou seest a poor man, take pity on him!
        If thou seest in enemy, be reconciled to him!
        If thou seest a friend gaining honor, envy him not!
        If thou seest a handsome woman, pass her by!
        For let not the mouth only fast, but also the eye, and the ear, and the feet, and the hands, and all the members of our bodies.
        Let the hands fast, by being pure from rapine and avarice.
        Let the feet fast, by ceasing from running to the unlawful spectacles.
        Let the eyes fast, being taught never to fix themselves rudely upon handsome countenances, or to busy themselves with strange beauties.

        • But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murder by the mother herself.

          And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love and we remind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts. Jesus gave even His life to love us. So, the mother who is thinking of abortion, should be helped to love, that is, to give until it hurts her plans, or her free time, to respect the life of her child. The father of that child, whoever he is, must also give until it hurts.

          By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems.

          And, by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. That father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion.

          Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion.

          Sister Gloriamarie, please refrain from calling yourself “Sister” until you understand the above, take it to heart, and live it and preach it. Otherwise you dishonor your calling.

          • How on earth did we get from a quotation from Saint John Chrysostom to a rant about abortion and insults being hurled at Gloriamarie? I sincerely do not know how such a mind works.

            • Because it’s Benny.Joe/Lone/ Let Them…/Peter/Everyone Has…

              We all know he has pathological obsessions.

              He was just praising Mother Teresa yesterday, so this is the coward’s new pseudonym.

          • Oh Look it’s Benny.Joe/Lone/ Let Them…/Peter/Everyone Has…

            “In case we should ever fall into carnal sin,” Abba Moses told his disciples, “let us repent and let us mourn now before the lamentation of our dread condemnation prevents us.”

    • Dan K. thank you for your comments. i definitely feel for you. Chadwick Moore, a gay, New Yorker, atheist (after some serious research) just came ‘out’ as a ‘Conservative’, and he said it was more difficult & frightening than when he came out as Gay.

      His research led him to see the blind hatred that the Left is displaying is completely unreasonable, and damaging to our country. He said he has been overwhelmingly embraced and welcomed by Conservatives from all over the country. He said their Open Mindedness far surpasses the intolerant Progressives.

  6. Mental Health Professionals Issue Dire Warning About Trump

    To The Editors of the New York Times
    To the Editor:

    Charles M. Blow (column, nytimes.com, Feb. 9) describes Donald Trump’s constant need “to grind the opposition underfoot.” As mental health professionals, we share Mr. Blow’s concern.

    Silence from the country’s mental health organizations has been due to a self-imposed dictum about evaluating public figures (the American Psychiatric Association’s 1973 Goldwater Rule). But this silence has resulted in a failure to lend our expertise to worried journalists and members of Congress at this critical time. We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer.

    Mr. Trump’s speech and actions demonstrate an inability to tolerate views different from his own, leading to rage reactions. His words and behavior suggest a profound inability to empathize. Individuals with these traits distort reality to suit their psychological state, attacking facts and those who convey them (journalists, scientists).

    In a powerful leader, these attacks are likely to increase, as his personal myth of greatness appears to be confirmed. We believe that the grave emotional instability indicated by Mr. Trump’s speech and actions makes him incapable of serving safely as president.

    Lance Dodes, M.D.

    Joseph Schachter, M.D., Ph.D.

    Susan Radant, Ph.D.

    Judith Schachter, M.D.

    Jules Kerman, M.D., Ph.D

    Jeffrey Seitelman, M.D., Ph.D.

    Henry Friedman, M.D.

    Babak Roshanaei-Moghaddam, MD

    David Cooper, Ph.D.

    Dena Sorbo, LCSW, BCD

    Joseph Reppen, Ph.D.

    Ernest Wallwork, Ph.D.

    Judith E. Vida, M.D.

    Richard Reichbart, J.D., Ph.D.

    Joseph Abrahams, M.D.

    Leslie Schweitzer-Miller, M.D.

    Cheryl Y. Goodrich, Ph.D.

    Lourdes Henares-Levy, M.D.

    Alexandra Rolde, M.D.

    Dr. med. Helen Schoenhals Hart

    Eva D. Papiasvili, Ph.D.

    Mali Mann, M.D.

    Phyllis Tyson, Ph.D.

    Era A. Loewenstein, Ph.D.

    Marianna Adler, Ph.D.

    Henry Nunberg, M.D.

    Marc R. Hirsch, Ph.D.

    Lora Heims Tessman, Ph.D.

    Monisha Nayar-Akhtar, Ph.D.

    Victoria Schreiber, M.A., L.M.S.W.

    Penny M Freedman, Ph.D.

    Merton A. Shill, JD. LLM., PhD.

    Helen K. Gediman, Ph.D.

    Michael P. Kowitt, Ph.D.

    Leonard Glass, M.D.

    http://samuel-warde.com/2017/02/mental-health-professionals-issue-dire-warning-trump/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SamuelWarde+%28Samuel+Wynn+Warde%29

    • 35 out of how many? SMH.

      The Goldwater Rule was set up for a reason:

      It was to not have them violate one of the basic tenets of medicine ~ making a blind diagnosis ~ watching someone on TV, no matter how many hours, is not a substitute for actual therapy sessions – and professionals KNOW this,

      … to not make claims the accusing professionals knows can only be properly refuted by the ‘victim’s psychiatrist violating their Doctor-Patient Confidentiality, or for their patient to agree to cough up personally damaging/painful therapy sessions (aka harm themselves ~ so Good Job, Healers!),

      … and to not politicize the profession because it WILL turn away potential patients ~ in the belief their healthcare professional have an agenda which supersedes their health.

      Not that it matters; no one who isn’t deep in the Liberal camp reads the New York Times anymore as anything but ‘enemy’ propaganda. Even it this was somehow truthful and relevant, how would it be conveyed to the American public?

        • “A desert elder set off for the nearest village to sell his baskets. On the road that he was going down, the devil found him and, out of the intense malice he had toward the elder, snatched the baskets from his hands and disappeared. The elder, without being at all upset, raised his eyes to heaven and said, “I thank you, my God, that you have relieved me of my burden and the trouble of going down to the village.” Then the devil, not suffering the calmness of the hermit, threw the baskets in his face, shouting: “Take them back, old man.”

          “The monk gathered them up again and continued on his way to the village.”


          • “A desert elder set off for the nearest village to sell his baskets. On the road that he was going down, the devil found him and, out of the intense malice he had toward the elder, snatched the baskets from his hands and disappeared. The elder, without being at all upset, raised his eyes to heaven and said, “I thank you, my God, that you have relieved me of my burden and the trouble of going down to the village.” Then the devil, not suffering the calmness of the hermit, threw the baskets in his face, shouting: “Take them back, old man.”

            “The monk gathered them up again and continued on his way to the village.”


            “A desert elder set off for the nearest village to sell his baskets. On the road that he was going down, the devil found him and, out of the intense malice he had toward the elder, snatched the baskets from his hands and disappeared. The elder, without being at all upset, raised his eyes to heaven and said, “I thank you, my God, that you have relieved me of my burden and the trouble of going down to the village.” Then the devil, not suffering the calmness of the hermit, threw the baskets in his face, shouting: “Take them back, old man.”

            “The monk gathered them up again and continued on his way to the village.”


            “A desert elder set off for the nearest village to sell his baskets. On the road that he was going down, the devil found him and, out of the intense malice he had toward the elder, snatched the baskets from his hands and disappeared. The elder, without being at all upset, raised his eyes to heaven and said, “I thank you, my God, that you have relieved me of my burden and the trouble of going down to the village.” Then the devil, not suffering the calmness of the hermit, threw the baskets in his face, shouting: “Take them back, old man.”

            “The monk gathered them up again and continued on his way to the village.”


  7. “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

    • “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

      “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

      “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

      • “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

        “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

        “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

        • “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

          “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

          “Abba Pombo asked Abba Anthony, “What ought I to do?” and the old man said to him, “Do not trust in your own righteousness; do not worry about the past, but control your tongue and your stomach.”

  8. “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

    “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

    • “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

      “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

      “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

      “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

      “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

      “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

      • “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

        “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

        “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

        “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

        “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

        “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

        • “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

          “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

          “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

          “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

          “Abba Poeman said: “The nature of water is yielding, and that of a stone is hard. Yet if you hang a bottle filled with water above the stone so that the water drips drop by drop it will wear a hole in the stone.

          “In the same way, the word of God is tender, and our heart is hard. Thus when people hear the word of God frequently, their hearts become opened to God.”

  9. To Joe and all the other “pro life Christians,” please let’s get the terminology right. You are anti-abortion, not pro-life. Pro-life would mean that you would vote not just on the topic of abortion, but also how your candidate and their policies value ALL life. And while there’re is no direct reference to abortion anywhere in the New Teatament, there are several on how we should be treating people: Luke 14:12-14. Matthew 10:7-8. Matthew 19:14. Pro-life means to follow the teachings of Christ about caring for others: the poor, the sick, the stranger. Nowhere does Christ say “Hey! It’s okay to ignore EVERYTHING ELSE I SAID so long as you are anti-abortion!” When an administrations policies include doing everything possible to turn its back on refugees, on the poor, on leaving people without access to medical care, you can safely say it is neither Christian nor pro-life.

    • Cyndy,
      Thank you!!! I have said this over and over and it is lovely to hear someone else say it. Normally the comeback that I get is “I care for the poor why I gave to the church food bank or I took my castoffs to Goodwill”. That is not giving people dignity it is keeping them down so they have to beg and then you can feel wonderful about giving canned goods that you no longer want or clothes etc that you no longer want. Jesus says that’s not how your suppose to be. If you are so concerned about the unborn make it easier for people to bring them into the world and TAKE CARE OF THEM. Now, I am done with my rant. Thanks for the opportunity, Peace…….

    • “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

      • “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

        “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

        “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

        • “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

          “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

          “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

          • “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

            “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

            “When I was a child,” the Holy Makarios once said, “I grazed cattle along with other children. One day they went to steal figs and took me along. When we returned to the herd, one of the figs fell from their basket and I picked it up and ate it. Even now that my hair has grown white, I remember that sin and I lament.”

    • Cyndy, let’s get both sides of the equation correct then. If the proper terminology for the right is anti-abortion, the left must then be anti-responsible with regards to reproductive capabilities.

      • Actually, those who are “anti-responsible with regards to reproductive capabilities” will be found on the right because they want to deny contraceptive care to women. People on the right don’t care two figs what happens to a child once they’ve forced the birth.

        On the left, you will find those who are truly in favor of life, the living, because we tend to oppose war, want prison reform, in favor of Dreamers, in favor of welcoming the refugees who are trying to save their lives and the lives of their families.

  10. Oh Catholic Joe: your ability to get a rise out us is waning indeed. Your need to stop trolling and focus on what exactly your candidate is doing right rather than just gloating about winning. Winning is the easy part, leading & governing are the hard things, and have been in very short supply since the inauguration. So prove to us how good all the GOP politicians are with exact, concise & truthful examples. Otherwise, just go troll somewhere else.

    • Maybe, as Jesus desired us to do, John is encouraging us to look out and defend the weaker among us. I’m thinking that’s one pretty good way to get into a nice afterlife.

      • Joe, you should know that DT tried to get his mistress (and later second wife) Marla Maples to get an abortion w/ daughter Tiffany. So the idea that DT protects innocent children is a fallacy.

        • Head in sand much, Joe?

          All your rants about how abortion is a sin of great magnitude and yet when confronted with a possibility of your political deity being a pro-abortion proponent, you don’t even care enough to do the research to find out if it’s true (it is). Sounds pretty hypocritical if you ask me. So I guess you only care about abortion when you can dump on women and not when you have to hold men accountable, eh?

          • Angela, as much as I appreciate that you speak up for women, Joe Catholic has such a pathological obsession with women’s bodies that it is unseemly. He has demonstrated himself to be a toll her with one issue to proselytize along with his worship of He who shall not be named. If you wish to engage him, it is your choice, of course, but I warn you, you will get nowhere except very badly hurt because that’s his M.O.

          • “It is said by the Fathers of Abba John the Persian that malefactors once went into his hut with the apparent intent of killing him. The blessed one prepared a basin and stooped down to wash their feet, as he would do for his best friends. At this, the malefactors, embarrassed, left him alone and departed.”

          • Well if you truly believe that men should held accountable, then why are you not focusing on that? Mano a mano, calling men into accountability. Instead you bully women into not having abortions. Go bully the men for a change.

            • “Do you wish God to hear your prayer immediately, brother?” asks Abba Zenon. “When you lift your hands up to heaven, pray first of all, with your heart, for your enemies and God will grant you speedily whatever else you request.”

        • Angela, key word here is “tried”. Do you think that he regrets the position he held long ago today seeing that he knows this fetus that has become his daughter? I highly doubt that he wishes her dead today. Have you heard of anyone who wishes they would have had an abortion that didn’t? I bet you can find many more women who had their baby and are thankful they didn’t abort as opposed to those that didn’t, but wish they did. Let me know of your findings.

          Your argument is based upon a past position that may not be true today. That is some pretty shaky ground you’re standing on. You might want to do a history check of some very prominent Democratic politicians and see how they stood in the past and where they ended up on issues of abortion, homosexuality, gay marriage, etc.

          • “Once some elders went to visit Abba Antonios. Along with them was Abba Joseph. The Great Father, to test them, chose a certain written maxim and asked each of them, one by one, to tell its meaning. So each one began to explain it according to his understanding

            “You did not find its meaning,” he answered each of them.

            “Then came Abba Joseph’s turn.

            “What do you have to say about this, Joseph?” Antonios the Great asked him.

            “I do not know of such things,” he replied.

            “Abba Joseph gave the correct answer,” the holy one then said, marveling at Abba Joseph’s humility.”

            • Take THIS fetus loving pro-birther!

              “Once some elders went to visit Abba Antonios. Along with them was Abba Joseph. The Great Father, to test them, chose a certain written maxim and asked each of them, one by one, to tell its meaning. So each one began to explain it according to his understanding

              “You did not find its meaning,” he answered each of them.

              “Then came Abba Joseph’s turn.

              “What do you have to say about this, Joseph?” Antonios the Great asked him.

              “I do not know of such things,” he replied.

              “Abba Joseph gave the correct answer,” the holy one then said, marveling at Abba Joseph’s humility.”

              “Once some elders went to visit Abba Antonios. Along with them was Abba Joseph. The Great Father, to test them, chose a certain written maxim and asked each of them, one by one, to tell its meaning. So each one began to explain it according to his understanding

              “You did not find its meaning,” he answered each of them.

              “Then came Abba Joseph’s turn.

              “What do you have to say about this, Joseph?” Antonios the Great asked him.

              “I do not know of such things,” he replied.

              “Abba Joseph gave the correct answer,” the holy one then said, marveling at Abba Joseph’s humility.”

              “Once some elders went to visit Abba Antonios. Along with them was Abba Joseph. The Great Father, to test them, chose a certain written maxim and asked each of them, one by one, to tell its meaning. So each one began to explain it according to his understanding

              “You did not find its meaning,” he answered each of them.

              “Then came Abba Joseph’s turn.

              “What do you have to say about this, Joseph?” Antonios the Great asked him.

              “I do not know of such things,” he replied.

              “Abba Joseph gave the correct answer,” the holy one then said, marveling at Abba Joseph’s humility.”

              • “Once some elders went to visit Abba Antonios. Along with them was Abba Joseph. The Great Father, to test them, chose a certain written maxim and asked each of them, one by one, to tell its meaning. So each one began to explain it according to his understanding

                “You did not find its meaning,” he answered each of them.

                “Then came Abba Joseph’s turn.

                “What do you have to say about this, Joseph?” Antonios the Great asked him.

                “I do not know of such things,” he replied.

                “Abba Joseph gave the correct answer,” the holy one then said, marveling at Abba Joseph’s humility.”

                “Once some elders went to visit Abba Antonios. Along with them was Abba Joseph. The Great Father, to test them, chose a certain written maxim and asked each of them, one by one, to tell its meaning. So each one began to explain it according to his understanding

                “You did not find its meaning,” he answered each of them.

                “Then came Abba Joseph’s turn.

                “What do you have to say about this, Joseph?” Antonios the Great asked him.

                “I do not know of such things,” he replied.

                “Abba Joseph gave the correct answer,” the holy one then said, marveling at Abba Joseph’s humility.”

                “Once some elders went to visit Abba Antonios. Along with them was Abba Joseph. The Great Father, to test them, chose a certain written maxim and asked each of them, one by one, to tell its meaning. So each one began to explain it according to his understanding

                “You did not find its meaning,” he answered each of them.

                “Then came Abba Joseph’s turn.

                “What do you have to say about this, Joseph?” Antonios the Great asked him.

                “I do not know of such things,” he replied.

                “Abba Joseph gave the correct answer,” the holy one then said, marveling at Abba Joseph’s humility.”

          • Again with a re-direct. Since I’m not shilling for not supporting Any candidate here, I don’t really need to do “my research” as you say. Joe was supporting a man who wanted to abort his own child, while simultaneously shaming others on this forum for supporting a woman’s right to choose. I just called BS (because my meter was going crazy!)

      • “The blacksmith, who pounds a piece of iron,” says Saint Antonios the Great, “has previously thought about what he wants to make – a sickle, a knife, an axe – and works accordingly. And so let the man of God ponder in advance which virtue he wishes to acquire, in order not to toil aimlessly.”

      • Angela,
        The Bible is not a book that tells us how Jesus ran a social justice program while on earth. If you think that, then you missed the whole point. Doing good towards others is not the end means by which we get to heaven.

        • The Fathers of the skete once gathered to speak among themselves about spiritual things, and forgot to invite Abba Kopris. They began to discuss the person of Melchizidek and did not come to agreement in their opinions. Then they remembered Abba Kopris and sent summons to him so that they could get his opinion. When he heard of the cause of their disagreement and the subject about which they had idled away so many hours arguing, he struck himself three times on the mouth and said: “Woe to you, monk. You have set aside that which God has asked of you and you have sought to find those things which He will never ask of you.”

          “Hearing his wise words, the other elders left their gathering and returned to their cells, pensive.”


        • So basically what you’re saying is that if I take communion every week, or accept Jesus into my heart, I can still be an a$$h*le to everyone? Not the kind of life I want to lead, but to each their own.

          • “While still a young monk, Abba Poimen asked to learn from Antonios the Great what he should do to find his salvation.

            “Acknowledge your faults with a broken heart,” this Father of Fathers answered, “and humble yourself before God. Also, endure patiently the temptations which occur to you and be sure that you will be saved.”


            • “While still a young monk, Abba Poimen asked to learn from Antonios the Great what he should do to find his salvation.

              “Acknowledge your faults with a broken heart,” this Father of Fathers answered, “and humble yourself before God. Also, endure patiently the temptations which occur to you and be sure that you will be saved.”


              “While still a young monk, Abba Poimen asked to learn from Antonios the Great what he should do to find his salvation.

              “Acknowledge your faults with a broken heart,” this Father of Fathers answered, “and humble yourself before God. Also, endure patiently the temptations which occur to you and be sure that you will be saved.”


              • “While still a young monk, Abba Poimen asked to learn from Antonios the Great what he should do to find his salvation.

                “Acknowledge your faults with a broken heart,” this Father of Fathers answered, “and humble yourself before God. Also, endure patiently the temptations which occur to you and be sure that you will be saved.”


                “While still a young monk, Abba Poimen asked to learn from Antonios the Great what he should do to find his salvation.

                “Acknowledge your faults with a broken heart,” this Father of Fathers answered, “and humble yourself before God. Also, endure patiently the temptations which occur to you and be sure that you will be saved.”


    • “When he was about to die, the holy Agathon remained in his bed motionless for three days, his eyes open and upturned towards heaven. On the third day, when he recovered some, his disciples, who had assembled around him, asked him to tell them where his soul was during all of that interval of time.

      “Before the judgment of God,” he murmured, trembling.

      “And you are afraid, Father?” the brothers asked with perplexity.

      “I tried, as best I could, to keep the laws of God all of my life. But I am a man. How do I know that I have pleased God?” the holy one responded with great pain.

      “You are not sure that your works were pleasing to God?” said the astonished monks.

      “Until I am before God, no,” answered the holy one, “for man judges with one standard and God with another.”

      “The brothers wanted to ask other things for the benefit of their souls, but the holy one nodded to them not to speak any further.

      “I am preoccupied,” his lips whispered.

      “His countenance began to shine! His disciples saw him leave this vain world for eternal life with the joy which one feels when he sets off to meet his most beloved acquaintance.”


      • “When he was about to die, the holy Agathon remained in his bed motionless for three days, his eyes open and upturned towards heaven. On the third day, when he recovered some, his disciples, who had assembled around him, asked him to tell them where his soul was during all of that interval of time.

        “Before the judgment of God,” he murmured, trembling.

        “And you are afraid, Father?” the brothers asked with perplexity.

        “I tried, as best I could, to keep the laws of God all of my life. But I am a man. How do I know that I have pleased God?” the holy one responded with great pain.

        “You are not sure that your works were pleasing to God?” said the astonished monks.

        “Until I am before God, no,” answered the holy one, “for man judges with one standard and God with another.”

        “The brothers wanted to ask other things for the benefit of their souls, but the holy one nodded to them not to speak any further.

        “I am preoccupied,” his lips whispered.

        “His countenance began to shine! His disciples saw him leave this vain world for eternal life with the joy which one feels when he sets off to meet his most beloved acquaintance.”


        • “When he was about to die, the holy Agathon remained in his bed motionless for three days, his eyes open and upturned towards heaven. On the third day, when he recovered some, his disciples, who had assembled around him, asked him to tell them where his soul was during all of that interval of time.

          “Before the judgment of God,” he murmured, trembling.

          “And you are afraid, Father?” the brothers asked with perplexity.

          “I tried, as best I could, to keep the laws of God all of my life. But I am a man. How do I know that I have pleased God?” the holy one responded with great pain.

          “You are not sure that your works were pleasing to God?” said the astonished monks.

          “Until I am before God, no,” answered the holy one, “for man judges with one standard and God with another.”

          “The brothers wanted to ask other things for the benefit of their souls, but the holy one nodded to them not to speak any further.

          “I am preoccupied,” his lips whispered.

          “His countenance began to shine! His disciples saw him leave this vain world for eternal life with the joy which one feels when he sets off to meet his most beloved acquaintance.”


          • “When he was about to die, the holy Agathon remained in his bed motionless for three days, his eyes open and upturned towards heaven. On the third day, when he recovered some, his disciples, who had assembled around him, asked him to tell them where his soul was during all of that interval of time.

            “Before the judgment of God,” he murmured, trembling.

            “And you are afraid, Father?” the brothers asked with perplexity.

            “I tried, as best I could, to keep the laws of God all of my life. But I am a man. How do I know that I have pleased God?” the holy one responded with great pain.

            “You are not sure that your works were pleasing to God?” said the astonished monks.

            “Until I am before God, no,” answered the holy one, “for man judges with one standard and God with another.”

            “The brothers wanted to ask other things for the benefit of their souls, but the holy one nodded to them not to speak any further.

            “I am preoccupied,” his lips whispered.

            “His countenance began to shine! His disciples saw him leave this vain world for eternal life with the joy which one feels when he sets off to meet his most beloved acquaintance.”


  11. This is where I stand. To me, FB is a useful vehicle for my passion and activism. Our 45th President, his power hungry cronies taking positions of authority in his Cabinet and administration, and the majority of Republicans in Congress are a real and active threat to me, my way of life, and all the people I love. Some people are saying that we should give Trump a chance, that we should “work together” with him because he won the election and he is “everyone’s president.” This is my response:
    •I will not forget how badly he and so many others treated former President Barack Obama for 8 years…
    •I will not “work together” to privatize Medicare, cut Social Security and Medicaid.
    •I will not “work together” to build a wall.
    •I will not “work together” to persecute Muslims.
    •I will not “work together” to shut out refugees from other countries.
    •I will not “work together” to lower taxes on the 1% and increase taxes on the middle class and poor.
    •I will not “work together” to help Trump use the Presidency to line his pockets and those of his family and cronies.
    •I will not “work together” to weaken and demolish environmental protection.
    •I will not “work together” to sell American lands, especially National Parks, to companies which then despoil those lands.
    •I will not “work together” to enable the killing of whole species of animals just because they are predators, or inconvenient for a few, or because some people want to get their thrills killing them.
    •I will not “work together” to remove civil rights from anyone.
    •I will not “work together” to alienate countries that have been our allies for as long as I have been alive.
    •I will not “work together” to slash funding for education.
    •I will not “work together” to take basic assistance from people who are at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.
    •I will not “work together” to get rid of common sense regulations on guns.
    •I will not “work together” to eliminate the minimum wage.
    •I will not “work together” to support so-called “Right To Work” laws, or undermine, weaken or destroy Unions in any way.
    •I will not “work together” to suppress scientific research, be it on climate change, fracking, or any other issue where a majority of scientists agree that Trump and his supporters are wrong on the facts.
    •I will not “work together” to criminalize abortion or restrict health care for women.
    •I will not “work together” to increase the number of nations that have nuclear weapons.
    •I will not “work together” to put even more “big money” into politics.
    •I will not “work together” to violate the Geneva Convention.
    •I will not “work together” to give the Ku Klux Klan, the Nazi Party and white supremacists a seat at the table, or to normalize their hatred.
    •I will not “work together” to deny health care to people who need it.
    •I will not “work together” to deny medical coverage to people on the basis of a “pre-existing condition.”
    •I will not “work together” to increase voter suppression.
    •I will not “work together” to normalize tyranny.
    I will not “work together” to eliminate or reduce ethical oversite at any level of government.
    •I will not “work together” with anyone who is, or admires, tyrants and dictators.
    •I will not support anyone that thinks its OK to put a pipeline to transport oil on Sacred Ground for Native Americans. And, it would run under the Missouri River, which provides drinking water for millions of people. An accident waiting to happen.
    This is my line, and I am drawing it.
    •I will stand for honesty, love, respect for all living beings, and for the beating heart that is the center of Life itself.
    •I will use my voice and my hands, to reach out to the uninformed, and to anyone who will LISTEN:
    That “winning”, “being great again”, “rich” or even “beautiful” is nothing… When others are sacrificed to glorify its existence.
    If you agree feel free to copy and re-post (this results in larger numbers of people seeing a post)

    • “The good Christian,” says the wise Abba Nistheros, “must take account of himself morning and evening and say: ‘What, from all that God desires, did I do, and what did I neglect to do?’ Only in this manner will one succeed in conducting himself in accordance with the will of God.”

  12. John P is leading people to truth in ways you simply can’t fathom. You are welcome to remain blinded by your own stories if you’d like, but at least try to realize that your version of reality is not all there is.

    • “To a certain brother, who asked what to do when he had temptations or evil thoughts in his mind, the same elder answered: “Run, weeping, to the goodness of God, crying out with all of the power of your soul, asking aid. God is near to one who appeals to Him, the Holy Scriptures tell us.”

    • “When you feel compunction in your heart,” a certain elder counsels, “leave all other thoughts and say to your mind: ‘Perhaps the hour of my death is approaching and God is sending me mourning and tears in order to save me.’ For since the devil wars more strongly against a man at the last, in order to root him in evil, so God sends him such things within, in order to save him.”

    • “Man’s conscience is like a spring,” the Fathers say, “which, the deeper you hollow it out, the more greatly you cleanse it. If, however, you cover it with soil, in little time it will be lost.”

    • “At the moment that a holy elder was in the throes of death, the devil appeared before him and shouted at him: “You destroyed me, you wretch.”

      “I am still not sure of that, ” the Saint replied, and reposed.”

    • JOE, your comments always leave me wondering if when faced with the afterlife, God wants an explanation from you as to why you were always so judgemental on Earth. I suspect that expressing loving kindness here on Earth is the real ticket to a happy afterlife, not spending time telling everyone else how wrong they are. Just a thought.

      • “The holy Theodora was in the habit of telling her disciples very frequently how neither great asceticism, nor extremely hard work, nor any other sufferings whatsoever can save a man as much as true humility of the heart. She also related the following anecdote:

        “A certain hermit had a gift from God to cast out evil spirits. One time he asked to learn what they feared most and what compelled them to flee.

        “Perhaps it is fasting?” he asked one of them.

        “We,” the evil spirit replied, “neither ever eat nor ever drink.”

        “Sleepless vigils, then?”

        “We do not sleep at all.”

        “Flight from the world?”

        “Supposedly an important thing. But we spend the greater part of our time wandering around the deserts.”

        “I implore you to confess what it is that can subdue you,” insisted the elder.

        “The evil spirit, compelled by a supernatural force, was pressed to answer: “Humility – which we can never overcome.”

        • well, leslie, that contradicts the teaching of Jesus who instructed us not to judge lest we be judged– perhaps you meant — Joe Catholic is not the judge of anyone. God is.

        • “If a man does not say with his heart, ‘only God and I exist in this world,’ he finds no peace,” said Abba Alonios.”

      • “One night thieves went to a certain hermit.

        “We came to take your things,” they said to him viciously.

        “Without losing composure, he said to them, “Come in and take whatever you like.”

        “They emptied his poor hut of every last thing and left hurriedly. They forgot, however, to take a small flask that was hanging from a beam of the roof. The hermit took it down and, running behind the robbers, shouted for them to listen and to stop.

        “Come back, brothers, to take this too.” And he showed them from afar the small flask.

        “They were amazed by his forgiving nature and returned, not to take the flask, but to offer repentance and to return all of his things.

        “This is, indeed, a man of God,” they said among themselves.”



    • “My brother, if your soul were pure and upright before the Lord, you would be able to profit from all things of this life. If you were to see a wandering peddler, you would say to yourself: ‘my soul, from the desire to earn fleeting, earthly goods, the peddler toils a great deal and endures much, concentrating on things which will not ultimately remain under his domain. Why, then, do you not look after those things which are eternal and incorruptible?’

      “Once again, if you were to see those who dispute in court over financial matters, you would say: ‘My soul, these people, often having not a single need, show such ardor and quarrel with such shouting between themselves. You, who owe to God a myriad of talents, why do you not implore God, bowing down as one should, to obtain cancellation of that debt?’

      “If you were to see a builder making houses, you would again say: ‘my soul, these same, even if they build houses from mud, show such great zeal to finish the work they have laid out. You, why are you indifferent to eternal structures and why do you not struggle to erect the abode of God within the soul, forming and joining the virtues by the will?’

      “Now, in order not to be prolix in citing various circumstances one by one, let us say that we must take care to transform our worldly thoughts and observations, which are born of our material perspective on things of the present life, to spiritual ones. Thereby, we shall profit from all things with the help and assistance of Divine Grace” (Saint Ephraim).”

    • “I burn with the passion to be martyred for the love of Christ,” a neophyte monk one day said to an experienced elder.

      “If you gladly take up your brother’s burden at a time of temptation,” the elder answered him, “it is like being thrown into the furnace with the three Holy Children.”

  13. God is not “in control”. That implies He orchestrates all things, whether sinful or not. But God does not traffic in sin. Rather, God is “sovereign”. And sometimes, He sovereignly allows His sinful children to run things, usually to their detriment, for His sovereign purposes. Go figure.

  14. I think John knows as well as anyone that this bell cannot be unrung. I think he does write to provide fodder for comment. A comment thread would soon become tedious with the same people saying the same things that they all agree on.

    I understand why Republicans voted Republican and why Democrats voted Democrat. Republicans voted for Republican policies, the same policies that are the reason I would never vote Republican.

    Now I am waiting for a Republican to be a hero. The one that will stand up and say we won, we are confident that all of our policies can be pushed through one way or another. We were able to use our power to block Obama’s Supreme Court pick. Now let us pause and say – Nothing is more important to us than this country and its Constitution.

    He would say, we are going to work together to stop the chaos, not by ignoring it, or brushing it off but by addressing it head on. He would say let us assure everyone in this country that we understand your fears – we are concerned about Russian involvement in the election and we will use everything we have to get to the bottom of this.

    He will say we understand your concerns about Trump using this country and its taxpayers to line his pockets. We are carefully monitoring it.

    He will say we understand that Republicans and Democrats, the Judiciary, and the Executive Branch work for the people, for this country.

    He will say that our first concern is the people and if they speak we will listen, not just by calling them names, or ignoring them, or mocking them but addressing them and providing explanations for their actions.

    We need to stop the lies, the alternate facts, the duplicity and most importantly the chaos, the almost daily fires to be put out, the smokescreen.

    Who is going to be the one to reach out to calm the waters of the anger on both sides? Personally I think it needs to come from the Republican side. They are the ones in complete charge.

    • I don’t think that person is out there. They used to be but I don’t think that they are anymore. Which is sad. Now it’s my way or the highway. Even that ones you might think you could count on have been silenced to go along. I truly don’t believe they all think that what is going on in DC is good but I do think that we have reached a point where money and power are the only things that seems to matter. I pray I am wrong and I will continue to advocate for what I believe is right beyond that.. If someone wants to make fun of me and my beliefs, I have come to the conclusion that that is on them, not between me and my God. They don’t want dialogue they want to beat you over the head with their ideology. Newsflash, we have separation of church and state. I will pray for them but I will not argue or defend myself. I am 75 years old, I have seen a lot of poverty and suffering in my life, so I wish they would at least understand my sincerity of beliefs. I don’t think they can so……………. Peace…………………

      • During the Reagan administration, the GOP ceased to disagree and instead started categorizing, demonizing, labeling, and stereotyping anyone who disagreed with them. It caught on fast and soon it was impossible to have a conversation with anyone on the Right. I remember Bush 2 stating that they would talk to anyone as long as they agreed with them.

        I think Joanne is right, the GOP started it and it is up to the GOP to repent and lead the way back into peaceful discourse.

        There are still moderate Republicans and maybe even some liberal Republicans, there used to be lots of each. But the GOP extremists drowned out their voices a long time ago.

        This country needs peaceful reasonable discourse and an end to the categorizing, demonizing, labeling, and stereotyping . We need an end to “one issue” thinking and a return to “common good” thinking.

        • Gloriamarie,
          I am in total agreement. I do believe those liberal and moderate GOPers have left the party, so I am not sure there is anyone to talk to who has ears to hear. They absolutely refused to work with the last administration so why would they talk now. Just saying. Peace

    • “An elder went to visit Abba Achillas and saw him spitting blood from his mouth.

      “What happened, brother,” he asked.

      “And this man of forbearance replied. “What you saw was the word of a brother who shortly ago upset me. I struggled with difficulty not to answer him and I asked God to take the bitterness from my soul. And see how his word became blood in my mouth. Spitting, I cast out with it the affliction in my heart.”

            • I am sorry that you don’t get it.

              Do I ever stop myself from blurting out a response that I later regret? Not nearly often enough.

              When I have restrained myself, do I then pray that God removes from my heart the bitterness I may feel? Or do I choose to dwell on it, nurturing the bitterness? Usually the latter, I am ashamed to say.

              I need to learn from Abba Achillas’ example.

              • I took the saying as meaning rather than returning an evil word received for an evil word I deliver — I kept silent and held it in my mouth– I hurt myself rather than another– therefore I bled because of the wound I took upon myself so I would not inflict a wound on my enemy. That is how Christ lived, isn’t it?

                • An excellent interpretation that I hadn’t thought of. Thank you. If only you were following my blog and could post such comments

  15. Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence

    Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

    American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time that they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

    read moreat:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html?emc=edit_na_20170214&nl=breaking-news&nlid=18604707&ref=cta&_r=0

  16. “Two fellow ascetics struggled in the Thebaid desert. But they were young and inexperienced and the devil set a great many snares for them.

    “The younger one once was warring fervently against the flesh. It was thus that he lost his composure and patience and said resolutely to the older ascetic: “I cannot endure any longer; I am going to return to the world.”

    “The older one, terribly distraught by the temptation which had befallen his brother, tried to constrain him.

    “I will not let you leave here, to waste your efforts and to lose your purity.”

    “But there was no convincing him!

    “I am not staying,” he said. “I am leaving. I will taste of everything and then we will see. If you want, come with me and we will either both return, or I will stay forever in the world.”

    “The older brother, not knowing what to do, went to seek counsel from an elder who was their neighbor.

    “Go with him,” he told him after he had heard of the situation. “I do not think that God, for the sake of your efforts, will let him be lost.”

    “And so the two fellow ascetics set off together to go down into the city. But just as they got near, the one who had been tempted suddenly said to his brother: “Suppose I were to fulfill my desire. What would I gain by it? Come, my brother, let us return to our solitude.”

    “The older brother looked at him with confusion and could not believe his ears. Then he remembered the words of the holy elder: “God will see your efforts and will not let him come to harm.”

    “And, indeed, the brother was relieved from his powerful battle and the two returned happily to their cells.”

    • “Two fellow ascetics struggled in the Thebaid desert. But they were young and inexperienced and the devil set a great many snares for them.

      “The younger one once was warring fervently against the flesh. It was thus that he lost his composure and patience and said resolutely to the older ascetic: “I cannot endure any longer; I am going to return to the world.”

      “The older one, terribly distraught by the temptation which had befallen his brother, tried to constrain him.

      “I will not let you leave here, to waste your efforts and to lose your purity.”

      “But there was no convincing him!

      “I am not staying,” he said. “I am leaving. I will taste of everything and then we will see. If you want, come with me and we will either both return, or I will stay forever in the world.”

      “The older brother, not knowing what to do, went to seek counsel from an elder who was their neighbor.

      “Go with him,” he told him after he had heard of the situation. “I do not think that God, for the sake of your efforts, will let him be lost.”

      “And so the two fellow ascetics set off together to go down into the city. But just as they got near, the one who had been tempted suddenly said to his brother: “Suppose I were to fulfill my desire. What would I gain by it? Come, my brother, let us return to our solitude.”

      “The older brother looked at him with confusion and could not believe his ears. Then he remembered the words of the holy elder: “God will see your efforts and will not let him come to harm.”

      “And, indeed, the brother was relieved from his powerful battle and the two returned happily to their cells.”

      • “Two fellow ascetics struggled in the Thebaid desert. But they were young and inexperienced and the devil set a great many snares for them.

        “The younger one once was warring fervently against the flesh. It was thus that he lost his composure and patience and said resolutely to the older ascetic: “I cannot endure any longer; I am going to return to the world.”

        “The older one, terribly distraught by the temptation which had befallen his brother, tried to constrain him.

        “I will not let you leave here, to waste your efforts and to lose your purity.”

        “But there was no convincing him!

        “I am not staying,” he said. “I am leaving. I will taste of everything and then we will see. If you want, come with me and we will either both return, or I will stay forever in the world.”

        “The older brother, not knowing what to do, went to seek counsel from an elder who was their neighbor.

        “Go with him,” he told him after he had heard of the situation. “I do not think that God, for the sake of your efforts, will let him be lost.”

        “And so the two fellow ascetics set off together to go down into the city. But just as they got near, the one who had been tempted suddenly said to his brother: “Suppose I were to fulfill my desire. What would I gain by it? Come, my brother, let us return to our solitude.”

        “The older brother looked at him with confusion and could not believe his ears. Then he remembered the words of the holy elder: “God will see your efforts and will not let him come to harm.”

        “And, indeed, the brother was relieved from his powerful battle and the two returned happily to their cells.”

  17. Joe, I don’t believe in the concept of “chosen ones”. That’s an elaborate story invented by man’s religion. But you are right about there being only one truth and one reality, which we all experience different aspects of, and why no one agrees on everything. But you can’t compare the facts of humanity’s basic needs with your belief in the afterlife, because this faith you have – as real as your brain perceives it to be – is still based on a story you’ve been taught. Food and water and dying, we all know firsthand.

    Probably the biggest thing you don’t seem to fathom here is that this is not about politics at all. DT is just a convenient, relatable pointer to the injustices and inequalities we are fighting for. He’s an attention grabber. Clearly it’s working.

    But let’s just stick with the facts. People right here, right now on this planet are in need of food, shelter, protection, love, mercy, justice, compassion – the list is endless. Are we called to care for our neighbors or is it better to point fingers and lecture to them about why they should believe in our stories?

      • “Then there was a woman who was suffering from cancer and, having heard of the reputation of Abba Longinos, decided to find him that he might restore her health. While she was looking for him here and there in the desert, she encountered an elderly monk cutting wood. She approached him and asked him where Abba Longinos stayed.

        “What do you want with him?” the monk asked. “I advise you not to go to him because he is not a good man … But maybe something is troubling you?”

        “The unfortunate woman then showed him an open sore which gave off an unbearable odor. The monk made the sign of the cross over her and told her: “Return to your home and God will heal you. Longinos cannot help you in anything.”

        “She left, receiving the words of the unknown monk with faith. By the time she reached her home, not a trace of her fearful illness remained. She later learned from the other brothers that the one who made her well in this strange way was Abba Longinos himself.”

    • Carmen, I like and agree with everything you said. I believe if we took care of all those needs the rest would take care of itself. I know, naive, but except as a child.. just saying. Thanks, Peace…….

    • “And see what Abba Moses says of prayer: “Take care to maintain deep in your heart cognizance of your sinful state, that your prayer might be acceptable. When you occupy your mind with your own sins, you will not have time to keep track of the faults of others.”

    • Hi Joe, sorry you took offense. I did not mean to imply anyone has any more special gift over another. I do not believe that at all. We just see things differently, which honestly, from my artistic viewpoint is a beautiful thing. Otherwise the world would be bland and flat, no dynamics. Like a symphony with all instruments playing just one note.

      It’s just so frustrating when things get reduced to politics and economics. I know that is our current model, the only one we know and believe will “fix” things but I’ve seen too much evidence of the same repetitious madness to have much faith in it as the ultimate solution any more. (And turning our backs on refugees does not lessen the threats of terrorism. The two issues are completely unrelated. I work with a refugee organization and know firsthand what the needs are, and what the concerns are not).

      But my point is, common ground. I agree that John P does seem a little obsessed with certain things, but it’s what’s in his heart. You can’t argue that. No one has to agree on his style or methods to legitimize his purpose, we all have our own unique role to play. And when we let our egos get in the way, when being right becomes more important than human connection, relationships crumble and any chance at progress on either “side” is gridlocked. Then we become completely unable to see that deep down, there are no sides!

      I appreciate your softened grip in our dialogue. It speaks of your sincerity.

      • “When I became a Catholic 20 years ago I was impressed by how there was no pressure to join and how respectful they were towards other religions and people who believe differently.”

        When I was born and raised catholic we were told that if we even entered another church we would burn in hell forever.
        Too bad they some weren’t so respectful of altar boys.

      • “The same Amma said: “Many live in the wilderness and behave as though they were in a town. The latter are wasting their time. It is possible to be a hermit in the mind while living among the masses; likewise, it is possible to be a hermit and live in the crowd of one’s own thoughts.”


      • “The same Amma said: “Many live in the wilderness and behave as though they were in a town. The latter are wasting their time. It is possible to be a hermit in the mind while living among the masses; likewise, it is possible to be a hermit and live in the crowd of one’s own thoughts.”


      • Hi Joe, I think we all share your frustrations no matter what “side” we’re on. But I believe we can always find common ground. IF we are willing to be open and a little vulnerable and truly listen to each other. And look, we’re doing it!

        I don’t think anyone is motivated by evil. Maybe it just appears that way because of experience and conditioning, which shapes what we like and don’t like, enforced by the rules we choose to follow. Respect is a must, absolutely. Deep down we all want the same things! We all want to feel safe and loved, freedom to worship as we choose, to be happy and live peacefully. The only things we’re divided on are the varying ideologies and their proposed answers to those goals.

        So maybe the trick to finding common ground, for you and me and John P and everyone in between, is to see past the words and labels, and into the pure motives of another. For example, we both have great respect and reverence for life, but it’s destruction runs in many directions. And we focus on different aspects of its preservation. You don’t like abortion and I don’t like pollution, or human tracking or domestic violence or whatever. This does not in any way, negate the other concerns. But no one can take it all on. Maybe, instead of spending precious time picking apart the other’s “faults” we just let people put their energies on the facets that they feel most passionate about and we stay focused on ours.

        No doubt this all takes serious work. Hard, gruelling, self-reflective, real, time consuming effort. And endless patience. But we are worth it.

  18. Wow, took a few weeks off of this blog…and no surprise the hate and anger has continued…The blog host who now says he is part of the resistance is down right sad. The resistance is smashing buildings, burning collages and hurling fire bombs at police officers….the resistance looks up to Madonna, who offered to take her teeth out and perform sexual actson anyone who voted for Hillary, the resistance has cheered on Ashley Judd who spoke of wet dreams and sexual intentions between a man and his daughter…I can only imagine the resistance if any of these acts or accusations were hurled against Obama or Hillary….those of us who disagreed with Obama did not march, burn, or spread so much hate…I have never seen such a group of hateful people. If this is what the democrat party has become then I am glad to not be a part of it…why is it that anyone who disagrees with the democrats is a hateful bigoted racist??? Why is it that someone who says he is a Preacher for all people only cares about those that agree with his political policies??? I follow alot of preachers online, and none of them promote such hate and anger….seems this blog has become a political blog and not a Christian blog…obviously my hope that this would turn back to a loving Christian blog was wasted….very sad. I only hope that the hate and anger you are harboring does not eat you up over the next four years to the point where you see nothing but the bad in all the do not agree with you and your political beliefs…if and when this turns back into a loving accepting non attacking non political blog maybe I would come back, but I truly cannot understand the promoting of such hate and anger from a Preacher!

    • “A young monk asked Abba Moses to give him a piece of useful advice.

      “Stay in your cell and your cell will teach you,” the wise elder answered.”

      • “When he was about to die, the holy Agathon remained in his bed motionless for three days, his eyes open and upturned towards heaven. On the third day, when he recovered some, his disciples, who had assembled around him, asked him to tell them where his soul was during all of that interval of time.

        “Before the judgment of God,” he murmured, trembling.

        “And you are afraid, Father?” the brothers asked with perplexity.

        “I tried, as best I could, to keep the laws of God all of my life. But I am a man. How do I know that I have pleased God?” the holy one responded with great pain.

        “You are not sure that your works were pleasing to God?” said the astonished monks.

        “Until I am before God, no,” answered the holy one, “for man judges with one standard and God with another.”

        “The brothers wanted to ask other things for the benefit of their souls, but the holy one nodded to them not to speak any further.

        “I am preoccupied,” his lips whispered.

        “His countenance began to shine! His disciples saw him leave this vain world for eternal life with the joy which one feels when he sets off to meet his most beloved acquaintance.”


        • “When he was about to die, the holy Agathon remained in his bed motionless for three days, his eyes open and upturned towards heaven. On the third day, when he recovered some, his disciples, who had assembled around him, asked him to tell them where his soul was during all of that interval of time.

          “Before the judgment of God,” he murmured, trembling.

          “And you are afraid, Father?” the brothers asked with perplexity.

          “I tried, as best I could, to keep the laws of God all of my life. But I am a man. How do I know that I have pleased God?” the holy one responded with great pain.

          “You are not sure that your works were pleasing to God?” said the astonished monks.

          “Until I am before God, no,” answered the holy one, “for man judges with one standard and God with another.”

          “The brothers wanted to ask other things for the benefit of their souls, but the holy one nodded to them not to speak any further.

          “I am preoccupied,” his lips whispered.

          “His countenance began to shine! His disciples saw him leave this vain world for eternal life with the joy which one feels when he sets off to meet his most beloved acquaintance.”


    • Dear LACS:

      What you’re describing looks not so much like resistance as insurrection. Can you document? Also, can you demonstrate categorically that in places where fires, etc. have occurred, that they were not initiated by police agent provocateurs?

      Blessings!

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  20. If you’re as fed up as I am with the trolls who come here to diss John, then please follow Gloriamarie’s example and mine and fill these pages with copies of her copy and pastes. Harass them with Gloriamarie’s quotes and clutter this page so much that they will get so frustrated they won’t come back!

    ———————————————————————

    “Two fellow ascetics struggled in the Thebaid desert. But they were young and inexperienced and the devil set a great many snares for them.

    “The younger one once was warring fervently against the flesh. It was thus that he lost his composure and patience and said resolutely to the older ascetic: “I cannot endure any longer; I am going to return to the world.”

    “The older one, terribly distraught by the temptation which had befallen his brother, tried to constrain him.

    “I will not let you leave here, to waste your efforts and to lose your purity.”

    “But there was no convincing him!

    “I am not staying,” he said. “I am leaving. I will taste of everything and then we will see. If you want, come with me and we will either both return, or I will stay forever in the world.”

    “The older brother, not knowing what to do, went to seek counsel from an elder who was their neighbor.

    “Go with him,” he told him after he had heard of the situation. “I do not think that God, for the sake of your efforts, will let him be lost.”

    “And so the two fellow ascetics set off together to go down into the city. But just as they got near, the one who had been tempted suddenly said to his brother: “Suppose I were to fulfill my desire. What would I gain by it? Come, my brother, let us return to our solitude.”

    “The older brother looked at him with confusion and could not believe his ears. Then he remembered the words of the holy elder: “God will see your efforts and will not let him come to harm.”

    “And, indeed, the brother was relieved from his powerful battle and the two returned happily to their cells.”

    • “If you stand by as your brother is slandered and do not support him against those who sinfully attack him, you, too, are an attacker,” a spiritual Father of our day counseled a priest”


  21. The end of days is upon! Surely Trump must be one of the Antichrists! So was Obama according to the many youtube videos that were put out there! We are all doomed! Nothing but gloom is ahead of us and we might as well prepare for the rapture. Surely the prophecy has been fulfilled and the the end and of days are upon us. We are all going to die at the hands of the reincarnation of a former World War II, madman. God help us all! The 62 million who voted for this person have put our souls in jeopardy!

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