Evangelicals, Stop Crediting God With Donald Trump’s Victory

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Dear Evangelical Preachers,

I think you believe you’re helping right now.
I think you believe you’re actually glorifying God.

I think you believe you’re somehow bolstering the Gospel.
I think you believe that you’re engineering some conversation-stopping, sanctified mic drop, by crediting God with Donald Trump’s ascension to the U.S. Presidency.

You’re not doing anyone of these things.

You’re not sharing the Good News of Jesus.
You’re not evangelizing.
You’re not making disciples.
You’re not helping.

You’re making from the pulpit and platform, the greatest case for Atheism you could ever make.

You’re aligning God with an ignorant, petulant, narcissistic bully.
You’re putting God’s rubber stamp on unprecedented racism, bigotry, and violence.
You’re attributing to God, the most despicable treatment of women, the greatest intolerance toward the marginalized, the least compassion for the hurting.
In other words, you’re assassinating the character of Jesus in an effort to rub non-Christian’s noses in it.

Crediting Donald Trump’s win to “God” is the best conceivable argument for someone rejecting faith.

If God is responsible for the unbridled vulgarity, the viciousness toward people of color, the utter disregard for diversity that the President has so continually displayed—you can keep God.

If God sanctions someone like Trump to the highest place of leadership we have—you can have that God.

If God is that partisan, God is not a God who “so loved the world”, but One who has contempt for most of it.

If you’re asking me to agree that a God who is love, can also be a God who votes Trump, you can stop right now because that’s laughable and ludicrous. 

Fortunately, I know God isn’t responsible for this disaster:

God didn’t campaign for Donald Trump.
God didn’t fail to report on the sexual assault allegations against him.
God didn’t give incendiary sermons.

God didn’t hack into our databases.
God didn’t generate fake news stories.
God didn’t suppress voters.
God didn’t refuse to educate himself on the issues.
God didn’t reject experience for celebrity.
God didn’t have his racism emboldened.
God didn’t manufacture hatred for Hillary Clinton.
God didn’t excuse sexual assault for a Supreme Court seat.
God didn’t choose party over country.
God didn’t stay home on Election Day.

I think God watched it all and wept.

It’s rather telling that the same God you’re crediting for Donald Trump now, seems to have had nothing to do with the past 8 years of Barack Obama. Guess God was offline or sleeping during those two terms.

Preacher, there is nothing to be gained by using the President as supposed evidence of God’s work in the world. It bears no good fruit. It has no redemptive value.

All it does is pour salt into the gaping wounds of marginalized communities who feel threatened and vulnerable right now. It says to people of color and Muslims and the LGBTQ community and women, that God is not for them. It confirms for those already viewing Christians as all hypocritical, dangerous, and self-serving—that they are correct in this assumption.

You’re wasting your platform, failing your calling, and squandering an audience with millions of people by giving God credit for a madman’s success.

Stop it. 

Stop passing the buck to God. 

 

 

 

 

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376 thoughts on “Evangelicals, Stop Crediting God With Donald Trump’s Victory

  1. If God chose Trump to be President, then He also chose Obama. He also chose Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-Un and Vladimir Putin.

    God is responsible for Roe v Wade, and God is also reaponsible for nothing being done to overturn it over four decades despite countless promises. God hasn’t done a single thing to stop abortion, so apparently He’s OK with it.

  2. Man is in control far more than they give God credit for. If Donald Trump’s Electoral College victory is something from God, then God has hostility towards those who are not white, rich, and male. Too often, “God is in control” when man can do something about it is an abdication of responsibility. It is not a surrender to God, but to a higher ranking person.

    Donald Trump ran his campaign by targeting a specific group of people and stoking their fears and directing them against Muslims and Latinos. He also ran his campaign on myths (i.e. decimation of the US armed forces despite being powerful) and blank checks that he cannot cash (keeping manufacturing jobs and reviving the coal industry). When some white racist groups gave their endorsements, neither he nor his campaign rejected them. This gave racists a sense of validation.

    Evangelical Christianity is not about Jesus: It is a fusion of capitalism and nationalism that has a cross as decoration to make it look like it is Christian.

    • Dear Tim W:

      Donald Trump’s manufactured victory arises from the confluence of census information, gerrymandering [elections work SO much better when politicians can pick voters], vetting of any independent thought, owned candidates, slogans that divide, disorient and confuse, choreographed campaigns awash with money, and more.

      A victory by Senator Clinton would mean much the same thing.

      Your last paragraph is brilliant and should be sounded far and wide.

      • Dear Joe Catholic:

        If you’re unprepared or unwilling to be cognizant of the history US bourgeois parties share around such issues as I name — and that list is not exhaustive — we really have nothing to discuss.

        • Dear Joe Catholic:

          Moreover, the last census was in 2010, which Mr. Trump missed by six years. Nevertheless, those and other criticisms generally stand for elections in the US.

  3. The truth is out. According to Bill Clinton the credit goes to angry white men for the election of Donald Trump. Which means, of course, that prophet John P voted for Trump.

  4. John P. has demonstrated more virtue in this one post than the entire combined output of all of Evangelical Christianity over the last year. I still remember thinking when Trump first won the GOP nomination that the Democrats had it locked up because the Evangelicals would never get behind such an obviously morally repugnant individual. Boy, did they prove me wrong.

    • Dear Paul:

      Who would have expected the political attack/racket to which we were subjected? With unprecedented involvement from the intelligence/military community, Sen. Clinton’s e-mail fiasco, ongoing revelations of sexual abuse and now, accusations of foreign manipulation – what could prepare us for this. Again – who would have expected it?

      When a fortnight before Nov 8, it came out that Obama’s signature domestic policy [Obamacare] faced double-digit rate increases in 2017, some had a foreboding sense that ‘that’s it.’

      The best thing to come from this is that at last, some begin now to see US political process itself as a fraud retaining no meaningful relationship to the population.

      As the Orthodox ‘Church’ was the echo-chamber of Tzar Nicholas’ government, so with Evangelical ‘Christianity’ in our own time. It is the channel connecting raw, political sewage to the West Wing.

      By in large, Evangelical ‘Christianity’ is in a pre-converted condition and is untouched by the Gospel.

      • Are you British or Australian? No American in his or her right mind would ever use the noun “fortnight” in writing or speaking. It is just not done here. You could wait years to see that word in American writing and speech.

        • Dear Charles:

          Guilty as charged. However also a naturalized US citizen. As an aside, 6 months ago, I purchased a dishwasher from a young man [US born] who used the term. As arrangements for transport were being made, he said that he throws up such words to see if people are actually listening …

    • Dear Joe Catholic:

      Not sure if you’re replying to my post. Maybe it’s my browser but the hierarchical order doesn’t always work on my end.

      In the event that you are replying to my post, did I say that Senator Clinton was a better or poorer choice for Christians? It doesn’t sound like me! With neither bourgeois party putting a candidate of integrity on their convention floors, I acted accordingly. Why would I consent to be retained as a political hostage to childish partisan malfeasance? This ‘election’ was a political attack on the working class. As a Christian, I HAD no ‘choice’ in it. I voted accordingly.

      You didn’t vote for policy or leader. With all others who did vote, you supported continuance of the malfeasance which puts us all on the road to world war and revolution. You voted on whether WW III would Russia [Democrat] or China [Republic] first. My ‘vote’ is one voice discrediting the entire political equation, and calling for the abandonment of the same, precisely as the ruling class has already abandoned the working class to its own destiny. Reciprocity is cool.

      NO to Republicans!
      NO to Democrats!
      NO to Big Money!

      YES to the separation of Corporation and State!

      • Dear Joe Catholic:

        Few people do have a clue as to from where I come. And the last time I declared myself, I was told that 1] I had no idea what I was saying, and that 2] I was a suspected troll.

        I’m not going to tell you a ‘couple of policies’ I would like to see enacted. I’m going to direct you to the entire program.

        http://tinyurl.com/humqr67

        Do I expect anyone to read through all 148 paragraphs? No.

        But of those who take 75 seconds to page down and read the section headings, at least some will find something which resonates with them.

  5. I have to say that I am continually disgusted at the lack of comment moderation on this site. “Joe Catholic” should have had this access to this site blocked a long time ago for being inflammatory and a troll. If JP really wanted to create a “table for all” (and by “table for all he means” “everyone who agrees with everything I have to say and don’t question me on anything, especially the authenticity of my motIves or my sincerity, and no white evangelicals, because you kicked me out of the club and I’m still mad”) he would understand that some guests do not want everyone to enjoy their meal at the table, and want to circle the attention to them. JP has prepared a table, and trolls like Joe Catholic are throwing dinner rolls and spitting food in people’s faces. Bad table manners should get you kicked out of the table, bad Internet manners should get you blocked. It did for me anyway, but that’s white male fragility for you.
    Now to Mr. “Joe Catholic” (who I secretly suspect is JP just seeking to drive up site traffic). You seem to find the act of abortion as a non negotiatble, and deal breaker for you when it comes to government decisons. So, it goes to say that you are opposed to them. But, if your wife or daughter were to be sexually assaulted, or one of them had a life threatening complication, do you think it is fair to ask them to carry their baby to term? If your wife had an affair that resulted in a pregnancy could you love a child she sired with another man? If you can, great. But, all that stuff aside, the sooner you and the religious right get it figured out that abortion will NEVER BE OVERTURNED IN THIS COUNTRY, the better. Republicans just dangle that issue and “religious freedom” in front of you like a carrot in front of a horse to keep them distracted from how they have no intention of improving their economic status, and if they overturned Roe V Wade, they’d have to actually do some work. So why don’t you just do us all a favor, leave this blog (unless Pavlovitz grows a pair and blocks you himself, I was blocked on all his personal social media for way less) and go follow Matt Walsh.

    • so…in your mind, the act of censure somehow strengthens your argument…
      I suspect, John P. understands and trusts readers to discern and make up their own minds as to what to believe and more importantly – how to best judge comments and positions.
      What you really want is only one voice to be heard with no dissent permitted.
      Yes, inside every liberal there is tyrant trying to pop out.

    • Joe Catholic – see Robert J. Spitzer, a Catholic Priest, writer and past President of Gonzaga University who I suspect you would enjoy immensely.
      If you can, get his book; “Ten Universal Principles”. In chapter three, he outlines the legal fallacies with Roe vs Wade.

    • Joe, no matter how much you add adjectives to the nouns there is nothing wrong with calling a spade, a spade.

      Pavlovitz is direct and I like that.

      Racism, homophobia, xenophobia and moral hypocrisy found in people needs to be flushed out.

      • It is illogical to say something is disordered but not sinful.

        That is funky apologetics.

        Lets deal with reality.

        A loving faithful relationship between two men does no harm.

        I’ve lived and socialized in the gay community and I know many same sex couples who have lived for years in a committed relationship. They have done no harm to themselves or to others by being in a relationship. If anything, their relationship has been a benefit to them. They grew in devotion to each other, are connected to community and forged stability in their lives. Just like a good marriage does they have had good marriages.

        But, harm has been done to them through the fear filled actions of homophobic people.

        I want to emphasize

        fear filled

        not hate filled.

        you are lead by irrational fears.

        I think it’s time to stop using the word hate and tell it for what it is

        people are fearful.

        I understand that.

        The environment of fear is created by those who misunderstand what being LGBT is.

        We are not disordered in the way we love we are human just like you.

        We can give and receive love in the same way you can, through touch, kisses, holding hands, bodies in union, limbs entangled, feeling the softness of skin the warmth and closeness which helps us feel alive and cherished.

        There is nothing else like that when you are in love.

        You are afraid of abuse but that is not what we experience when we make love.

        We experience the giving of mutual joy through sexual intimacy just like straight couples do.

          • Still, you spun it.

            I don’t agree with how you phrased the question. One does not practice homosexuality.

            Our sexuality is how we are wired to love. It is how we fit with someone.

            When we find the right helpmeet and partner in life we have as much a right to choose them for marriage as anyone.

          • Please. Eat Joe alive on behalf of most all of us here. Your reward may not be great in Heaven—but it sure will be here on this blog. Merry Christmas to you.

        • You are relying on texts which do not translate the words properly and a context which did not understand the world or nature, as well as, we do today.

          • It is subject to change because men in organized religion voted for things to be that way and still have all of these questions under consideration.

            Man made doctrines

            Man made churches

            which is why we have so many denominations.

            because men cannot agree

            and men stubbornly think they know better what God thinks

            which is why we have division.

            such a waste of time

            and still same sex relationships are blossoming everyday.

            A look, a smile, a shy
            “Hello, nice to meet you. ”

            you cannot legislate that,

            Sorry, Joe, the church has no control over it.

            • Do you know the reason why the catholic church instituted an Inquisition which used methods of torture on people?

              To control them.

              To force them to believe their doctrine

              because they feared heresy.

              and having heretical congregants meant people would go against their man made doctrines and not go to service, not tithe, not pay for lighting a candle.

              That is what men do when they are powerless

              when they lose influence.

              they torment and hound people.

      • Joe,

        God’s nature is love.

        So I think God can understand love more than anything because he is love.

        I think it is love God acknowledges when we he sees two gay men making love.

        We see the physical act

        God sees the love being expressed.

        He sees beyond the outward appearance and looks at the heart.

        • No, fornicators don’t call it making love they call it sleeping around, a one night stand and all sorts of other things. And there are many LGBT people who don’t want that, they want marriage.

          • The reality is two men can have a loving sexual relationship within the confines of a marriage union.

            It’s not adultery its faithfulness, which is what the Bible says God asks of us,

            to be faithful.

            Marriage is a sacrifice. There is pain in marriage a giving of the self, a denying of ones needs to fulfill the needs of the others.

            I did that whenever I bit my tongue because my spouse was hardheaded and always needed a little more time to soften on a thing before we could move forward.

            Overtime it was thing she knew I did because I respected and loved her, and she appreciated it. It drew her closer to me because she knew I allowed her that space.

            and make up sex is always the best way to bring us closer together again no matter how mad we were about something, sex was the vulnerable place in which our relationship thrived and was made stronger, because when you are in a marriage sex/making love has a greater purpose than just a pleasurable act, it is a bonding together of two people in trust for their good. This good beneficial thing is experienced by two men or two women in marriage, as well.

            • Saying there is no same sex marriage is like saying the sky isn’t blue. You are in denial. There are LGBTQ christians in the catholic church. And some of them are having sex but you just don’t know it because they aren’t telling anyone. Why?because of the denial.
              Dishonesty is worse in my books than being in a marriage and coming clean with who you are.

    • Joe, you are given plenty of space to air your grievances. This is more of a turkey shoot than a safe place to build relationships and forge avenues of understanding.

      • Which is why we need to make the table more inclusive, more diverse, more variety of perspective, we need balance rather than polarized debate and pushing a singular issue.

      • Joe is not interested in building relationships and forging understanding. He just wants to disrupt this blog as much as possible and destroy the blog owner’s ministry.

    • Ebony, too bad you had a bad experience. This table is very similar to our supper table growing up. We had food fights, verbal fights and stole off each others plates. Sometimes we made our mom cry.

      I think the table is messy right now. Not to say it should stay that way but who knows, we were kids and now we are grown up those sort of things don’t happen anymore. Well, except for the arguments and making fun of each other.

      But, I agree on one thing Joe does look down on us all with an air of superiority that rivals Eustace Scrubb but there is redemption for all. Peace .

  6. More atheist= WINNING !!!!!! 25% in the USA and GROWING FAST!
    2nd chronicles 15 13 the core of christianity no different than ISIS. History shows well what happens when indigenous people refuse to worship your “god”, think Native American Indians. YOUR kind want theocracy and this to be claimed a christian nation to be ruled by the laws of the bible. If your “god” is so mighty and powerful then why must he be SOLD to me at my front door? Why does your “god” need to advertise in my mail? Why does your “maker of everything” need to give away gift cards, TV’s, vacations, cars and guns for people to believe in him? Why do I have to support the 450,000 churches in the USA who pay NOTHING in taxes to help the WHOLE community? Religion is the oldest and most profitable business ever invented by MEN to control the ignorant masses and fund their 1% lifestyle.

    • Hi Scott. I am a Christian. Thank you for your comments. Actually, the so-called Christians you cite are NOT the core of the Christian faith. They are a minority group within worldwide Christianity that just happens to be highly concentrated by population here in the United States—unfortunately and so sad to say. The American Christian fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals are in various combinations:

      Theocratic minded (USA is a Christian Nation)
      Taliban and ISIS minded
      Killed most American Indians west of Cumberland Gap, KY
      Institute Biblical Law as U.S. Legal System
      Knock on Your Front Door or Solicit Money by Mail
      Fat Preachers selling Jesus as a Commodity for Money
      Love Guns and the Idea of Killing Guilty Life

      This list is actually much longer and far darker.

      However, I think it would be fair to say that most Christians around the world today do not subscribe to the items on a list like this. The Roman Catholic Church and the mainline American churches (United Methodist Church, Episcopal Church, Lutheran Church, etc.) DO NOT subscribe to this dark and evil list. So, if as an atheist you insist on being angry at Christians, I think it would be most appropriate for you to focus on where the real problem is—the Christian fundamentalist and conservative evangelical churches such as the Southern Baptist Convention, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Churches, etc. Those are the places that BREED MILLIONS of authoritarian, extremist, nutjob people who dare to call themselves “Christians.” If you grew up as a child in one of their churches, I am not at all surprised that you are now an atheist. In my opinion, even young Jesus himself would have been at some significant risk of becoming an atheist in one of these fundie Hell holes.

      Happy Holidays to you and your family.

      • No Brian. He’s talking about you and the other members of your club. He would probably not even be an atheist if it were not for people like you who drive people like him through the door to the atheist club.

    • Romans 13:1-7 is foundational for understanding proper civic attitudes: “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”

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  8. Romans 13:1-7 is foundational for understanding proper civic attitudes: “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”

    • I agree, what I find interesting is many will quote this and disagree when it comes to Obama. I think it becomes a double-standard based on bias, unfortunately.

  9. There are preachers out there like Jeremiah Johnson from Behold the Man ministries that prophesied Trump as God’s Trumpet. That Trump was used to expose the corruption in both the democratic and republican parties. This ‘prophet’ is now prophesying after a 30 day fast that Trump will be used to expose the corruption in the world. That people are cold to him and because they are cold to him God is going to set record cold temperatures and snow in the US because people are cold towards Trump. Here is what I want to see, such people repent from deceiving many. When you question men like this, they say you’re coming from a wrong spirit. Such is the case withe Jeremiah Johnson of Lakeland Florida’s behold the man ministries.

  10. Every person who says, “Suck it, libs,” calls anyone who didn’t vote for Trump “crybabies” ruins the testimony of all Christians. Every accusation that people who have legitimate fears related to a Trump presidency (along with a Republican Congress and at least one Supreme Court nominee) are “whiners” only pushes people further from anything resembling Christianity.

    There’s an expression I often heard when I still attended Christian churches: “You[r behavior] may be the only Bible that non-Christians ever read.” After “reading” all of the nastiness being spewed by Christians online after Trump’s election, why in the world would anyone want to consider becoming a Christian? Why would any decent human beings consider calling themselves Christian when decent, loving people are clearly outnumbered (roughly 80% of evangelical voters voted for Trump) by the hateful ranks of Trump voters?

    It’s no wonder there are more and more people becoming “nones,” if this is what 80% of evangelical Christians have to offer “the lost.”

  11. John P Writes:m “You’re aligning God with an ignorant, petulant, narcissistic bully. You’re putting God’s rubber stamp on unprecedented racism, bigotry, and violence. You’re attributing to God, the most despicable treatment of women, the greatest intolerance toward the marginalized, the least compassion for the hurting.”

    Hey John, you are parroting the talking points of the whole HRC campaign. And your accusatorial, demeaning rant about the character of our president elect is far from Christlike. You use the strongest language to describe someone you only know about through the media. Have you met Mr Trump? Didn’t think so. “unprecedented racism”? He has many well known blacks, who say different. “Most despicable treatment of women?” Check your facts before you rant. He has more women on his staff mgmt than most corps, AND they make same as men in same positions. Your rant is unbecoming of a minister of Christ, and I find it hard to imagine Jesus would approve of the way you went about this – though it does get you views. BTW Did you rant about any of HRC lies? Did her PROVEN lies and law breaking fit into your blog’s “Stuff that needs to be said” theme. Don’t know if you had or not, as I haven’t perused your back dated blog, but if I was a betting man, I would say NOT. Can you point to me to your blogs where you ranted about any of HRC’s short comings and LAW BREAKING. Finally, What about Romans 13:1 buddy?

    • God is bigger than anything you or I can throw at Him…..He used King Nebuchadnezzar to bring to pass what He had ordained…tell me why He can’t use Donald Trump? Don’t try and limit God..

  12. God is bigger than anything you or I can throw at Him…..He used King Nebuchadnezzar to bring to pass what He had ordained…tell me why He can’t use Donald Trump? Don’t try and limit God..

    • Trump has assembled an Evangelical Executive Advisory Board…..First, notice who is not named. All of evangelicalism’s leading intellects are distinctly absent. The presidents of Fuller, Trinity, Gordon-Conwell, Dallas, and Asbury theological seminaries aren’t there, nor are the current presidents or executive directors of any evangelical denomination. Pastors Bill Hybels and Rick Warren are not there. Jack Hayford is not there. No Vineyard pastor is there. There is no representative from the governing board of the National Association of Evangelicals.

      To repeat: The alliance representing some 40 evangelical denominations and a slew of churches and individual members is not at the tab

      In essence he has assembled those evangelicals with no balance and love the seductive illusion of power. Not one brain among them. In essence, this is not about limiting God, but about exposing corruption among those who are deceived.

  13. When I hear someone who claims to be a Christian, has the audacity to say they voted for Trump because of his policies or how they think he will govern is like me supporting Pontius Pilate in support of Rome. God gave us free will, to choose good or evil period.

  14. Dear John, don’t know if I should address you as Postor John or not as I do not know if the title is correct. Honestly I hope not.

    Please do not tell me you are promoting hate among your congregation if you are indeed a Pastor.

    John, I’m sorry but I give God Glory and Credit for everything good that happens in my life and that I see happening good in anyone’s life. In my opinion the best choice for President was made. Hillary was merely a spinoff of Obama. Surely you don’t side with them. If so, your disdain for Israel is as twisted and ungodly as theirs.

    You call for Pastors to stop giving God credit for a Trump win? I say to you, stop judging the heart of someone you know nothing about.

    I hope you are not thinking that God is looking down on you and happy about your article.

    If you like I can furnish you with scripture concerning spreading gossip, repeating lies and sewing discord among the breathen. But if in fact you are a Pastor I would assume you already know these scriptures which saddens me that you would know better but continue on with violating them.

    In Christ,

    Pastor Brooks

    • Dear Mr. Brooks,

      What makes you think Obama or Hillary were not appointed by God as well? Romans 13….. What you are speaking about here is everything that is wrong with evangelicalism today. The confirmation bias is ridiculous.

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