Donald Trump Doesn’t Really Matter To Donald Trump Supporters

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I finally figured out why this is all so frustrating. Now I know why I’m so tired.

The more this Presidential campaign drags on, the more it’s clear that Donald Trump is irrelevant to many of his very supporters.

Nothing about him really matters to them:

It doesn’t matter how grossly uninformed he is on the most fundamental issues.

It doesn’t matter how reckless and impulsive and immature he acts.

It doesn’t matter how fast and loose he is with the facts or details on any given topic.

It doesn’t matter that his PolitiFact truthfulness rating is somewhere just below pathological liar and Pinocchio.

It doesn’t matter how corrupt his business practices have been.

It doesn’t matter that he is nearly devoid of substantive policies regarding crime, education, the economy, foreign policy, or terrorism.

It doesn’t matter how vile or disrespectful he is toward women, Muslims, veterans, immigrants, or the LGBTQ community.

It doesn’t matter that he is unable to engage in anything resembling coherent, nuanced conversation on complex matters of race, economics, immigration, or sexuality.

It doesn’t matter that his temperament is more suited to a WWE wrestler than the Leader of the Free World.

It doesn’t matter that he seems to be completely unaware how the Presidency or our government actually works.

These things are of little consequence, because many Donald Trump supporters just want to vote for Donald Trump—period.

It’s a decision they made at some point many months ago, and they don’t care to let reality influence this decision now, no how terrible that reality is. Truth will simply not get in the way of how they feel, and so they aren’t at all interested in delving into his past or critiquing his daily embarrassments or talking about what his Presidency would actually look like. Fact-checking him is unnecessary. Demanding accuracy or consistency is of no value. Asking for decency isn’t on the docket.

Whether Trump’s supporters believe he represents a loud middle finger to the political establishment, or some renegade cowboy coming in to shoot up all the bad guys, or whether he simply makes them feel better about the stuff they’re afraid of, they’re going to vote for him regardless of how terribly he acts or what disgusting things he says. The content of his character, the nonexistence of a plan, and the lack of any relevant experience governing all seem unimportant. He talks like some 40’s movie gangster while tossing around verbal molotov cocktails of nationalism and doom, with a splash of Jerry Springer and a twist of Old Testament Angry God: America as imagined by a comic book super villain—and this is all fine.

And that’s why arguing with people who want to vote for Donald Trump is fruitless and why I refuse to do it any longer.

When someone chooses something without reason as their primary motivation, trying to use reason to convince them to discard it is a fool’s game. All the cogent, rational arguments in the world will fall on deaf ears because those ears are permanently closed. 

Making fun of Trump supporters or questioning their character serves no valuable purpose either, other than to cause them to dig in their already dug-in heels as you fight in vain against the incoming tide.

Trump himself proved prophetic early in the year when he said he could murder someone in broad daylight and not lose his base. It’s one of the few truthful things he’s said since beginning his campaign—and unfortunately, also one of the saddest.

I’ve written several times as to why my personal convictions as a Christian and Trump’s conduct make voting for him an impossibility, and though I’ve made numerous invitations, I’ve still never received a coherent faith-based argument from a single Christian as to why they are voting for him. I’m no longer letting that concern me and I’ve stopped waiting because in my heart I don’t believe that such an argument exists—and I think they know it. They just want it to be so, and so they’re voting as if it is so.

Ultimately, I understand that many Trump supporters are motivated primarily by fear, and fear is a heck of a drug to get out of your system once you’re hooked on it. There’s no way someone can kick that kind of fear cold turkey and likely not between now and November.

When your kids are afraid of the dark, you can turn on the light and show them everything around them is exactly the same, but if they’re convinced the Bogeyman is real, they’ll be terrified when the lights go off again. Donald Trump has convinced much of his base that the Bogeyman is at the door and hoping the border and taking their jobs and stealing their opportunity, and coming for their money, their guns, their freedom, and their children. They can’t see the reality no matter how much you shine a light on it all. Most of them aren’t bad, stupid, or hateful people—just really terrified people. They aren’t the enemy, the fear that Donald Trump has leveraged in them is.

And so this is really about the rest of us.

It’s about those of us who see through the hissing hyperbole and the brash tough guys antics and the ever louder and dumber rhetoric, and who can see that beneath it all, that the emperor is butt naked.

The redemptive act in times like these isn’t to attack or argue or try to badger people into changing their minds. It isn’t to meet insult with insult or venom with venom or threat with threat.

The redemptive act in the face of this kind of fear is to live and to vote as a direct and unflinching response to that fear; to nullify it and render it helpless and show it for the paper tiger it is.

We who are unafraid need to engage the political process, because if we do, the lights will come on and the bogeyman will vanish for good—and maybe then we’ll all be able to get some sleep.

138 thoughts on “Donald Trump Doesn’t Really Matter To Donald Trump Supporters

      • Stan, I don’t run in the circles of the “Hilary Bashers”, but their rhetoric seems to be by rote. It is about her character. Hilary is characterized as dishonest, lying, and deceiving person. Hilary is synonymous with “the system.” The supporters of Trump are not really saying yes to Trump. They are saying no to the system-to Hilary.

        • We must change the status quo. Is Mr. Trump the ultimate answer? Of course not. But remember the street definition of insanity – continue doing the same thing, etc.

          Personally, I refuse to vote for an incumbent. Until elected public service goes back to being a service rather than a career, the country is headed the wrong direction. My opinion only, but my personal conviction.

          • Dave.

            I like that, ‘service’ not a career.

            Gone are the days when Govt workers (Civil Servants!) accepted smaller wages, in return for honorable work, and a reliable retirement.

            Now Left-leaning, bloated Govt allows tenure & over payment of poor performance. A lose/lose situation.

          • And yet the majority of “christians” will continue to vote for “their” incumbent, and not see any irony or cognitive dissonance in all of that. Which is why the do-nothing house will most likely remain Republican after the election. Everyone hates “other people’s” incumbents, but their own deadbeat? He’s just fine…

          • Nicole, I don’t think I know, so may I please ask? Are you being facetious or sarcastic when you say “Because Trump will handle our nukes with calm and thoughtful consideration?” Thank you

    • We clearly didn’t read the same blog post.

      “She’s just as bad!” is not a valid justification for all the negatives to Trump, whether it’s what he’s said, done or doesn’t know. That’s the mentality I would honestly expect from a child. “She did it too!”

      I haven’t seen anyone arguing that Hillary isn’t the greatest choice, where I’ve seen a lot of people arguing that Trump is like the second coming of Jesus himself in the form of a presidential candidate.

      • I won’t vote for either. But I can see the hypocrisy of the whole game.

        What Christians should understand is that the USA, like every other nation, is within the Dominion of Darkness. We are not of that Dominion as Christians. Rather, we reside in the Kingdom of the Son God loves.

        That means that we wrestle not against each other. But to take a side is doing just that.

        When Eve ate, her eyes were opened to good and evil. But since her spirit died, she was left with the sinful nature, which cannot know the difference.

        Saint Paul thought he was doing good by persecuting the church or The Way.
        Peter thought it was good to tell Jesus not to go to the cross.

        The left thinks it good to vote for Clinton. The right feels the same regarding Trump. Both are deceived, because they have forgotten that Jesus’ Kingdom is not of this world.

        So if the author wants to bash either candidate, he might not realize that he’s doing exactly what our enemy desires who is the god of this world.

        If you believe that your vote matters, I tell you that it only does so within the darkness. Only faith, only belief in Jesus matters.

        What does it matter if we gain the world should we lose our souls? And no amount of perceived goodness, in the end, matters at all.

        This is good news Christians. We can rest while the world scurries. We can rejoice while the world gnashes it’s teeth against itself. We can love those on either side of the political spectrum while the world rejects opposing views.

        • For quite some time now I have been weighing our politicians who tell us they are Christians by their actions. The yardstick I use to measure them is the Prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus.


          Does the politician show hospitality to strangers?


          Does the politician help the poor?


          Does the politician feed the hungry?


          Does the politician care for the sick?


          Does the politician clothe the naked?


          Does the politician provide for those at the moment are unable to provide for themselves?


          Does the politician love neighbors?


          Does the politician avoid worshipping the god of an idolatry, such as money?


          if the answer is yes, I support that politician. If the answer is no, then I don’t.


          After all, the Prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus tell us this is how we love God with every fiber of our being. We have also been told this by the Early Church Fathers, the Didache, the many saints who have lived before us.


          All of them teach us that if a believer is truly filled with the love of God, the love the believer and God share must flow out of the believer’s very pores to love all of humanity and to serve humanity.

          Hillary Clinton said recently “I know it’s not popular, but we really need more kindness and empathy for one another.”


          She is not perfect, none of us are. But she appeals to our better nature and reminds us that our country’s strength is our goodness. Our greatest leaders have always inspired us to be our best selves. I pray we will keep this tradition.


          Kindness and empathy are two principle ways love between God and believer shower other people with love. Yes, our greatest leaders have inspired us to be our best selves. We need those kinds of leaders.
          
I cannot support any politician or person running for office who demonstrates bigotry, discrimination, gynophobia, homophobia, intolerance of that which is different, intolerance of those who are different from one’s self, intolerance of those who disagree with one’s self, misogyny, racism, transgenderphobia, and xenophobia.


          I can’t support such people because such people do not love their neighbors as themselves. I can’t support such people because God is Love and perfect love casts out all fear.


          I will never say such people are not Christians. There is too much finger-pointing, name-calling, too many people claiming to know who is or is not a Christian. Many too many. I prefer to say I am not God, I do not have the mind of God. God knows who is truly one who loves God with every fiber of their being.

          All I can say is that I know what I believe the Bible to be telling me and I support those politicians who tell me they are Christians who demonstrate that they believe as I what the Bible teaches. I have supported politicians who are not Christians because they hold the same values be they Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish.

          The Golden Rule, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” dates back to the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, two thousand years before the Incarnation. It seems to me a good basic value against which we can measure our politicians.


          I know which of the two Presidential nominees measure the highest on my yardstick.

            • What a bizarre interpretation. Did I say anything about pointing fingers? No, I did not. In a response to what you wrote, I offered you how I personally choose which candidates for whom I will vote. I thought of it as a companion piece to yours.

              But, hey, you wanna find fault where none is intended, I can’t stop you.

              • PLEASe jUst Read About Trump’s Horrible Policies. Try go see how he will be our enemy, nor our helper. He has no idea how to run our country. .He only wants to help himself with adding millions and that is nor what we want in a ZPresidentz

              • Bizarre indeed. You made a point of it. But forgive me if I’ve missed the mark.

                I don’t claim to know who is a Christian. I never judge a person by their behaviour. Christianity is not about behaviour. Nor is it about self righteousness. It is about faith.

                To dare to claim that Clinton is a Christian by her behaviour, and Trump is not by those same standards is ludicrous, is my point.

                But, truth is truth and pointing that out, is love.

                Finding fault is everyone’s game when it comes to these posts, it appears.

                But none of us are good. Our good works are nothing more than filthy rags to God.

                That was my point as well. You think you know good, from evil judging behaviour and words.

                Who said the following…

                Let the dead bury the dead.
                Don’t throw your pearls to the swine.
                You hypocrite, you brood of vipers.
                It will be better on that day, for sodom and Gomorrah than for you.
                No man comes to the father but by me.
                Wipe the dust of that town from your sandals if they reject you.

                Jesus did.

                There is a truth and there are sundry lies. I’m stating that to pick one politician over another because of perceived goodness, is ludicrous. And it has nothing to do with Christ who only cares about faith and saving sinners, which are all of us. Or rather, were all of us.

                And let’s get real, you don’t love any more than anyone else, nor is your moral code set at a higher bar.

                To point that out is love. For if no one believes they are wretched, then no one needs a saviour.

                Finally, the utopia you seek has come and its in the Kingdom of God. Not on this planet.

                This will be my last post for we appear to have differing truths. I cannot agree with the author on anything. He chooses sides based from the human perspective and not from the spiritual perspective that The apostle Paul revealed to the church.

                That’s ok. In Christ, we are one, if in Christ.

                I pray for rest for all who post here. I pray for revelation and for the light of Gods grace to be bathed in.

                In Christ alone,

                Mike

                • Since your comments do not seem to reflect any sort of careful reading of my words, and since you seem to take isolated phrases out of context, I am calling TROLL ALERT.

                • Thank you for mansplaining. You might want to read this article:

                  Woman Creates Genius Flowchart To Shut Down Mansplainers
                  “No, you didn’t misunderstand, you mansplained.”
                  09/16/2015 12:27 pm ET
                  Alanna Vagianos
                  Women’s Editor, The Huffington Post
                  Elle Armageddon is here to answer when and when not to mansplain.
                  On Sept. 14, the 30-year-old California-native created a flowchart illustrating when it’s appropriate to “explain the thing to the lady.”
                  The flowchart, titled “Should You Explain The Thing To The Lady?” asks simple questions such as “Are you an expert or at least well-informed?” and the obvious “Did she ask?”
                  Armageddon told The Huffington Post that she was inspired to create the image after a man felt the need to explain the difference between ascending and descending street numbers to her.
                  Two days after her encounter with the man who attempted to explain street addresses to her, Armageddon drew her flowchart and tweeted the image. The tweet quickly took off receiving over 1,500 retweets and dozens of mentions.
                  While Armageddon didn’t specifically call out men in her chart, she told The Daily Dot that she “noticed that a disproportionate number of unsolicited (and often inaccurate) explanations bestowed upon me do seem to come from men.” No surprise there.
                  In an ironic twist of events, as soon as Armageddon tweeted the image men on Twitter started explaining (read: mansplaining) Armageddon’s flowchart to her.
                  “I have no idea why men, specifically, feel ‘targeted’ or ‘attacked’ by it, and assertions that it is ‘sexist’ are fascinating (and laughable),” Armageddon told HuffPost. “…But it has certainly been my experience that when you say ‘here’s a tool to help you not be an asshole,’ people who display the behavior illustrated often get very defensive.”

                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/woman-creates-genius-flowchart-to-shut-down-mansplainers_us_55f86d61e4b0e333e54b77dd

                • “Christianity is not about behaviour.” Wow. I guess the Ten Commandments are a moot point then. Also much of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Not to mention the Sermon on the Mount and many, many other passages in the Bible. Thanks for letting me know that all I need is “faith” (in what, not clearly defined), and that Christ’s behaviour is not what Christianity is about.

              • Well said Gloria, this is how we should all look at our Public Officials. They are there to serve us the people and it is always good to find out how they have served other’s besides themselves.
                Thanks for your comments..We too, know which Candidate has done more for THE PEOPLE.

            • Thank you, Patricia. It is how I look at every candidate for every single office including the school board. I don’t care what spiritual path a candidate walks. If a Muslim fits my criteria, that Muslim gets my vote.

              There is too much ingrained selfishness in too many politicians and too many voters. We need to think as the prophets of then Hebrew Scriptures, Jesus, the early Christians did: for the ***common*** good.

              I had a sad conversation this week with a woman dying of end stages breast cancer. She is getting a measly $900/m from Social Security. When she started receiving that, her SNAP benefits were terminated. She called me because she saw an ad where I am looking for a homemaker and she is desperate to earn money.

              She is *******dying*********. What kind of a country do we live in when we do not offer aid and comfort to the dying but add to their sufferings?

              Politicians in favor of that are not getting my votes.

          • Dear Hillary
            #
            #Written by Summer Marie on 10-14-2016.

            I really hope you do not become the first female president.

            I write this not because I am some crazy, right-wing, anti-feminist conspirator; I hope you are not our first female president because it would be a disgrace to that title and a disgrace to all of the young women in our country who aspire to actually do some good for our nation.

            Many people believe you are the best candidate for the position because you have been doing this political thing for a while—but when was the last time that you were able to relate to the common American?

            You grew up in the rich white suburbs of Chicago as a young child and attended Yale. You then went on to ride Bill’s coattails all the way to your Senate seat as a former First Lady. Any true feminist would look at you and see that you are a fraud.

            You get on your soapbox and claim that every woman who is a victim of sexual assault should be heard—but what about Juanita Broaddrick? Carolyn Moffet? Paula Corbin? Sara Allen-James? Christy Zercher? Kathleen Willey? Monica Lewinsky? All women who were sexually harassed or exploited by your husband.

            Yet you stand by him continuously, defending him and helping clean up his messes. If you ask me, that’s not very appealing to me as a woman. You also stood by him after he openly admitted to having “sexual relations” with Monica. That sounds like a very conservative stand by my man move if you ask me.

            If you were as independent as you portray yourself to be, why didn’t you just leave Bill? Because you needed his political access to get your foot in the door.

            All of that aside, the sheer fact that you allowed four Americans to perish in Benghazi and then proceeded to later ask, “what difference does it make?” proves to me that you don’t care about American lives. Those were four American men who died. Four families in our country that suffered a loss.in Four mothers that had to bury their sons.

            “What difference does it make?”

            “Because it’s not just a detail if it’s your kid, if it’s your family. It’s a big deal. And it should be a big deal to your president, too.”

            A detail to you, former Secretary—but to those families, a huge difference.

            Not to mention you want to allow all of these refugees in. Don’t get me wrong: I am a humanitarian. However, I, as an American citizen, am guaranteed safety as well as the safety of my future children and grandchildren in the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States.

            The one thing, if nothing else, that you as someone running for President of the United States should uphold. I understand that we should help people, but at the end of the day, would Syria do the same for us? In our time of crisis it is our job first and foremost, and yours, to ensure our own citizen’s safety.

            You use your platform of charitable humanitarian but now we are learning the extent to which your foundation is a fraud. It’s nothing but a money-laundering business that you can catch a tax break from.

            Which, by the way, is a wee bit illegal.

            You took up monetary donations after the Haiti earthquake and, yes, you did build a textile factory—on the opposite side of Haiti that wasn’t even affected by the earthquake. You also conveniently signed off Uranium to be given to Russia just after Uranium One shareholders deposited $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation. How thoughtful of them.

            You also claim to be against big business and fight all the big bad business bullies, but you’re in bed with them!

            Your daughter is, too. Your daughter married a former investor for Goldman Sachs. Your family managed to help spend some odd $3 million on their wedding. Wonder where that money really came from.

            You claim to be a friend of the black community and that you’re going to help bring them out of poverty. Look around! You are a part of the administration that has left them where they are and you have no intentions of changing that. You want control. Your mentor Saul Alinsky taught you that.

            You don’t know any struggle or strife. You are the epitome of “white privilege.” You traipse around in heinous $12,000 suits and preach about how you are for the people—how you are going to pull them out of poverty as you attend events where you give 20-minute speeches to the tune of $500,000 and eat $800 plates of food on your private plane.

            You have never faced financial strife. What makes you think you can help fix our national debt crisis?

            Above all things, if nothing else, the reason why I hope you don’t become the first female president is because you are a criminal. It does not matter if you didn’t intentionally use a server that was not secure. I may not intentionally go 55 in a 40 but the police officer is going to give me a ticket. I may not intentionally kill someone in a car accident; however, I can still go down for manslaughter. People don’t intentionally become drug addicts but you bet they still end up in prison for possession.

            You think you are above the law. You manipulate the system, which is not what a leader does. It’s not right.

            I am not some right-wing conspiracy theorist lunatic. I simply look at the facts.

            These facts tell me that I wouldn’t let you look after my pet rock, much less this nation.

            Yours truly,

            A Real Future Female Leader

            • Please read the articles cited below and substitute some actual facts,

              Please google: How A Completely False Claim About Hillary Clinton Ended Up All Over Facebook

              Please google: Obama Suggests Sexism Is Stopping Men From Supporting Clinton

              Please google: This is AWESOME—the editorial board at the Yale Record did NOT endorse Hillary Clinton

              Please google: The most thorough, profound and moving defense of Hillary Clinton I have ever seen.

              Please google: Endorsement: Hillary Clinton is the only choice to move America ahead

              |Please google: Our endorsement is rooted in respect for her intellect, experience and courage.
              HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT

              Please google: Hillary Clinton, the media and the common good

      • Bingo. The worst that can be said of Hillary is that she will be a bad president. However, the worst that can be said of Donald is that he may be the last president.

        • Yep. The Don would make a great emperor—not so much Napoleaon, more like Stalin. Either way, he would make sure he is the last president.

          • No, I think of him more like Caligula, Domitian, Septimus Severus, Maximinus Thrax, Diocletian, Commodus, He would probably be a lot like Tiberius, who left the job to others. <> at the idea of Mike Pence trying to do the job.

      • Yes, hexydezimal. I’m so tired of the lame grade school response, “Hillary is just as bad!” If you really think so, please make the argument using supporting facts. The problem is, you really can’t. No matter how many bad things people believe about Hillary, and there are many, (Most of those things are unsupported by facts, they have just been ingrained in the conservative psyche by FOX news repeating them over and over and over), nothing about her approaches the level of sheer unsuitability for the presidency that is Trump. You won’t see a reasoned argument anywhere that presents a case for voting Trump over Clinton because it just isn’t possible to make one. Trump is just that bad. All his supporters are left with is school yard responses: “Well at least he’s better than HER! She has cooties.”

        • Kathie, yes, indeed. Facts. Evidence. I want to see facts and evidence.

          Truth of the matter there is probably no one in politics who has undergone the degree of scrutiny that Ms. Rodham Clinton has. As First Lady of Arkansas, as FLOTUS, as a Senator, as Secretary of State.

          If there were any evidence of alleged wrongdoing, we would know about. Instead, all we have is prejudice expressed as innuendo, lies about her, and vicious rumors.

          Does she stretch the truth? Yes, but who doesn’t? Does she occasionally make a mistake? Who doesn’t.

          In comparison to Trump, she is an angel because of all the things nasty about him that are part of public record.

    • Actually, Deborah Rhodes, it can’t because never in the history of the USA has anyone ever been so qualified for the office of the Presidency. Never.

      It’s really ironic that this year’s choices are between someone who is probably the least qualified person ever to run for the Presidency and the person who is the most qualified candidate ever.,

      • What makes Secretary Clinton the most qualified person ever to run?

        Just to name a few, Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, was SecState and VP. Madison was the father of the constitution and SecState. Ike won WWII in Europe and was Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. Bush 41 was US Ambassador to China, a congressman, Director of the CIA, and VP.

        What has Hillary Clinton accomplished that makes her more qualified than any of them? The best thing she has going for her is that she’s not Donald Trump. An extremely important trait, to be sure, but also not a difficult bar to clear.

    • Not really. I do not recall Hillary threatening lives, nor do I recall her mocking people, or demeaning entire races. I could go on, but the point that I took away from this article is that it would appear that supporters of the republican candidate are motivated by fear and misplaced anger. Two very dangerous things.

    • Ms. Rhoades is quite right. We, as a country, have failed miserably if these are the only choices. One is one of the most corrupt, power hungry, dishonest individuals alive, and so is the other one. That there are millions of people wetting their pants with excitement to vote for either of them is truly baffling.

      GIANT METEOR 2016! It’s the only sensible choice.

    • It is comical, that Hillary’s name could be inserted into Johns piece, and it would ring very true.

      Liberals can’t stomach Trump’s feeble grasp on issues they care about, and Conservatives are incensed by sinking Hillary’s floatation devices (Media & corrupt Gov’t bias).

      Despite huge chinks in a President Trump’s armor, personally, I think that his perspective & thought processes on some important issues are brilliant, –er uh, normal!

      Does anyone else remember how wonderful ‘Common Sense’ actually is?

      Americans will vote Trump because Hillary is beyond convoluted. Average, tax payers are tired of being tied in knots by our Govt.

      We have a right to get from point A to point B. It’s a straight line!

      • Paul, “My Political Yardstick”

        For quite some time now I have been weighing our politicians who tell us they are Christians by their actions. The yardstick I use to measure them is the Prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus.


        Does the politician show hospitality to strangers?

        Does the politician help the poor?

        Does the politician feed the hungry?

        Does the politician care for the sick?

        Does the politician clothe the naked?

        Does the politician provide for those at the moment are unable to provide for themselves?

        Does the politician love neighbors?

        Does the politician avoid worshipping the god of an idolatry, such as money?


        if the answer is yes, I support that politician. If the answer is no, then I don’t.


        After all, the Prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus tell us this is how we love God with every fiber of our being. We have also been told this by the Early Church Fathers, the Didache, the many saints who have lived before us.


        All of them teach us that if a believer is truly filled with the love of God, the love the believer and God share must flow out of the believer’s very pores to love all of humanity and to serve humanity.

        Hillary Clinton said recently “I know it’s not popular, but we really need more kindness and empathy for one another.”

        She is not perfect, none of us are. But she appeals to our better nature and reminds us that our country’s strength is our goodness. Our greatest leaders have always inspired us to be our best selves. I pray we will keep this tradition.


        Kindness and empathy are two principle ways love between God and believer shower other people with love. Yes, our greatest leaders have inspired us to be our best selves. We need those kinds of leaders.

        
I cannot support any politician or person running for office who demonstrates bigotry, discrimination, gynophobia, homophobia, intolerance of that which is different, intolerance of those who are different from one’s self, intolerance of those who disagree with one’s self, misogyny, racism, transgenderphobia, and xenophobia.


        I can’t support such people because such people do not love their neighbors as themselves. I can’t support such people because God is Love and perfect love casts out all fear.

        I will never say such people are not Christians. There is too much finger-pointing, name-calling, too many people claiming to know who is or is not a Christian. Many too many. I prefer to say I am not God, I do not have the mind of God. God knows who is truly one who loves God with every fiber of their being.


        All I can say is that I know what I believe the Bible to be telling me and I support those politicians who tell me they are Christians who demonstrate that they believe as I what the Bible teaches. I have supported politicians who are not Christians because they hold the same values be they Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish.


        The Golden Rule, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” dates back to the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, two thousand years before the Incarnation. It seems to me a good basic value against which we can measure our politicians.


        I know which of the two Presidential nominees measure the highest on my yardstick.

        • gloriamarie… i couldn’t read your whole comment, but at first glance it looks like your looking for a good Pastor to fill the Presidency. I don’t expect my President to be my Pastor. I just want someone that will abide by immigration laws, tamp down Govt spending, & open up business development.

          I really like it when Trump says, ‘I have compassion for those arriving illegally looking for a better life. But , I have more compassion for Americans’.

          • Well, certainly appreciate being told you didn’t read the whole thing. Had you offered me that respect, you might have learned that I am not looking for a good pastor for any political office.

            Also, had you read with care you would have seen that I used the word “politician” repeatedly so it applies to everyone running for any office at any level. You chose to limit it to the Presidency and that is a mis-reading.

        • I am sorry, but you are a man. “No uterus? No opinion.” as Rachel Green famously said to Ross Geller in an episode of Friends.

          Men DO NOT have the right to ever tell women we are too stupid to know what is the best for our own bodies.

          You don’t want abortions?

          Then make birth control accessible and affordable.

          Educate people on their use.

          Men must cease to believe that they have a God-given right to women’s bodies.

          Fund Planned Parenthood in order to provide medical care for women and men both. If they were allowed to offer 97% of their services, the 3% of their services that is terminating pregnancies would possibly not be needed.

          Get Congress to act on ZIKA.

          And above all, please don’t tell me you believe that “this basic human right to live ought to trump (no pun intended) everything else, especially since this right is violated on such a large scale” if you don’t believe in feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, caring for the sick, and providing for those unable to provide for themselves.

          Please don’t tell me you believe that “this basic human right to live ought to trump (no pun intended) everything else, especially since this right is violated on such a large scale” if you believe in terminating Head Start programs, programs providing children with breakfast and lunch throughout the entire year, ending Medicaid, food stamps.

          Please don’t tell me you believe that “this basic human right to live ought to trump (no pun intended) everything else, especially since this right is violated on such a large scale” if you believe in the death penalty or going to war.

          If the shoe fits, then you are not in favor of life outside the womb.

    • Actually more can be said of the Dem candidate. Her criminal activity far outweighs Trump’s inexperience in political office. Have you seen the movie, Hillary’s America?

      • As Ms. Clinton is not guilty of any criminal activity, I can’t imagine what you are talking about. Whereas Trump is known to boast of his adulteries with the wives of his friends, has employed undocumented workers to build the Trump Tower and to staff his modeling agency, has not paid many of the contractors who build his stuff until he is ordered by the court, is under investigation for racketeering, under investigation for fraud, has bribed the AG of FL. It has also been recommended that DHS investigate him for human trafficking.

        Plus 91% of what comes out of his mouth is a lie.

      • Press, lies and Hillary’s campaign: Years of smears have created a fictional version of Clinton. They’re also a disservice to voters.
        Many Americans think Clinton is a congenital liar — that’s because of the right and the media, not her
        HEATHER DIGBY PARTON

        “The main problem for Clinton is that people think she is a congenital liar. When asked what it is she lied about, most people can’t point to anything specific; they just know she’s dishonest and corrupt. The fact that she’s been dogged by political enemies and investigated by special prosecutors, the media and Congress with unlimited budgets and every possible means of getting to the truth and has been exonerated doesn’t seem to register. Indeed, the fact-checkers all find her to be more honest than virtually anyone in politics while Donald Trump, by contrast, lies more than he tells the truth.

        “To understand how this came to be, go back to a column from 1996 in The New York Times by vicious right-wing columnist William Safire who first dubbed her a “congenital liar.” All the crimes that he accused her of committing and lies he insisted that she had told later proved him to be the liar (or badly misinformed), but it didn’t matter. For many reasons, not the least of which was simple sexism, it was set in stone that this feminist, lawyer first lady was devious, calculating and power mad — Madame Defarge and Evita rolled into one. The political press has filtered its coverage of her through that lens ever since.”

        http://www.salon.com/2016/09/06/press-lies-and-hillarys-campaign-years-of-smears-have-created-a-fictional-version-of-clinton-theyre-also-a-disservice-to-voters/

      • How can you possibly overlook Trump’s criminal activity?

        The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet
        The Republican nominee’s charitable foundation made a large gift to a Florida politician right before she dropped a damaging investigation. But what else has the foundation done?

        Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold has been reporting for months on the dearth of actual giving that Trump has done, despite repeated vows to donate to charity over the decades, but the story that’s broken through concerns a donation that Trump made to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, a Republican, in 2013. At the time, Bondi’s office was deciding whether or not to pursue a fraud case against Trump University and the Trump Institute. According to an aide, Bondi personally spoke with Trump, soliciting a donation to And Justice for All, a group backing her reelection. The Trump Foundation cut And Justice for All a $25,000 check, and four days later Bondi dropped the investigation.

        That’s not the end of the story. The liberal watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has filed a complaint with the IRS, accusing the Trump Foundation of violating another rule by using charity to benefit a group’s leader. Meanwhile, The Huffington Post reports that Trump’s help for Bondi didn’t stop with that $25,000 donation. His family gave more to her, and he also hosted a fundraiser at his tony Mar-A-Lago in Florida—charging less than market rate, and less than he charged his own campaign to host events there.

        The Beauty Pageant Scandals

        Where and when: Various, 1992-present

        Racial Housing Discrimination

        Where and when: New York City, 1973-1975

        Mafia Ties

        Where and when: New York and Atlantic City, 1970s- ?

        Trump University

        Where and when: 2005-2010, online

        The school shut down in 2010, but the litigation continues. New York is suing Trump, alleging the Trump U. bilked students out of $40 million. He’s also the subject of two class-action suits in California. Meanwhile, Trump appears to have been trying to intimidate plaintiffs, including countersuing one for $1 million (a favorite Trump litigation tactic) and refusing to let her withdraw from the suit. (The countersuit was thrown out.) His lawyers have cited positive reviews, but former students say they were pressured to give those. A set of damning internal documents were released by court order in May. Trump decided to attack the judge, claiming his ethnicity made him biased. Trump has been widely repudiated across the board, with fellow Republicans openly calling him racist.

    • This has been such an awful election year so far—the worst in my memory. Like Ana Navarro said, “We may all need some sort of anesthetic to get us to November 8th…” I have no idea who I am going to vote for—except it will not be Trump. Hillary looked fairly okay at first—but she is already mired too deeply in obvious lies—and do we really want a person who tells lies all the time—even after they have been debunked by media fact checkers? What an utter mess—and at a time when our country really is at some sort of historical crossroads. As a history person, archaeology person, and anthropologist, I have to say that we may very well be up that famous creek without that famous paddle.

    • Deborah Rhodes:

      Where is your proof? I want to see evidence, not the babbling hearsay of a bunch of crazed Neocons whose dislike of Mrs Clinton stems solely from her sex. Because when it comes down to facts you have NOTHING.

      • Good luck with that, Scott. I’ve also been asking people for the evidence and in response, I have been called some pretty filthy names which lead me to conclude there is no evidence.

        Off hand, I cannot think of anyone in politics who has been under such intense scrutiny for decades. Certainly not Nixon or Reagan/Bush1.

        Her work as a lawyer has been scrutinized. Her days as FL of Arkansas has been scrutinized. Her days as FLOTUS has been scrutinized. Her days as a Senator has been scrutinized. Her time as Secretary of State and since has been scrutinized.

        Common sense tells me there is no evidence.

        What there is, I think, is jealousy of her brains and obvious competence. The jealousy is worse because she is a woman. The Republicans are so terrified of her winning this election that they have been telling lies for a Very Long Time. The sad thing is that a lie told often enough takes on a life of its own.

        Where’s the evidence?

    • So expected your comments just like a typical uneducated Donald Trump supporter. Always deflect the truth and point fingers at the other side. This article hit the nail on the hammer about who the real supporters are of dumpy trump. True Words Of Wisdom….

  1. The same is happening here in Europe too. Where I live we have a candidate who wants to forbid both the Quran and all mosques. He knows perfectly well this won’t happen or isn’t possible-he’s got plenty of experience in polictics already-but it doesn’t matter because his fans love his rethoric and that’s all that matters. Everybody else hates it and he genuinely seems to rather like that as well. It really is about being a protest-vote and -voice, not about actual good plans for the country. He might become the biggest party, but most other parties are not willing to cooperate with him to form a coalition.

  2. As an Australian all I can say is if Trump supporters think the Filipino president is a joke, then Trump is no better, if anything, he’s worse. Go ahead and vote for him, that’s your right, but when your country and your president is the laughing stock of the planet, then you will only have yourselves to blame, and I predict you won’t get a lot of sympathy from the rest of the world. If he could just act in a bit more statesman like fashion then you may be able to bear it, but I fear statesmanship isn’t part of his vocabulary.

      • Well forgive me, I am from the rest of the world and many people seem very impressed by your current President. Impressed by his inteligence and the way he conducts himself, without always agreeing with all of his policies.
        Are people laughing at America? Yes they are! America is a laughing stock because of your 200 million guns and your 30,000 gun deaths a year and the way that if any one dares to even raise the question of an intelegent debate on the subject, they are branded as a traitor the constituion. The equivallent of 120 Jumbo jet loads of people a year gunned down by their fellow citizens. It is that which makes the rest of world laugh at America whilst slowly shaking our heads in bemused confussion.

        • Thank you, Bill Hayes. I fear that many of us here in the USA, and a great many of our politicians don’t give a flying fig for the opinions of the rest of the world because we are just that arrogant. However, there are also a great many of us who see the same flaws you do and we are fighting to change things. Hard road to walk.

        • Bill Hayes, all gun deaths are bad. Its true about 30,000 die each year from Guns:
          –(11,000) Homicides
          — (21,000) Suicide
          –(560) Accidental

          Worldwide, Jihad (alone) kills or injures 4,000 per month. About 48,000 per year. Most all victims are Muslim. These deaths and injuries do not account for non-Jihad violence in Muslim countries.

            • Paul your statistics are off by quite a bit. I am not sure how you are calculating it. However, there is a real problem in the world and let’s not be ignorant about religious terror.

              ” [In 2016], there were 1274 [Jihad described] attacks in 50 countries, in which 11774 people were killed and 14303 injured.”

              Religious fanaticism needs to end but not by more religious fanaticism or religious discrimination.

              And America as a nation has an appalling record with regards to gun deaths and violence and cannot take the moral ground here.

              Working towards peace is going to be hard work and can be accomplished by those devoted to it; making peace the goal and all conflict is only a means to an end of violence, not a ongoing cycle.

              In the end if we work towards peace we will inherit a peaceful world. It is our good deeds that prove the goodness of God. I thank God for anyone who is working towards peace.

        • No. No. No. You do not understand the American conservative mindset. The America conservative mindset views a really good and proper President of the United States as the 800-lb gorilla that forces your country to hand over its lunch money or get a pounding. I grew up in the American South, and that is precisely the way most of the population down here views it. The Trump slogan “Make America Great Again” means a United States that is No. 1 in nearly everything that counts (most fighter planes, most navy ships, best universities, most Olympic medals, most Nobel Prizes, etc.) and always having a powerful, high performing economy—and more than enough military strength to rule the world by force if it felt the need to do so. On the other hand, folks like you (and your country) believe that a truly great country has the best poets, best novelists, best string ensembles, and the best-tasting Yorkshire pudding or spotted dick. The United States is not now and never has been about finger bowls and dainties—and Europe needs to wake up to that fact. Two words: “Will” and “Power.”

      • So I guess you missed that Obama is one of the most admired people in the world. He cleaned up the Bush/Cheney mess and restored our standing in the world. We are only a laughingstock at the moment because of Trump running for office.

      • Yep, because of the rednecks and the guns and the corrupt corporations and the trailer parks full of mouth breathers waving confederate flags supporting traitors and seditionists who fought against the first Republican president in a event called the Civil War by the North but recalled by the South as the war of northern aggession. Did I miss anything?

  3. Sadly, there is no good alternative! We’ve had to vote for the lesser of two evils in the past several elections, but this time, there doesn’t appear to be one!

  4. Donald Trump established a year ago (and every day since) that he hates the same people his supporters hate. That’s all they need to know. The specifics about what he’s planning to do or how competent or knowledgeable he is are irrelevant. He hates who they hate, and that’s good enough for them.

    • Personally, I don’t see the hate from Trump. [Average Americans do not consider having sovereign borders hateful.]

      For 40 years, Hillary has talked down to Minorities, and has delivered plenty of slights in their direction (grossly underreported). She even breaks into faux black dialect every time she addresses African American groups. So condescending. And racist.

      Trump talks straight.

      • Of all the imaginable reasons to support him, “Trump talks straight” is the most out of touch with reality. In what alternate universe could Trump’s talk be regarded as straight?

        • Especially when the non-partisan, Pulitzer Prize-winning Politifact say that 91% of what he says is a lie.

          Anyone who says “Trump talks straight” must hold that opinion because Trump says the stuff that validates their bigotry, discrimination, gynophobia, homophobia, intolerance of those with a different opinion, misogyny, racism, sexism, transgenderphobia, white supremacy, and xenophobia.

  5. Well said again, Pastor John. I too have noticed that Trump supporters don’t seem to care about things a rational voter would care about: evidence, facts, truth, personal qualities, character.

    I would have thought they would have cared that he doesn’t pay the people who build his casinos, that he imported a bunch of men from another country to build Trump Tower and then sent them home, unpaid. that he is under investigation for fraud and racketeering and may soon be under investigation for human trafficking. They don’t seem to care that he has the emotional maturity of a two year in a temper tantrum.

    It is against their best interests for anyone to vote for him unless they are privileged, straight, white men. Women, people of color, this population will not be served any only be harmed by a Trump presidency.

    Clearly, Trump is an adulterer, a bigot, a bully, a discrimination, a gynophobe, a homophobe, intolerant of anyone who disagrees with him, misogynistic, racist, sexist, transgenderphobic, white supremacist, and xenophobic.

    Most reluctantly, the conclusion I have come to is this. Because Trump is all of these things, it gives people permission to express all of their exact same qualities.

    The only comfort I take from all this is that Hillary will probably defeat him in the hugest landslide we’ve ever seen.

  6. I don’t want to “Like” this because it is nothing but heartache for me to know that you are 100% correct and I don’t want EITHER of these candidates..BOTH are equally so flawed that I am frightened. It will be a time of deep faith walking…Trusting that no matter who is in office GOD is the same, Yesterday, Today and Forever more. That he will walk beside me. That I will never be alone in the CRAZY times that are our reality today.
    Sincerely from the “Home for the Bewildered”

    • yes! thank you. am wondering if it is allowable here to simply voice the words you posted above and not be berated for them? I, too, am neither a Trump nor a Clinton supporter. I am a follower of Christ Jesus, and I am holding on to His hope and His sovereignty. He is in charge, and His purposes are always good, even when we cannot begin to understand what He is up to. If we, as Christians, are TRULY acting and moving from a place of love and gratitude, perhaps kindness and gentleness with others, ALL others, are the best methods we have available?

      • Abby, I, too, am a Christian and I am as politically active as my disabled handicapped self can be. Alas, no more demonstrations. Here is a piece I wrote. I call it “My Political Yardstick.”

        For quite some time now I have been weighing our politicians who tell us they are Christians by their actions. The yardstick I use to measure them is the Prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus.


        Does the politician show hospitality to strangers?


        Does the politician help the poor?


        Does the politician feed the hungry?


        Does the politician care for the sick?


        Does the politician clothe the naked?


        Does the politician provide for those at the moment are unable to provide for themselves?


        Does the politician love neighbors?


        Does the politician avoid worshipping the god of an idolatry, such as money?


        if the answer is yes, I support that politician. If the answer is no, then I don’t.


        After all, the Prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and Jesus tell us this is how we love God with every fiber of our being. We have also been told this by the Early Church Fathers, the Didache, the many saints who have lived before us.


        All of them teach us that if a believer is truly filled with the love of God, the love the believer and God share must flow out of the believer’s very pores to love all of humanity and to serve humanity.

        Hillary Clinton said recently “I know it’s not popular, but we really need more kindness and empathy for one another.”

        She is not perfect, none of us are. But she appeals to our better nature and reminds us that our country’s strength is our goodness. Our greatest leaders have always inspired us to be our best selves. I pray we will keep this tradition.


        Kindness and empathy are two principle ways love between God and believer shower other people with love. Yes, our greatest leaders have inspired us to be our best selves. We need those kinds of leaders.

        
I cannot support any politician or person running for office who demonstrates bigotry, discrimination, gynophobia, homophobia, intolerance of that which is different, intolerance of those who are different from one’s self, intolerance of those who disagree with one’s self, misogyny, racism, transgenderphobia, and xenophobia.


        I can’t support such people because such people do not love their neighbors as themselves. I can’t support such people because God is Love and perfect love casts out all fear.

        I will never say such people are not Christians. There is too much finger-pointing, name-calling, too many people claiming to know who is or is not a Christian. Many too many. I prefer to say I am not God, I do not have the mind of God. God knows who is truly one who loves God with every fiber of their being.


        All I can say is that I know what I believe the Bible to be telling me and I support those politicians who tell me they are Christians who demonstrate that they believe as I what the Bible teaches. I have supported politicians who are not Christians because they hold the same values be they Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish.


        The Golden Rule, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” dates back to the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, two thousand years before the Incarnation. It seems to me a good basic value against which we can measure our politicians.


        I know which of the two Presidential nominees measure the highest on my yardstick.

      • Regardless of whether or not you get berated for your words, they could not be more accurate. Each candidate is equally repulsive. That one of them is likely to be elected president proves once an for all that the great American experiment in self governance ended in failure.

  7. John
    God is in control. He will make president whom He wants and as we are directed in the Bible, we will respect his or her authority granted to them for a time by God.

    We are getting what we deserve collectively, the choice between a lying self serving coward who could not tell the truth if her life depended upon it or a self centered bully who thinks he can treat people the same way he ran his business. God (will) help us, rely on it. We as Christians must do far better than we have if we desire a better future for those that come after us.

    I have met each individual decades ago. Neither will sell our nation down the river but there is a wide gulf between the directions they intend to take our nation. Our choices are different John, but our wishes for all Christians, citizens and the world are the same.

    My attitude on this race is simply to enjoy it for entertainment knowing that ultimately God is in control and for us all ultimately ends well.

    • This reminds me of the man in the inmpending flood coming to his town. Despite the warnings on his local radio station He refuses to move from his house. “I pray, I have faith in God, he will take care of me” The waters start rising, and the police come to his house in a boat and tell him he must leave. He refuses; “I pray, I have faith in God, he will take care of me”

      The next morning he is sitting on his roof, his feet dangleing in the water. A helicopter flies over head, and they call for him to grab the rope ladder so they can take him to safety. He yells back up to the pilot “I pray, I have faith in God, he will take care of me”

      He drowns.

      In heaven God sees him and say to the man, what are you doing here? he replies that he was wondering the same thing. “I prayed, I had faith in you God, I thought you would take care of me”

      God replies ” but I sent you a radio message, a boat and a helicopter – why are you here?”

      We have been sent the power of reason. We have been sent the vote. We have been sent town hall meetings etc. What the hell are we waiting for?

  8. John is correct about Trump. I was once a Hillary basher until I bothered to learn about her apart from those who have spent 25 years making a -not so leak proof- case against her. Of course she has made mistakes, name a candidate or president who hasn’t, some much worse than she.

    Remember the real fear of Hillary haters is that they hate competent women and sure don’t want a woman running things.

    The thing is, Trump makes his own case against himself, no one has to dig up dirt on him and as John said, Trumps followers simply buy into the lowest of low ideals.

    As said before, Hillary is without doubt extremely well prepared for the job and she will be vilified from day one because there are those who will never be able to grasp the real truth about her. Much of that truth is discerned not learned.

    With Hillary these United States will remain united. With Trump all bets are off what America will look like but we certainly won’t recognize the country we now cherish. Unless congress impeaches the sorry $@#.

    • In what Voltaire called “the best of all possible worlds,” John Kasich is probably the best candidate that we all should have had—and I am not even a Republican. Face it folks. We all blew it this year—just plain blew it.

      • He’s a sexist. He doesn’t think women are intelligent enough to know how to care for our own bodies. Additionally, he is a schismatic, in terms of religious beliefs.

  9. I believe the common thread across America is less about Trump as a candidate and more about the frustration Americans are facing with those that represent them in Washington. Even George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could not win an election today if they didn’t have the support of millions of dollars of special interest money. There are many solutions that would level the playing field but that would not be in the best interest of those that provide the lavish lifestyle of our elected officials and ultimately control the fate of America.

    The American voter and non-voter have lost faith in our system and for many good reasons. When disgruntled constituents have discussed concerns with the political process in years past I can remember people often saying, “yes, but it is still the best system in the world.” What I hear most now is, “our candidate options are the lesser of two evils.”

    The majority of Americans who understand that our nation is $18 trillion dollars in debt with no sign of relief in the distant future, simply want change from the leadership that have placed us in this vulnerable and fragile position. People are screaming for hope from “anyone” perceived strong enough and willing to stand up to those that continue to destroy the very foundation that our country was founded on.

  10. I am Canadian following your election very closely, hoping the best for my American neighbours. I don’t think all things are equal in this case. In my opinion Hillary Clinton is not just as bad as Donald Trump. Trump by his very own words and with current observation is unfit for the highest office in your country. I have never thought any nominated candidate was more unfit for office in any election I have follow from across the border than Donald Trump. He is not fit by what he says and what he has done during the whole nomination process.

    You don’t even have to look at his past to know how he is going to act as your President, if elected. He stands out like a sore thumb. But maybe that is the problem. You cannot see the difference between the two candidates because of right-wing and left-wing media and social-media hysteria. You can’t see the truth because there is so many spin doctors on both sides that the dust is blinding people’s eyes.

    America weigh your options wisely, be pragmatic, be sensible, protect your institutions. Don’t be like the Brexit people who woke up the next morning and said “Oh no, what just happened? what did we do?” God is not going to decide this election, people are.

    • Based on a Political Science guru (don’t ask me who. I racked my brain before I responded here), a vote for a third party delegate is a vote for Trump. That is what happened to Al Gore with the hanging chad debacle. Gore would have won if a third party delegate did not siphon off his votes. Trump is hoping that he is close enough, and people vote enough for a third party, that he will be able to inch ahead-even though he will not have the popular vote.

      I am not going to tell you how to vote. Just know that our votes have consequences either way. That is the cost and joy of our free society.

  11. Thank you Pastor John. Wise words which have relived me of the task of arguing with Trump Supports in various media.

    I once saw the legendary Chicago Broadcaster Studds Turkel on UK TV. He was in snack Bar talking with customers and one man released a long diabtribe on the ills of the world; blaming foreigners and the Government – all goverments. When he had finished Studds turned to the Camera with his great beautiful grin and taking his cigar out of his mouth said…….”There folks, is a human emotion honestly expressed”

    I wonder how it will go?

  12. I believe that’s a two-way street. I don’t support either candidate but I dislike Clinton’s outright lying the most. I’m sorry but I’ve never had time for liars. The stress on her emotions has to be exhausting. It really doesn’t matter who gets in there anyway because we will reap what we’ve sown. I no longer concern myself about things I have no control over and politics is at the top of that list. Jesus did not concern himself with politics and you shouldn’t either.

    • Terry. I am not convinced that the “Christian Lover” approach of placing one’s palms down and waiting for Jesus to take care of everything for you is the answer to anything. If that had been done in World War II, we would all be speaking German, Japanese, and Italian right now. Try this experiment. Go down stairs to your kitchen and take a seat. Bow your head, tell Jesus you are hungry, and tell him you are leaving it ALL UP TO HIM that some sort of fully cooked meal is going to instantly appear in front of you from out of nowhere. Wait there as long as it takes for this meal to arrive out of thin air with no human agency, action, or involvement. That is the way some of you folks are treating this election on November 8. Get real folks!!! When was the last time Jesus asked you to do something like this? Remember Jesus and the temptations in the desert? Thou shalt not put the Lord thy God to a foolish test—as it is sometimes translated. You guys are dealing with this election in foolish test terms as if Jesus does not require your presence and action. He gave you that noodle of yours to use. Use it!!!!

  13. Some President Trump predictions from your old friend Charles:

    1) Within 2 weeks of being in office, President Trump will feel too straight-jacketed by the U.S. Constitution—and he will begin violating it right and left to get what he wants.

    2) Congress (Republicans and Democrats) will try to rein him in and control him with classic obstructionist and gridlock tactics—and they will fail because Trump will simply ignore them and do whatever he wants to do.

    3) Congress will go into gridlock over a key Trump initiative—or something like shutting down the federal government. For the first time in American history, despite existing law to the contrary, Trump will activate the 101st Airborne Division, order a large military task force to surround the U.S. Capitol Building, and force the members of Congress to vote FOR his key initiative at gunpoint. This will happen within his first year in office—and the members of Congress will quickly comply. After this point in time, the United States will be ruled by its first true dictatorship—like the first dictator emperor of Rome. The current U.S. Constitution will be left in place—for just a little while—but it will not be followed—just as the Soviet Union did not follow its constitution.

    4) The Mullahs who govern Iran will try to test Trump early in his administration. The current nuclear treaty with Iran will be abrogated in response. Israel and the United States will jointly bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities. Iran will retaliate by firing on U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf, killing hundreds of American sailors. The United States will declare war on Iran, send a massive armed force to Iran (along with Middle East allies like Saudi Arabia), take down the entire country in four weeks, and at Trump’s behest, tear it limb from limb. No nation-building will occur. Armed forces will do what they were originally created to do—utterly destroy their enemy—military and civilian. The Iranian Mullahs will be hunted down, and America troops will hang them by the hundreds without due process of law—publicly in downtown Tehran. Iranian youth will support the overthrow of the Mullahs but will be upset by the overall loss of life in Iran. Putin will be warned that any Russian transgression of the Iran border will result in instant severe retaliation. Putin will back down when he says that Trump is dead serious and obviously crazier than he ever dreamed of being. The United States will not transgress Russian territory unless provoked.

    5) Kim-Jong-Un will personally offend Trump with highly personalized rhetoric and make one of his usual threats of nuclear annihilation on the United States—soon after it succeeds in fitting a nuclear warhead on a long-range missile. With American troops tied down in Iran, Trump will abrogate the traditional American promise to never use nuclear weapons first. The United States will launch a highly coordinated and massive nuclear strike on North Korea to prevent North Korean troops from quickly overwhelming Seoul. This strike will come with zero warning. Pyongyang and other North Korean cities will be leveled. The Chinese will subsequently be informed that any attempt to help North Korea will result in the targeting of Chinese assets with nuclear weapons—and that if any American cities are targeted—Chinese population centers will be wiped clean. China will back down because they and the whole world knows by now that Trump means it and will follow through on it.

    6) Donald Trump will declare himself to be President of the United States for Life before the end of his first term in office.

    7) Trump will pursue an internal program of finding and destroying his enemies and the enemies of his supporters. John Pavlovitz, I, and many of you will be carted off to concentration camps so we no longer pose a danger to the administration and its allies.

    8) A new U.S. Constitution will be written according to guidelines set forth by key national Trump constituencies. The new U.S. Constitution will officially designate “Bible-Believing Christianity” as the national religion of the United States. All other Christian and nonChristian denominations, faiths, and religions will be outlawed, and taxes will be levied to support the new national church. Religious persecution and death will be widespread. A new Presidential cabinet position (Secretary of Religious Affairs) will be created, and the first holder of this seat will be a high-level official in the Southern Baptist Convention.

    9) When the communist government in Cuba sees how crazy Trump is, it will instantly capitulate without firing a shot. The Trump companies will build numerous new resorts in Cuba. Cuba will become the tourist jewel of the Caribbean. Numerous old American cars will be left on the streets of Cuba to preserve the charm of the Island for tourists.

    I could list more predictions—many more—-but I would bet my bottom dollar that at least a few of these will come true if Trump is elected. The most likely to come true—in my opinion—are surrounding the U.S. Capitol with troops to break Congressional gridlock at gunpoint and the wars against Iran and North Korea.

  14. Everyone has flaws. But HRC has shown that under intense scrutiny, constant Republican led investigations, mistreatment by the media, protests, etc., that she reacts in a calm manner, tries to listen to concerns and responds in the same calm and collected manner with details. During the primaries, she showed that she was willing to listen to the Bernie supporters and did what a politician is supposed to do, compromise in order to meet the needs of most of the constituents. DT, on the other hand, is a bully who flies off the handle at the slightest disagreement, encourages his followers to hurt protesters (can’t deny it, it was on video) and speaks so generally that he almost gives the same answer for every question. He’s only listening to himself (as he, himself, has pointed out in numerous interviews and speeches) and doesn’t care what the Republican base wants. It’s what he wants or nothing.

    People say they don’t want a “politician” but we’re looking for a President, not a dictator. They should be looking for someone who has shown that they are willing to work across party lines in order to get things done. HRC has a history of doing just that as Senator. And I, personally, am looking for someone who will protect the rights of all, no matter color, gender, orientation or religious affiliation. DT has made it clear that either he doesn’t want to do that at all, or he will or he can’t decide what he wants to do.

    I think I’m comfortable with my choice—Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    • Thanks Jennifer, for the well-based argument in favor of Clinton. I think that the outsized witch-hunt tactics against her, going back many years but of course most accelerated in the last two or so, prove more than anything else that she has the gravitas and level-headedness — and frankly, the hardened experience of surviving in the bruising political world for many, many years — that clearly set her apart from her opponent. I think a lot of the lack of warmth people feel for her is the real root of their dislike, and that’s understandable…..but I’ve also heard more than once from folks who knew her personally & worked closely with her both pre-politics and in her more recent political career who claim she’s proven to be a real collaborator, and a lot more personable & sincere one-on-one than the public persona her detractors have painted. I’m really expecting that after some time of her presidency (and dear Lord, PLEASE make sure it’s “when”, not “if”), she’ll be appreciated more for these traits, but at the same time her dug-in millions of Far Right critics will never be persuaded otherwise, and will only focus on the inevitable 20/20-hindsight mistakes every president makes. In other words, the same as these last eight years.

    • Brilliantly expressed, Jennifer. Thank you.

      I think it shows a good deal of manipulation on the GOP’s side of things that they have turned the discussion to one of character flaws rather than one of qualifications.

      Trumps character flaws… er… trump Hillary’s in spades.

  15. She’ll just sit on her can and do nothing for four years while she soaks in the aura of the office and pats herself on the back with congratulations that a Wellesley girl finally made it all the way to the top—-as predicted by her professors long ago. The dream is won. the dream is won. The dream is ONE.

    Understand?

  16. Hey john I have had only praise for your work so far, this one is a little different. I didn’t read this article. I’m absolutely positive that you made amazing points however, and I’m sure it would enlighten me in more than one way if I read it. But I think just from reading trumps name in the title that the mark is being missed here. When we spend time focusing on the government on this earth- run by Satan- we are giving into negativity, darkness- falling for the illusion of evil! God knows and covers all and has allowed an evil force to make a fool of itself running the world. When Jesus comes back, it’s said that gods kingdom will take over completely for a period of time. So I find it wasteful to spend much energy looking at politics. I was a huge Ron Paul supporter in 07, and when the candidate backed by media won the election, I knew once and for all that it’s rigged for evil. I pay no mind now. We must learn true godly government from what God says, and not get caught up in what Satan wants us to be caught up in. <3

  17. Gloriamarie, I was on vacation in the US and doing a little shopping. The woman who served me was upset because she was losing her job as that store would be closing permanently at the end of the day, and she needed the job to be able to survive. I asked her how old she was and was floored when she said 81. Later that day, while standing in line to get into an event, I was talking about that conversation with my companion, trying to understand it. The guy in line behind me went off on me because “in America everybody stands on their own two feet and doesn’t expect handouts”. I think that is terribly sad. Unles you are a survivalist living alone in the wilderness, we are all interdependent. In the case of the woman wanting to be your housekeeper, I bet she has contributed her whole life. It’s about time someone contributed for her.

    • Patricia, I don’t know what country this man was from who said this “The guy in line behind me went off on me because “in America everybody stands on their own two feet and doesn’t expect handouts”.

      There has, I suppose, always been a certain type of USian who thinks as he does. All those pioneers and their families living from one month to the next and never seeing anyone else. But that attitude is not universal.

      The ethos of the USA has always been to lend a helping hand.

      My heart breaks for that 81 year old woman.

      “I think that is terribly sad. Unless you are a survivalist living alone in the wilderness, we are all interdependent. In the case of the woman wanting to be your housekeeper, I bet she has contributed her whole life. It’s about time someone contributed for her.

      I agree it is all very terribly sad. I find myself wondering if the woman you met has children and if so, where are they?

      Yes, I think both of these women have contributed. Yes, we are all interdependent. I think we need to reclaim the concept of common weal.

    • I bet that man in line behind you was:

      A) A Republican

      B) A fundie Christian—or about to become one—so he can be in unity with people who share his values.

      As one Libertarian fundie once told me directly:

      “If an old person is brain dead and paralyzed all over her body except for a nerve twitch in her thumb and index finger—-she had better be using that finger twitch to earn a living for herself so he does not have to support her out of his wallet.”

      • I had thought he was a Libertarian, Charles, because every one I’ve met has been pretty heartless. OTOH, neocons, Tea Party, Freedom Caucus Party , fascists like that would all say the same thing.

        • The thing about Libertarians is that they will tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps despite the obvious fact that you aren’t wearing any boots.

          • And they don.t care if the boots are missing that bothers me. No compassion for anyone else as long as their own idolatry is protected

  18. I agree with a comment made recently by a reporter or pundit on CNN. This comment highlights how Bill and Hillary Clinton are just like American Christian fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals. The comment was as follows (roughly paraphrased):

    “The key problem with the Clintons is that they are so convinced of the righteousness of their various causes that the things they do to support those clauses (lying, cheating, nimbly skirting the edge of the law, etc.) do not really matter. All that really matters is to bring the causes to fruition.”

  19. Sinclair Lewis wrote a terrifying novel in 1935 titled “It Can’t Happen Here” . I would highly recommend this novel with the political landscape of today of Trump playing on the fears on people.

  20. You Silly Silly man. They may not give credit to you accusations, all they know is that they dont want HILLARY as their president. I don’t want Hillary as my president. She is a liar, two-faced, underhanded woman who is under investigation and possible will be indicted for the crimes she has committed and then denied. WIKILEAKS is a wonderful full disclosure of how she has worked as a Secretary of State. I so don’t trust her. My Opinion is my own as well as yours are but Here is some fodder for your reading pleasure. And this was before the Poop even hit the fan last week. Dont forget to click on the hyperlinks. It ‘s in her words. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/catherinedunn/2016/09/27/200-reasons-hillary-clinton-is-unfit-to-be-president-n2223804?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=nreview&utm_campaign=nrshare

    • I guess you were not inpressed when the GOP admitted the whole Benghazi nonsense was fabricated to discredit her. You don’t even believe your own politicians so why would you believe these lies.

      Please google: Rudy Giuliani Confirms FBI Insiders Leaked Information To The Trump Campaign
      “Did I hear about it? You’re darn right I heard about it.”

      Please google: WHY VLADIMIR PUTIN’S RUSSIA IS BACKING DONALD TRUMP

      Please google: This Is Not About Emails; It’s About White Males

      Please google: Obama Suggests Sexism Is Stopping Men From Supporting Clinton

      Please google:
      U.S. officials warn of Russian mischief in election and beyond

    • It really doesn’t matter to Republicans that it’s Hillary running for President. There have been countless enquiries and commissions on the Clintons over the years and to date, not one shred of evidence has resulted in any form of legal action against either of them. Bill Clinton faced sanctions for his peccadilos that were not the limited to powerful people. I always remeber what Linda Tripp said to Moniker “don’t get that dress dry cleaned, it will come in useful one day” and it did.

      The polititcs of Washington have become increasingly polarised over the four decades, a process energised by the first Black President, who was accused of being a Muslim (no crime there) a liar for pretending he was an American Citizen when infact was born a Kenyan. He has been accused of letting the Mulsim Brotherhood take over the Whitehouse. He was going to take everyone’s guns away. These acusations were being made, not by the Tin hat brigade but established, experienced Republican Politicians and journalists. People who should know better. When Obama moved into the Whitehouse every Republican swore an allegiance to the notion that anything the Democrats wanted to achieve in Government would be thwarted, regardless of of the merrits of the case.

      Now it is Hillary in the firing line. Hillary “The criminal” Nice title for someone who has never been charged with a single crime and against whom no credible eveidence has been presented to any court or commission. Even the FBI failed to summon up enough material to warrent a court case. It doesn’t matter, she’s still a criminal. But if you are honest with yourself, I think you’ll find that her crime, that she shares with Obama et al, is that she is not a member of your party.

      American political discousre has done away with reasoned discusion and arguement and has been replaced entirely by personal demonising. The Deomcrats are guilty of the same thing to a certain extent. The demonising of Hillary is so effective that there are people here in the UK who have no real involvement in Americans Politics say that she shouldn’t be President because she is a Liar and Criminal. When I asked them what she has lied about, and what crimes she has committed, they have no answer.

      As Hamlet said; “There is nothing either good or evil but thinking makes it so”

  21. This letter has so many problems in it, that I don’t know where to begin. It is rife with insinuations and innuendos, biases, and prejudices. How would “Summer” like her life to be examined under a microscope, every word dissected, and every action scrutinized with an agenda in mind? How clean would anyone’s life be? How about yours?

    • Public figures always have every aspect of their lives scrutinized so I really fail to understand how that can be a complaint.

      Besides the evidence is overwhelming that Trump is a nasty man.

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