How the Trump Stole America

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In a land where the states are united, they claim,
in a sky-scraping tower adorned with his name,
lived a terrible, horrible, devious chump,
the bright orange miscreant known as the Trump.

This Trump he was mean, such a mean little man,
with the tiniest heart and two tinier hands,
and a thin set of lips etched in permanent curl,
and a sneer and a scowl and contempt for the world.

He looked down from his perch and he grinned ear to ear,
and he thought, “I could steal the election this year!
It’d be rather simple, it’s so easily won,
I’ll just make them believe that their best days are done!
Yes, I’ll make them believe that it’s all gone to Hell,
and I’ll be Jerk Messiah and their souls they will sell.

And I’ll use lots of words disconnected from truth,
but I’ll say them with style so they won’t ask for proof.
I’ll speak random platitudes, phrases, and such,
They’re so raised on fake news that it won’t matter much!
They won’t question the how to, the what, why, or when,
I will make their America great once again!” 

The Trump told them to fear, they should fear he would say,
“They’ve all come for your jobs, they’ll all take them away.
You should fear every Muslim and Mexican too,
every brown, black, and tan one, all the ones who vote blue.”

And he fooled all the Christians, he fooled them indeed,
He just trotted out Jesus, that’s all Jesus folk need.  
And celebrity preachers they crowned him as king,
Tripping over themselves just to kiss the Trump’s ring.

And he spoke only lies just as if they were true,
Until they believed all of those lies were true too.
He repeated and Tweeted, he blustered and spit,
And he mislead and fibbed—and he just made up sh*t.

And the media laughed but they printed each line,
thinking “He’ll never win, in the end we’ll be fine.”
So they chased every headline, bold typed every claim,
‘Till the fake news and real news they looked just the same.

And the scared folk who listened, they devoured each word,
Yes, they ate it all up every word that they heard,
petrified that their freedom was under attack,
trusting Trump he would take their America back. 
from the gays and from ISIS, he’d take it all back,
Take it back from the Democrats, fat cats, and blacks.
And so hook, line, and sinker they all took the bait,
all his lies about making America great.

Now the Pantsuited One she was smart and prepared,
she was brilliant and steady but none of them cared,
no they cared not to see all the work that she’d done,
or the fact that the Trump had not yet done thing one.
They could only shout “Emails!”, yes “Emails!” they’d shout,
because Fox News had told them—and Fox News had clout. 
And the Pantsuited One she was slandered no end,
and a lie became truth she could never defend.
And the Trump watched it all go according to plan—
a strong woman eclipsed by an insecure man.

And November the 8th arrived, finally it came,
like a slow-moving storm but it came just the same.
And Tuesday became Wednesday as those days will do,
And the night turned to morning and the nightmare came true,
With millions of non-voters still in their beds,

Yes, the Trump he had done it, just like he had said.

And the Trumpers they trumped, how they trumped when he won,
All the racists and bigots; deplorable ones,
they crawled out from the woodwork, came out to raise Hell, 
they came out to be hateful and hurtful as well.
With slurs and with road signs, with spray paint and Tweets,

with death threats to neighbors and taunts on the street. 
And the grossest of grossness they hurled on their peers,
while the Trump he said zilch—for the first time in years.

But he Tweeted at Hamilton, he Tweeted the Times,
And he trolled Alec Baldwin a few hundred times,
and he pouted a pout like a petulant kid,
thinking this is what Presidents actually did,
thinking he could still be a perpetual jerk,
terrified to learn he had to actually work,
work for every American, not just for a few,
not just for the white ones—there was much more to do.
He now worked for the Muslims and Mexicans too,
for the brown, black, and tan ones, and the ones who vote blue.
They were all now his bosses, now they all had a say,
and those nasty pantsuited ones were here to stay.
And the Trump he soon realized that he didn’t win,
He had gotten the thing—and the thing now had him.

And it turned out the Trump was a little too late,
for America was already more than quite great,
not because of the sameness, the opposite’s true,
It’s greatness far more than just red, white, and blue,
It’s straight, gay, and female—it’s Gentile and Jew,
It’s Transgender and Christian and Atheist too.
It’s Asians, Caucasians of every kind,
The disabled and abled, the deaf and the blind,
It’s immigrants, Muslims, and brave refugees,
It’s Liberals with bleeding hearts fixed to their sleeves.
And we are all staying, we’re staying right here,

and we’ll be the great bane of the Trump for four years.
And we’ll be twice as loud as the loudness of hate,

be the greatness that makes our America great.
And the Trump’s loudest boasts they won’t ever obscure,
over two million more of us—voted for her.

 

418 thoughts on “How the Trump Stole America

        • I am confident that he will be. He is too much of a loose cannon and since he seems to think he has been elected emperor, since he has no working knowledge of the Constitution and the constitutional process, since he has so far failed to create a truly blind trust and will break the law called emolument, even a GOP House will be forced to investigate and recommend the Senate impeach.

          He will certainly create high crimes and misdemeanors.

          Of course we will be stuck with that hate-filled Pence.

          I wonder if Pence will be stuck with Trump’s reprehensible Cabinet choices or can he create a new Cabinet?

          • Appearances can be deceiving.

            Choosing to take away the right of adult women to make decisions over what happens to their own bodies, and recommending conversion therapy be funded instead of AIDS treatment for gays, is not what I consider “kind.”

              • How naive of you Joe.

                So you admit your lack of experience reveals a lack of knowledge.

                I know Atheists who are pro life and LGBT people who are pro life.

                • yeah that’s how organized churches work as well…

                  …we welcome you but if you see abuses don’t talk about it AND don’t you dare criticize us…

                  …in other words leave us alone to act as oppressively as we want…

                  … lets us be free so we can take away the liberties of others or be gone!

                  …there is no way you can convince people to go backwards when America has come so far…

                  …no way George you have no right to order people out…

                  …. let people lift up their voices against oppression and injustice !

                • Sorry. Your position not ours is unamerican. People who have different opinions have the same right as you to express their opinion.We are all citizens of this great country. Don’t ask for dissenting citizens to leave. It will become a precedent for you to be told to leave when what goes around then comes around. You need to educate yourself so that you. can make a cogent comment instead of spouting drivel .

                • Not the same logic. All Americans have the same right to our country, and to use our democratic principles to make it work the best we can, which includes protest. People that want the Federal Government out of everything except women’s uterus’ are imposing their beliefs on other people. Different thing.

                • I’ve heard of bad losers, but these Trump supporters/defenders have perfected the sense of poor winners. Gracious winners is a lovely concept, but not with the example set by trump.

              • You just go to the wrong church. Many churches state that abortion should remain between a woman and her doctor, based on first breath, which is far more reasonable than what y’all scratch together as an excuse to get up in your womens’ business.

              • Also, you state that you don’t know any Christians who are pro-choice. Perhaps the fact that you seem judgemental and overbearing affects how people, especially women, talk around you. I don’t freely share my opinions with fundies, especially men asking me about my reproductive organs, for fear. Now, at my own church, I will, because that’s my church’s understanding also. Out in public, or at another church I don’t know well? I just avoid the issue.

              • “Someone has to speak for those who can’t.” How sad that you stop speaking for them as soon as they draw breath. Starving a child, denying him medical care, providing a substandard education, not defending him when he’s abused, that’s not “kind” either. Forcing a woman to bear her rapist’s child isn’t “kind,” nor is forcing her to carry a sick and unviable fetus to term, or a dead one until it makes her septic, but then, women don’t really count, do they, being only walking incubators for fetuses in your world.

              • You lot seem to have a corner on goodness, kindness, ethics, love, etc. Also judgement, intolerance, hatred, moral superiority. You don’t get to tell me how to think or behave. I don’t break laws, I don’t judge those who don’t judge me.

              • You know one thing that won me on Trump?

                He was against aborting 8 month old babies.
                He probably will leave the 200 year old furniture “in”
                the White House too.
                The last time the Clintons left, so did the furniture.

          • If I had not read the headlines I would swear you were talking about the lying pantsuited one! She slept thru the murder of 4 great men, she lied about her e-mails, !& can you imagine what it would be like to be one of her security guards when she lets loose on one of her vulgar degrading of secret service ppl when she doesn’t get her way! & is it any wonder they call her jet broom stick one!!

            • You have been purchased by the fake Hillary stories, so many lies. Try to find a source other than Fox or Brietbart and check your info. First google how many men died under Bush and no one even let out a sigh. These posts are not safe, documents have proven Hillary tried to increase the protective force in the area Congress refused to appropriate money. Just do a bit of honest investigative work.

            • Oh no! The emails! She’s not president. Trump is. Had ANY president acted near as insane as he has, they would have been electrocuted the way Pence wants to do to homosexuals. And, yes, (spoiler alert!) politicians lie?! But, the delusional scale at which this entire administration lies, with overwhelming evidence to the contrary! Totally insane, or mentally deficient, as are his supporters.

              • you liberals are the most disgusting , insane, poor losers on earth.you are almost as big a threat to the world as isis…

          • I’m all for acceptance and I think it is wrong to judge, so I hate those I don’t really know , because I hear a lot of bad things about them. so they must be horrible, evil people. But it’s okay because I am all for love, and against judging, BUT I get to judge and condemn other people (for some reason, perhaps it is because I am judged to be on the right side) … I guess as long as I believe in the red letters, I’m good with going against the non-red lettters, or even the red letters as well, it doesn’t really matter, as long as we are against those evil people we don’t know, and whom we have tried and condemned based on what we have heard.

            • Yeah, it is confusing. I think the current rules (they change, and they are different, depending on how politically correct you are, and how much you hate others in the name of love) for judging are that it is ok to judge, even good to judge and condemn others, as long as you are against judging. You get extra freedom in condemning others if you won’t admit that your judging of others defeats your stance on judging. You get EXTRA credit and freedom to condemn others when you are hateful while condemning others (a false condemnation is preferable) for “hate”.

              • It seems your street cred goes up the more you judge when you are against judging, the more your judgments of others are false, the more hateful you are…while claiming to be all for love and acceptance and tolerance.

                • Don’t forget that the more you are a social justice warrior, the more zealous you are against injustice, the more freedom you have to create multiple injustices by freely falsely judging and condemning others (in the name of love and justice). You don’t even have to care at all about THOSE injustices because, well, they are evil people (yet, we have falsely condemned them as evil…in the name of love and justice).

                  • Actually social justice is about stirring up those who are well off—to inspire them to care about helping those who are disadvantaged, poor, disabled, sick and hungry.

                    Jesus taught that the wealthy who have ease and comfort should share their wealth and give to those who lacked— rather than keep everything they have for themselves.

                    Jesus also taught us to welcome and embrace those who are different and estranged from the main group.

                    Jesus was inclusive.

                    The point is in times of trouble and injustice we must wake up and participate in whatever way we can and not sit back or say nothing.

                    • The point, and definition, of social justice keeps changing. What is even worse: justice (or injustice) needs a standard by which to judge them by, yet the standard in the SJ movement is not fixed, instead it shifts, it is ambiguous, it subjective and is based on feelings, and even hatred (as revealed in this post, and the comments). There are many other exceptionally harmful things about the current notion of SJ, but another huge one is that is based on false accusations, falsehoods and false judgments of others and SJ ideology comes from notions that have proven deadly, deceitful and destructive, yet this is lauded and adored by those who refuse to look at history/facts, and go on good intentions and utopian goals. Lastly, this all points to the people who are judging what is justice, or injustice…how can we look to those people for justice and judgment when they have demonstrated not just a lack of judgment, not just a pattern of judging when they judge that it is wrong to judge, but continually throw out false judgments and condemnations of others … and then reveal they do not care about those false accusations and the hurt they do those individuals, and how this destroys dialogue and society. AND they do so in the name of justice, love, “Christianity,” Jesus, acceptance, inclusivity, unity, etc?

                    • I don’t think it is correct to say the definition of social justice has changed. But people have blurred the definition by making false claims against those who fight for social justice .

                      It would be helpful if you gave an example

          • Are you serious? You current president has trounced the constitution for 8 year making recess appointments, executive orders that trampled rights, using a press conference to arbitrarily change a law. Race baiting an entire nation over any percieved slight to his emminence and NOW you want to refer to the constitution? From a previous Clinton voter, Hillary is a despicable human who never even deserved to be a senator let alone the president. She has failed at every portion of her miserable existence going all the way back to being fired from the watergate investigation for being unethical. She is a disgusting criminal of the highest order and the fact all of you are shedding tears over her loss is proof that modern liberalism is a mental disorder.

            Suck it up cupcakes, you dont always get what you want and thank god for the sake of this country you didn’t get it this time or that bought and paid for shill for every major corporation and tin pot dictator would have sold us off to the highest bidder.

            • Jeremy, They are delusional. They actually BELIEVE the trash they spew. Thank God we won the election, and can start undoing the damage the Democrats have wrought.

              • Well since Republicans have lied for years they are well immersed in delusions,

                such as thinking they are deserving of holding the reigns of power and that gives them the authority to rule over people rather than be public servants.

                such as thinking they can ignore the needs of the poorest people in the nation to achieve their selfish ends.

                don’t expect people to submit to your oligarchy.

                • Speaking of lying and delusions …

                  “such as thinking they are deserving of holding the reigns of power and that gives them the authority to rule over people rather than be public servants.”

                  Not only a false assertion, it is nonsensical, and it is merely repeating what others have said (and believing lies and delusions)

                  “such as thinking they can ignore the needs of the poorest people in the nation to achieve their selfish ends.”

                  Not only another horrific false accusation and judgment and condemnation, it is a sweeping generalization that goes in the opposite direction of truth (if that matters). This, too, is merely a repeated talking point that many fall for, are deceived by, and repeat…

                  While “Republicans” (or ANY political group) are far from perfect, and are not the ultimate solution, their policies/beliefs do NOT “ignore” these people, in fact, they are designed infinitely more to help them (yes, personal responsibility is a value, it is a belief, it is necessary to ultimately over come and succeed, while relying on handouts and welfare are ultimately very destructive…which is a major tenet of liberalism/Democrats)

                  • I listen to what Trumps says and what Paul Ryan says. They say a lot that is recored on video right?

                    It is first hand news.

                    So when Paul Ryan says in a news conference.”Trump had earned a mandate to enact his agenda.” That means he will not listen to the people but do what he wants. Trumps agenda is to be a public servant not a dictator

                    • As well both conservatives and liberals have valid perspectives and can work together to solves issues. Collaboration has better results than division.

                  • I wonder what it must be like, living in that little bubble you’ve created for yourself! Thank God truly educated people still exist, and that crap you’re slewing is gonna come right back around in your face, but you won’t have Hillary and Obama to blame forever, CUPCAKE.

            • “Bought and paid-for shill for every major corporation”?? President Obama? You really, really need to pull your head out of your backside, turn off Faux News and put down that keg of Kool-Aid. What you describe is precisely what Trumpty Dumpty and his marvelous cabinet of billionaire thieves intend to do to America.

          • You don’t have to raise your voice to create hateful, dangerous policies. He might be kind toward those he approves of, but he disapproves of most who aren’t just like him.

          • You don’t want to say that to any woman, poor person, black or brown or tan one, or anyone who votes blue. There are a lot of us out there, and that wolf in sheep’s clothing is anything but kind except to rich white people. Just wait until comes after your Social Security, healthcare and Medicare. You might not think he’ so kind anymore.

            • You know one thing that won me on Trump?

              He was against aborting 8 month old babies.
              He probably will leave the 200 year old furniture “in”
              the White House too.
              The last time the Clintons left, so did the furniture.

            • Trump hasn’t even taken office yet.
              And as far as abortion, if it will affect the mothers health or it’s a rapists’ child then yes. Give the mother the option.
              What does that amount to?
              3% of all abortions?

          • Pence is also a sellout to the rich that has taken money to lie about lot of truths, they are all out to gut SS and medicare so we are screwed either way.

          • The House has the power to impeach, which means indict. “Impeachment” only means “bring to trial”. Clinton was impeached, then not convicted by the Senate.

            The Senate is where the trial is held, presided over by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. If the Senate convicts, the pres is booted from office.

            No president has been convicted to date.

          • I believe trumps cabinet is being handpicked by pence. Pence is probably more evil than trump, so impeaching trump is not going to help us.

          • Pence is a fan of shock therapy for gay kids. He is also a fan of forced pregnancies. He defunded Planned Parenthood which led to a huge AIDS outbreak. A more wicked man cannot be found.

          • Nope! He is much too interested in what women do with their bodies and their lives. Why would you think that is okay??? Would you like him to micro-manage your bodily health???

          • Wondering where the hate in Mr. Pence is..He is definitely a Christian man and seemingly humble.
            Tell me what you see…I can’t see it..Thank you

            • are you saying christians are never hateful? Let’s start by de-funding AIDS research and instead use the money for forcing (or trying to) gays to change their sexuality. That’s really a whole bunch of kindness, isn’t it?

          • You obviously didn’t live in IN, the man is filled with his righteous hate, only certain people our allowed is his universe, others are not worthy. IN is happy to see him go, most in Congress do not get along with him.

          • You are right— Pence indeed LOOKS LIKE a very decent, kind and generous man. But appearance is not reality in this case. Mike Pence’s obdurate rejection of gay and transgender people has made many in Indiana feel ashamed. His determination to burn down Planned Parenthood and leave women with no options for self choice is boundless in its zeal. And since many of the worst of Trump’s appointments turn out to be straight from Indiana, we can assume that Pence is the one suggesting them—Environmental Protection Secretaries that do not believe in climate change, Labor Secretaries that despise unions and do not believe the minimum wage should be raised; an Education Secretary who wants to obliterate public education and turn it over to private companies to make money out of; someone to head Medicaid who turned Indiana’s medicaid program into one in which the recipients have to pay for it or they don’t receive it. Trump himself is probably not an ideologue. Mike Pence is. And that is what makes him maybe even more so but at least equally as dangerous as Donald Trump.

          • To Joe Catholic:
            Obviously you aren’t a so called minority or gay. Or are you blind and deaf? Sure, he’s kind and humble, to his own kind (white and christian) but what about the rest of the human race?

          • How humble of him to hate gays and minorities in the name of god. What a noble person. “And Jesus said, “Just electrocute the shit out of the gay ones” ” Luke 18:90
            Douche. I was raised catholic, but my church preached love for everyone. You have to be some kind of egocentric cunt to think that you know what is right. Why do I have the impression that you’re also a creationist? Yeah , screw science and real evidence. Go ride your woolly mammoth, moron. Or maybe, try using “logic”! ?

          • Yeah, Joe Catholic – except for the whole “gays are the fount of all evil” and “Bible thumpers are being persecuted in this country” BS that he’s always espoused. Oh, and the patriarchal BS too – let’s not forget that. Otherwise, he’s swell.

            And John Pavlovitz – that poem was epic and brilliant. It should be published everywhere!

      • I just hope somebody (don’t forget his party controls both houses of Congress) manages to impeach him before he starts a nuclear WWIII by shooting nukes at somebody who “said something mean” to him. He’s so easily baited it’s terrifying.

        • Remember that his party really doesn’t like him. I betcha they are already discussing what they can impeach him for. Personally, I would have thought embezzling from the Trump Foundation, bribing the Attorney General of Fl, admitting to fraud with Trump University, employing undocumented workers, rape, sexual assault and molestation, not paying people who worked for him, not paying taxes, would give anyone enough rope.

          As for nuclear war, there are a lot of military who have said they would not obey any such order.

          • He didn’t do any of that as president, so none of it would be an impeachable offense. One might think it would have been enough to keep him out of office, but with the help of the FBI and Russia, there he is.

      • I can’t imagine in my lifetime the liberal agenda would allow killers, haters , bad people to walk across the border to kill, rape, and steal and you think it’s ok. It’s all in GOd’s plan, says so in His Book… pretty good reading, you liberals need to try reading it.

        • I’ve read the book many times and realize that God’s hand is in everything that happens and part of his plan. It is up to each of us to determine exactly what God’s plan is for us and what lesson we are to take from Trump being elected. God gave us free will so I never blame God for bad things that happen. I pray to him for guidance. If this election has done nothing more then open our eyes to the terrible divisiveness in this country. If it makes us realize that bigotry, misogyny and racism are still alive and well and we do something to fix that, then perhaps we will achieve God’s plan.

        • Sorry, but where were you in the seventies? Nixon was breaking and entering, wide-spread bribery, lying about a war, 58,000 casualties, 40+ people in his admin were found guilty of something, many imprisoned, and he lied about it all. If you’re too young to remember it, read a book or stop talking about something you don’t know. Try Teddy White’s ‘Breach of Faith.’

      • Fershur you liberal idiots need to get over it. YOU LOST! Live with! You people have become the laughing stock of America!????????????????????????????????????????

    • Very bold writing.

      From what I observed of Trump and his campaign this is pretty close to describing his rise and success.

      I remembering watching a video of Trump when he was speaking at one of his rallies and he said “are there any Christians here?” He smirked and said “Raise you hands” he lifted his hands like a conductor, like a puppeteer, so smug and in control of the crowd. There were cheers and clapping.

      Then he asked those who aren’t Christians to raise their hands and jokingly questioned whether he should “keep them in the room.” Divide and conquer people. That’s how he fooled people….

      …Especially the religious leaders who support Trump. They make the phrase in the Bible true…

      ….Blind guides! You strain your water so you won’t accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel!

      • Get beyond this ridiculousness people! Do you really think the moaning and criticism will reverse anything? He is our president-Elect and we need to accept the results. I happened to have voted for him because Hillary was certainly not acting presidential in any way … i.e., troubles with Benghazi errors and poor judgment overall. She did not appear to be ready to lead anything capably. If it had gone the other way and she was nominated, I would have been disappointed but can guarantee would not have carried on and whined incessantly! ! Thanks for allowing me to vent … vent over, and time to look forward, get on board, and act like adults! What must the kids be thinking???

        • Republicans didn’t accept Obama was our president for 8 years…they promised to vote no on everything he did…why are the rules different for different folks?
          People can’t get over feeling like they aren’t a part of this country.
          Make America great again had nothing to do with Jesus or government, but a government for only a select people.

        • So, Sandra, you find the following “presidential,” do you? Authoritarianism, bigotry, climate change denial, con artistry, discrimination, fascism, flagrant lying, gynophobia, homophobia, intolerance of what is different, lack of knowledge of the Constitution and Constitutional process, misogyny, racism, rape, sexual assault and molest, transgenderphobia, white supremacy, and xenophobia do not fit any definition of “presidential;” with which I am familiar.

          • Choice is an American freedom, like countless others. I support comprehensive reproductive health care – the kind that helps prevent the need for any woman having to make that difficult choice, but it is a choice.

            • Just as horrendous as the war machine in the US that sends its youth to kill and be killed maimed for profit.

              For profit.

              Not protection but profit

              They make money making war.

              The sickening thing is we lie to the people that there is glory and honor in war when there is only suffering and perpetuation of hostilities.

              Greed and power causes war

              Vengeance causes rebellion.

              The way of peace we know not.

              It is better to have not been born into this violent wicked world.

              Wars have caused. a thousand times more suffering and death than abortion ever will.

              We need to focus on the weighter matters.

              • Frankly you are ill-informed and are either ignorant because you don’t know history or ignorant because you choose to not look at the facts

                “…what we see historically is that Roe v. Wade faced six Republican-appointed Justices, five of whom ruled in favor of Roe. Had only four of the six opposed protecting abortion under the Constitution, January 23, 1973 would not have inaugurated the legalized slaughter of 40 million Americans to date.”

                and

                “It is long past time that we face reality: Roe vs. Wade exists today because of “pro-life” Republican presidents.

                I know it is fashionable for conservative Republicans to blame Democratic Presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter for the continuance of the American Holocaust, but such partisan rhetoric betrays the undeniable facts of history.

                In 1992, when the entire nation expected Roe to be flung on the ash heap of history (by means of Casey versus Planned Parenthood), the Supreme Court shocked the world with a five to four vote upholding Roe.

                Three of those five justices were appointed by Presidents Reagan and Bush (the elder).

                The majority of the Justices that defended the “constitutional right” of killing the unborn were placed on the Supreme Court by “pro-life” Republican Presidents who said they wanted to overturn Roe. President Reagan appointed Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Kennedy; President Bush picked David Souter. These judges have blood on their hands. The children were betrayed; we were used.”

              • Dear Joe,
                Three things about pro -lifers make me extremely sad… and I think Jesus would also weep.
                1. There IS an area THAT Pro-choice and Pro-life could agree on and that is stopping pregnancy from happening by promoting responsible birth control use . But since that is not allowed in the discussion and in the end-
                blames is always put on the woman for her lack of morals- we can’t get to this REASONABLE place we could together work on !
                2. You value the sanctity of life- I know you do -AND what about the life after it ARRIVES? I have been a teacher and a foster care case worker and I have seen so many children unwanted, miss-treated and grow up to be frightening, needy an/or harmed/harmful adults!
                I wish some of your Pro-life energy was spread to the unwanted child who has BEEN born and needs help from his/her fellow man.
                3. And sadly, grieviuosly, anytime any life-threatening issues are brought up for discussion (as the Pope recognizes) the frightening possibilities for future climate change , the need to build bridges not walls with our fellow man on this fragile and beautiful planet , the need for hard-working (overworked) Americans to get decent affordable healthcare , your party -which I am guessing is Republican, always brings up abortion, abotiin, abortion. as a constant distractor, as a redirector, from ANY OTHER critically impoartant discussion. You arebeing politically blind- sided by one important issue in lieu of all other important issues! Please notice that we can never move into larger arenas of discussion of saving and promoting ALL life because corporate interest do not lie in those arenas. Please wake up to this reality.
                Sincerely ,
                Bess

            • Don’t engage him. He’s a troll and he does not thing but post the same single issue over and over. I’m sorry John hasn’t blocked him but I guess he’d just change this email anyway.

            • And the hundreds of thousands hearts that have been stopped since March, 2002 over wars that were based on total lies?? You’re not against them, too?

            • It is not murder.
              Until the fetus can survive outside of the body of the woman , it is not a separate human being and the difficult decision of whether it is best for the fetus and the woman for the pregnancy to be carried to term is up to the woman amd her health care provider.
              This Christian can support this decision.
              Having been a labor and delivery nurse before Roe vs. Wade , I know that women have always made that decision. Those with money and connections were able to have safe abortions, those without- turned up in the delivery suites near death from self induced or back alley abortions. But woman have always had abortions, the option must remain safe and legal . We cannot return to the days when women died .

          • Joe Catholic,
            I am a Christian and a lawyer, and I personally do not believe in abortion. However, as an attorney I do not believe it is possible to overturn Roe v Wade, because of both the first and fourth amendment. As Christians, we believe a fetus is a human life. All people do not believe this. Short of viability outside the womb, science cannot say it is or it isn’t. The Constitution does not allow us to outlaw something on the basis of religious belief. Since I don’t believe we will ever change the law and need instead to change hearts, I prefer to spend my vote on issues like poverty, justice and education that also affects millions of people. Please explain to me why you think that abortion is the only issue that matters or that it matters more than any other. Does God love the unborn more than the poor, the suffering, the starving, the tortured? Why don’t they matter too? I don’t understand one issue voting at the expense of all else. I’m sorry, but America is NOT a Christian country. It was never meant to be. Voting for people you hope will appoint judges whom you hope will overturn Roe v Wade seems like a bizarre way to vote unless you agree with them on other issues as well. And as history has shown – it hasn’t worked yet. I – and many other Christians – think there is more than one issue to be concerned about. So when “abortion” is the only reason someone can give for supporting a candidate, there really is no reason to have a discussion with that person.

            • Liz…everyone does agree that a fertilized egg is a Life. In fact, its the very definition of Life.

              Egg + Sperm=NEW LIFE.

              What we disagree on is what ‘Value’ do we ascribe to it?

              Christians value life because God values Life.

              The Hebrew word for ‘Mercy’, literally means ‘build a fence of protection around life.’

              May Americans have mercy on the unborn.

              • Everyone does not agree that a fertilized egg is a “life.” It’s a potential life, that very often — and speaking as a woman, I know of what I speak — does not survive in utero long enough to become an actual life.

                Fetuses ≠ life

              • @Paul: which Hebrew word are you referring to when you say that “[t]he Hebrew word for ‘Mercy’, literally means ‘build a fence of protection around life’? And, btw, not everyone agrees that “a fertilized egg is a Life. In fact, its (sic) the very definition of Life”. May all people have mercy on the already born.

            • You think CLINTON would have put enriching herself above the good of the country? CLINTON? But have no problem with the President-Elect who is already hawking his hotels to visiting dignitaries and making decisions to enrich himself? Someone with literally no record of public service? Uh, OK.

              And on the pro-life stance, really? You think “those who are against abortion usually have good hearts and minds and their policies reflect that.” Wow.

              Not very logical, are you?

              Take a look around the world and see just which countries still ban abortion, then come back to me with your explanation.

          • It is pro choice NOT pro abortion. No one is pro abortion. Pro abortion is genocide. More accurate terms would be pro choice and anti choice. Language is everything here.

            • ….why is destroying human Life called a ‘choice’ in the instance of unborn?

              I wish the Environmentalists would get on this abortion issue the same way they get on the oil & gas industry.

              [We could use some of their ruthless moralism.]

          • Well, we’ll have to disagree on that, won’t we.

            Until you can carry a fetus in your own uterus, please don’t tell me what to do with any fetuses in mine. You have no idea what kinds of decisions women are faced with. No one is making you or anyone else have an abortion. You CANNOT, and will nt, impose your archaic religious beliefs on the rest of the world.

          • The trump is not pro-life. He’s leaving it up to the states. He’s giving states a choice. Something he should afford women. Anywhooo… my suggestion to you is that you should never get an abortion.

          • And you are…. LYING. By the way, why did Hillary see it necessary to crawl in bed with a domestic terrorist group who called for the MURDER of police officers, and whose supporters actually DID murder police?

              • Let’s face it you have no proof just innuendo. Spreading false claims is lying. Printing facts is telling the truth.

                (you can’t make me believe in something you have no evidence of.)

                Even those who voted for Trump said yes we know he is reckless and aggressive but we want someone like him to kick butt.

                Well you voted for it, so stop trying to act like Trump is something good for all.

                You know very well he is only good for those who side with him.

                You want to force your world view down people’s throats rather than negotiate?

                You want to push people around and take away their rights?

                Get your fill being the bully then.

                But, don’t expect decent people to accept injustice.

        • Andrea Turek : Michelle Stone : ” I listened as they called my President a Muslim (as if it were a bad thing). I listened as they called him a monkey. I listened as they said he wasn’t born here. I watched as they blocked every single path to progress that they could. I saw the pictures of him as Hitler. I listened as they openly said that they will oppose him at every turn. I watched as they did just that. I listened and I watched and I paid attention. Now, I’m being called on to be tolerant. To move forward. To “Get over it.” To accept this…
          I will not. I will do my part to make sure this great American mistake becomes the embarrassing footnote of our history that it deserves to be, as quickly as possible. I will do my part to limit the damage that this man can do to my country. I will vote. I will watch his every move and point out every single mistake and misdeed in a loud and proud voice. Do not call for my tolerance. I’ve tolerated all I can. Now it’s their turn to tolerate ridicule. Be aware, make no mistake about it, every single thing that goes wrong in our country from this day forward is now Trump’s fault just as much as they thought it was Obama’s. I find it unreasonable for them to expect from me what they were entirely unwilling to give.
          They will find no shelter here. Amen.

          • What planet do you live on ? I know for a fact they did. I saw how people were treated durning the Obama administration.

            This is about mistreatment. Minorities
            LGBT people
            people of color immigrants
            women
            are mistreated more than anyone in our society. Thank God there is the Internet so people can resist and organize themselves and have a voice.

              • And about the Republican followers vilifying liberals after Obama was elected, it is true because I experienced it personally.

                I have someone in my life (who has no business watching Fox news). Yet it’s the only news he watches. He torments me and others with his rants about immigrants, muslims and LGBT people. he even writes letters and mails them to people he knows.

                It is oppressive. So much so that we have stopped talking to him for the most part because he doesn’t give us any peace. This went on for the last 8 years. Thankfully he wasn’t in the country during the election and we haven’t had to listen him. Such a relief he isn’t around . I think it’s a pity I feel that way and that he causes it.

            • Do you realize how many pregnancies end in spontaneous abortion, before a medical abortion can even be considered?

              Why don’t you concern yourself more with the many, many babies who have already been born and suffer every day due to insufficient food and shelter, illness, or trauma? To focus so much on the unborn fetuses of people you will never meet is a type of psychopathy. It is not “murder.”

              Furthermore, Trump does not give a rat’s ass about anyone’s unborn fetus. He cares even less about the working class people who carried him to victory.

              • Try having a rosary on a cross waved in front of your face …

                …like a weapon !!

                … and then you will know what it feels like to be attacked by people’s so-called prayers.

          • You Rock! Thank you for saying just how it is. I am a very good person who refuses to accept that I should be tolerant of the evil doing that is going on in our land with not only Trump and his choices, but those voters who supported him despite hearing in his own words and seeing him say horrible things–they covered for him, made excuses for him. I truly call them deplorable and will not make apology for that because as the old saying goes “if the shoe fits, wear it.” Now that same group of horrible people (and they are like him – thus horrible)–well they want us to get over this; they want us to be tolerant and shut up because they know that our voices like our votes were more than theirs. Hillary won by over 2.5 million in the popular vote…so all you Trumsters—you get over it…because for whatever time he is in office, we are going to speak often and loudly. We are not elitists. We are people who are not going to be the silent majority. We are going to be vocal. So you get over it!

          • Which ‘paths to progress’ of Obama’s were blocked?

            I can’t think of any.

            It was Obama’s disregard for the middle road, that got us where we are now, Trump nomination, and election.

            Thanks a lot for nothing Mr Obama.

            • I see that you are now turning into the mean-spirited bitch that your buddy David warns us about all the time. I was wondering when the charade would end and everyone would see that you are just another typical fundie. Congratulations!!!

              • Joe Catholic do you have a spiritual director?

                if you do, you need to come clean about your comments and participation in this blog.

                you need to take care of your spiritual health.

            • Disagree. It was the fake news purveyors and their hysteria, that somehow convinced millions of seemingly reasonable adults that Hillary was a monster. It was the working class who saw their purchasing power decline and blamed Obama for the failure of the Congress to act. It was not Obama’s “failure to compromise” or whatever it is you imagine.

          • Why? What possible benefit will a “more conservative Supreme Court” (than the one that Scalia served on!? Please!) provide to this country?

            No, I cannot be happy about that prospect.

          • Thank you Andrea. I feel exactly the same way you do. I will be as tolerant of trump as they were of President Obama and nothing more.

        • “He’s our president elect and we need to accept the results.” Let me guess, you’ve spent the last eight years carping and insulting Obama and his family, questioning not only his place of birth, but his competence, his religion, his judgement and his humanity, but now that a demonstrated liar, a known fraud, a self-admitted molester has the office, we’re supposed to just fall in line and quietly accept it? Don’t think so, Scooter. Like letting John Wayne Gacy in a locker room of teenage boys and saying, “Well, he’s in here now, so let’s give him a chance.” So, to be fair, we’ll give him the same chance you gave Obama…

          • Some of us had loved ones who died at Jonestown. So stop the flippant use of “drank the Kool-aid” out of respect for our grief. You don’t need to know ahead of time that someone suffered a loss, just think about what you say before you let it shoot out your mouth or off your fingertips.

            My beloved goddaughter was four when her parents murdered her.

            So STF up about Kool aid

              • Thank you, Lulu, for your compassion and condolences. It was horrible to live through. Although the rawness has diminished, the grief will always be with me.

                I have become pretty well informed on cults and various popular modern heresies as a result. There are a couple of prolific contributors to the comments here that appear to be cult members.

          • Here’s something I don’t understand. How is it that Hillary is personally responsible for the deaths of four people but George W. Bush, who had been informed by the CIA that an attack was imminent, is not responsible for the deaths of everyone affected by 9/11/01 including the first responders who died that day and in later years from illnesses related to that.

            Plus the Republicans didn’t want to give the first responders the aid they needed.

            Plus the Republicans have admitted that they drummed up the Benghazi thing as a witch hunt and they knew she had done nothing wrong.

            Why is that the Republicans are not blamed? They are the ones who cut the budget for security at our embassies.

    • Trump made a good pick:

      Ben Carson will be a successful Secretary of Dept of Housing & Urban Development (he has deep knowledge & understanding and desire to help poor inner city communities; like the one he grew up in. )

      Democrat Leader Nancy Pelosi said Ben Carson is ‘disturbingly unqualified’ for the position.

      • Ms Pelosi is 100% correct. Carson demonstrated his stupidity on more than one occasion when he was campaigning. He doesn’t seem to care about the poor at all. If he did, he wouldn’t be a Republican.

        Now you are going to come back at me and say neither do the Democrats except the witness of history is that is with me.

      • Ben Carson was a superb pediatric neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore before his retirement. He knows just about all there is to know about operating on brains, and shockingly little else–unless you believe that Egypt’s pyramids were built as grain silos, as Carson does. He knows nothing at all about housing or urban development, beyond the fact that he lives in a house and worked in a city. Thank God for career bureaucrats, who are going to be the people who run the government for the next however-many years it takes to run Trump out of office.

        • That Other Jean, I have thought of Carson as a savant because pediatric neurosurgery appears to be all that he knows.

          I also think he must suffer from either a shocking degree of lack of self-respect or he has an ego that equals the size of Trump’s because I can’t figure out how he would agree to serve in Trump’s cabinet given the truly nasty things Trump has said about Carson, even after he had Carson’s endorsement. can’t figure out how he would agree to serve in Trump’s cabinet given the number of white supremacists, bigots, racists, Trump has already appointed.

      • Nancy Pelosi is disturbingly unqualified to comment negatively toward anything Dr. Ben Carson says or does!! He has her out-classed by a country mile!

        • Nancy Pelosi has served our country with distinction and honor. Carson, OTOH, despite all archaeological evidence, holds to the delusion that the pyramids of Egypt were grain silos.

          Please stop following fake news such as Fox, Liberty, etc.

      • Evidently, Cathy Maner, you may be uninformed about the grounds for impeachment. A President can only be impeached for “high crimes and misdemeanors,” as it says in the Constitution. As Obama is innocent of such things, one can only wonder at your obvious prejudice against him. Is it his skin color, I wonder?

    • While the hate-filled, unloving, inaccurate, unrestricted/undiscerned judging and condemning, and harmful false accusations (yes, this is mixed with some truth; yet see Genesis 3:1-5; yes, there are many real concerns about Trump) in the “Trump stole Christmas” screed is deeply disturbing, while it is self-defeating, while it clashes with God’s Word…even the “red letters,” and while…because of all this…we could call this VERY sinful and sin-filled, the bigger concern is VERY few seem to care, at all, about the sinful, false, unloving, hate, judgmental-while-making-false-judgments . Furthermore, it is praised by many who likely state that it is wrong to judge, wrong to condemn, wrong to falsely accuse, wrong to spread false accusations, wrong to mock out leaders and disrespect those in authority. But, again, the bigger problem is there is no real concern about all THAT, it is mainly about spreading the false narratives that have been bought into, and repeated, without thinking them through. The main response(s) to something like this is to mock, falsely accuse, redirect, attack, distort…kind of like the response in blog post above…and to do so in the name of love and Jesus.

      • You don’t get it, it’s ok for people like this to do these things, to knowingly violate their own standards/and not admit it, because their heart is in the right place (judging, hating, and falsely condemning others in the name of Christ, in the name of love).

    • He won’t be impeached. The Republicans OWN the House and the Senate. Soon they’ll own the Supreme Court too. They have no intention of impeaching Trump no matter what he does. He is the perfect puppet. They will turn a blind eye to every lie, every criminal act, all of his business conflicts, every emolument he receives. They won’t do anything. And their Deplorables will continue to re-elect him as he takes away their Medicare, their Social Security, their jobs. They will still elect every Republican liar and cheat.

    • We can and we will. But pressure needs to be exerted on Jason Chaffetz, the chairman of the House Oversight and Budget Reform Committee, who would be the group to investigate Trump’s conflicts of interest under the Emoluments Clause. Chaffetz is notorious for not taking emails or phone calls from anyone outside his Utah congressional district. But if you are a constituent of another member of that committee, please contact them and ask that they do their constitutional duty to defend the Constitution and that they exert pressure on Chaffetz to do the same. This is not a Democrat vs. Republican issue. This is a patriot’s issue. This is an American issue. This is an issue of whether or not some people are exempt from their oath to obey, protect, and defend the Constitution.

    • Sadly, I don’t believe anything will happen unless the 65 million who did not vote for him, start to get involved.
      It’s up to the citizens to start making it clear they won’t tolerate trump.

    • Good luck with that, for once he’s in power, the abuse of the power is far reaching and near impossible to stop. The time for action is now, before the final inauguration transpires. DT will not let loose of the reins easily and will use the law to his advantage. If your concern is genuine, I suggest you react now while you still have the chance and the freedom of your opinion.

    • Wow Pastor John, that was perfectly said as always, I look forward to waking up just to see what you say, Thanks again for saying what we are feeling Just keep up the great work!

  1. Well,now, John, I’ve been wondering why I hadn’t heard from you and now I know. You’ve been working on this.

    I love it. It tells truth in a very entertaining manner. Thank you.

    Of course, the trolls will really be out in force, so brace yourself.

    It’s not that they disagree that makes them a troll, although those who are troll claim that’s the reason. What makes a person a troll is when they write in a repellant fashion and say things like “John, is an idiot, no longer a Christian” or other judgemental, nasty, rude, and vituperative things they choose to say.

    What makes a person a troll is that they choose to write in demeaning, disrespectful, invalidating language. One troll in particular responds to every single comment, regardless of whether it is addressed to that troll or not. He has to have the last word in every conversation. He has a pathological obsession with oner issue and his ego is fed with everyone who mistakenly thinks he can be reasoned with.

    Then there are the trolls who are not as prolific but write just as nastily.

    If you voted for Trump or a third party, I hope you will enjoy the destruction of the planet, the destruction of democracy, the destruction of women, children, the elderly, the destruction of anyone who is not a millionaire.

    Please don’t try to tell me any Christians voted out of ignorance because there is no excuse for ignorance in a society as information-rich, as information-saturated as is the USA.

    Please fon’t tell me you follow this blog and out of ignorance voted for the Republicans because John and any number of the rest of us have been telling you exactly why you should not vote for them and we even provided you with proof that you have been lied to and you choose to ignore the truth.

    So you did not vote as you did out of ignorance, you did it as a result of choosing to remain misinformed. You chose to reject the Gospel.

    • This is one of the most mean spirited things I’ve read in a long time. You have met the troll and his name is John Pavlovitz a man pretending to be a pastor.

      • A very dark piece of writing. I think its depraved and brings readers hearts & minds down with no place to go. Depressing –not uplifting to Christians who need encouragement and support.

        • TROLL ALERT due to the judgemental language used.

          I guess people who don;t like this have never read “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” by Dr Seuss.

          Christians need the truth more than they need warm fuzzies. Christians need to think for themselves, not stick their heads in the sand.

          • I don’t mind judging, I do mind when the judging is not accurate.

            I do mind when those who are against judging freely judge.

            I do mind when many judgments are made, along with many false accusations.

            I do mind when people say they are for love, for acceptance, for tolerance, but have little to no tolerance, are very unaccepting and elitist, and are hateful

            I do mind when people judge but have little to no regard for truth, and do so in the name of love.

            I do mind when people are zealously against injustice but proliferate injustices through their poor judgment, false judgment, and lack of judgment, and flat out false accusations (not to mention judging the guilty to be innocent).

            I do mind, perhaps most of all, those who repeat platitudes and talking points that are political correct and then claim to be thinking for themselves.

            • Yes, you can accurately call out these folks on their failures and self-defeating beliefs and actions, good luck with getting them to acknowledge any truth about their flagrant errors.

        • it’s hypocritical that you want to be affirmed when you once posted on this blog (paraphrasing) that Jesus will be coming back to wage war and it will be a greatest blood bath ever seen.

            • and LG don’t tell me I cannot post your name it is visible on your hover card for everyone to see including where you live. If you don’t want to be known use a different profile.

              • Leslie has been told this before and she ignores it every single time.

                Leslie is a troll. Used to post as Paul Inberea, Paul Smith, and now Paul. Oops I responded to Paul. I am guilty of feeding a troll with whom it is not possible to have a rational conversation because she refuses to read evidence, facts, when offered to her as a way to combat the lies she believes.

      • Agree this is a divisive piece of garbage. I am sad John that you have bought in to the luke warm feel good Christianity where everyone goes to heaven no matter what the road.

        14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

        15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

        16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

        17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

        18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
        19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

        20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

        He comes swiftly – The Remnant – Will Hold Fast

        • carolyn… thank you for the beautiful bible scripture that God spoke to any who have an ear. Truth that always was, is, and will be Truth.

          I can’t help but think that there was hope for the Oakland artists that died in the warehouse fire. That they all called on Jesus in the midst of the flames & horrid altars to Baal. There were Buddha, Ganesh, Kali, & Shiva statues everywhere, but none could save.

        • 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

          Sounds to me like God describing the Republican Party and its true condition.

          • The warnings in the Bible are there for the individual to look inside their heart and see if there is any wrong thing they need to confess and give up or stop doing; or any thing they lack spiritually. And to pray for God’s help to overcome those things that hinder them. Look at yourself.

            We need to stop using scripture to accuse and condemn others, rather we need to confess and repent when we see those things in ourselves.

            May God give us ears to hear correction and eyes to see our failings and the humility to forgive others as he would forgive us.

      • Nope. I didn’t. Trolls name names and make personal comments. I merely reflected on the history of this blog. Truth is truth.

        I also was not judgemental. There is a difference between being judgemental and using judgement, i.e. the critical thinking skills wich which God endowed people. Too few people, in my opinion, understand the difference and too few people, in my opinion, fail to use their critical thinking skills.

        • Gloriamarie although passionate is not a troll. She tries to engage people while fiercely defending her position. She is not perfect and sometimes doesn’t back down when someone might have a strong position opposing hers. Lacking blog etiquette or posting volumes of comments doesn’t make one a troll.

          Meanwhile Joe Catholic is inflammatory and mean in his assessment of others and makes ridiculous assertions and assumptions about people. Often Joe Catholic will use slanderous words to instigate a negative response. He also has posted a comment in which he admits he uses two computers to make his comments. As well he admits to getting kicks out of watching people get upset.

          If you read the definition of internet troll below you can learn more about how to avoid such behaviour yourself.

          In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.

          • “Passionate” is the word to describe me.

            I really wish that people would stop feeding the trolls because in so doing we buy into their dysfunction and participate in it.

            There is a definition of insanity which I am certain we have all heard. “Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

            Please note that there is a troll who responds to every single thing every single one of us writes. Please ignore this person, do not engage. Stop feeding the ego and the dysfunction.

            • I don’t think you can stop people from responding to comments. People will have to learn for themselves when to speak and when to hold back. This is how we learn.

              • Did I say I was trying to stop anyone from doing anything? No, I didn’t. I merely said what I wished and why I wished it.

                No need to contradict me for something I never said.

              • She doesn’t bother me.

                What bothers me is snakes that bite and poison people with their insults and mean comments.

                As far as I have seen Gloriamarie tells it like it is and makes a case for her point of view. She is passionate.

                What bothers me about you Joe is you disrespect for people, how you needle them and slander people in the comment section without even making a case. It’s all just vague innuendo on your part.

            • no, no, no, remember the comment you made about how you were using two computers at the same time, you sounded kind of proud of yourself or maybe you were just exaggerating like you did about the slavery thing, and laughing at people’s misery.

              I don’t judge people Joe, but I do pay close attention to their words and behaviour and then I can form an opinion about them.

              Don’t you see this is what John Pavlovitz is doing. He has formed an opinion of Trump and it is all based on fact.

    • Make it a good Tennessee whiskey. Tennessee whiskey is not bourbon. In the world of brewing and distilling, Tennessee whiskey is officially recognized as a separate and distinct category of distilled spirit. Drink in moderation and do not drive under the influence. Merry Christmas.

  2. Not Stolen Like the politicians and opponents , full of lies and deciet . Just a change in the leadership . Away from the corruption created by 20 years of liars and decievers. When you make deception a way of life then its time for change. anything will do. America spoke and you heard them well . You may be the most liberal persons in the world and accept any lie . but we do not. In a world where the working poor are cheated out of what they earn and lied to over and over again. Well Were not going to take it anymore.
    Change in command , take out the cheats of washington that have been selling out america .

    • You are quite right. But the Democrats are clueless. They think Trump lied. He did not. Americans just rejected the failed liberal agenda that Hillary represented. But, the good news for conservatives is that the Democrats reelected Pelosi. That means more of the same failed policies. I’m so glad they have not caught on!

      • You say that ” Americans just rejected the failed liberal agenda…” but remember that out of those who voted, the majority voted for Hillary Clinton so your statement is incorrect.

      • My gosh. The number of lies it has been proven that have been spoken by Trump and the GOP so hugely outweighs the alleged lies the GOP claim Hillary told when it has been proven that the GOP made up those lies they told about her but instead people choose to cling to falsehoods, lies, misinformation and commit the sin of propagating those lies.

        It is Much Too Tragic that such cognitive dissonance exists.

    • Except that the biggest cheats ever have just been elected. People may have clung to lies and misinformation and think that they were voting for change, instead, people voted for those to whom the truth is irrelevant, the fate of the planet is irrelevant, the fate of their fellow citizens is irrelevant.

      People who voted for the GOP have not only murdered their fellow citizens, especially children and the elderly, but also the planet.

      All because people preferred to cling to lies.

      Thank you for creating a post-fact, post-truth USA.

    • It’s so exciting to see the ‘do-nothing’ bureaucrats being drained from the swamp …Compassionate Ben Carson is the opposite of greedy Washington sycophant . The sky is blue again! Thank you Mr Trump.

      • Except you are tragically mistaken in whom you are calling the do-nothing bureaucrats. Those are the Republicans who have consistently attempted to prevent any meaningful legislature take place for the past several years.

        Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

  3. This is absurd, and very bad poetry. The fact is Obama failed. His eight years were a disaster. People were fed up. Hillary thought she was so smart but she was clueless. She has no clue what America wants. Her years of deception made 80% of the Americans distrust her. Even 55% of those who voted for her.

    The fact is Trump was brilliant and touched the heart of America. Elitist Hillary did not resonate with voters.

    And stop the whining about the popular vote. The Electoral college is the law of the land. End of discussion.

    And Christians did not vote for Hillary because there os nothing remotely Christian about any of her views. So she just needs to disappear and play with her grandchildren.

    • John, you are telling lies. I know you believe them, but these are lies, they have been proven to be lies and you choose to reject truth. It is tragic for you.

      But what’s worse is that voting as you have done, you participate in many of the Seven Deadly Sins. You choose to vote for people who do not care is the children, the elderly, or the planet dies.

      Please repent of this evil and work together with us to oppose the haters.

        • Actually you are the one hiding and have been attacking Gloriamarie all along.

          She has been defending herself again you.

          You act like the bully from my observation.

          • Joe Catholic one thing Gloriamarie has that you do not have is integrity.

            As well everything contributes to this blog is to inform people.

            She is always saying look it up, do the research while all you do is insult people and label them.

            I honestly think you should let your priest read what you are writing on this blog and get his opinion.

            come clean with someone and let them know this side of you.

            Do it and listen to what your priest says.

        • That doesn’t do anything for the babies being killed by abortion. Why do you want that anyway? Don’t you have any compassion for them?

  4. Another great blog by such a genius., the words are profound and so true., the rhyming is so one., it was a joy to read it., and let the words hit my mind with the truth..Well done John., can’t wait to share this work of art..

  5. And the beat goes on!

    Remember all the vitriol starting 8 years ago and still strong today about a president who has done good things and not-so-good things?

    It is time! Time to put away the vitriol of today and begin the march for a compassionate , caring, inclusive, loving and on purpose America. The America that is great because we are diverse and out diversity is the greatness we can bring into clear focus.

    It is time!

    • Yes, it is time. The only way to accomplish this is by standing together to fight the hate, the lies, the misinformation, and the evil.

      We have victory today at Standing Rock. We must unite to protect all who will become victims of authoritarianism, bigotry, discrimination, gynophobia, homophobia, intolerance of that which is different, misogyny, racism, rape, sexual assault/molestation, transgenderphobia, white supremacy, and xenophobia.

      That is how we will get “a compassionate , caring, inclusive, loving and on purpose America. The America that is great because we are diverse and out diversity is the greatness we can bring into clear focus.”

  6. Thanks John. Great job. You keep us on the edge of our seats waiting for what you have to say. I can truly see why it was so easy to crucify Jesus while letting the murderer go free. I’m thankful He gave His life for me. Blessings.

  7. Yes, Hillary won! I have faith in the people of the United States. So far 2.5 million more preferred her and they’re still counting.

    Hey, John P. this is brilliant… just freakin’ brilliant.

  8. John this is wonderful. Not only is it a cool idea and fantastically worded, but it has helped me in a way I didn’t anticipate. I’ve been offline for almost a week, hiding from the news, trying to keep the stress lowered, trying to keep my mental illnesses from going over to the dark side.

    This piece has restored my will to fight.

    It reminds me that my anger is shared by many. That my sadness is shared by many. And that I can do something to make a difference. Because there are so very many of us who are afraid. And together, we can persevere through this.

  9. For those who are offended by John Pavlovitz sardonic take on the Grinch Who Stole Christmas think of this…

    …he is not condemning you but telling us and warning us that we have been and can be fooled by Trump….

    …there is a distinction.

    We are being warned to not be deceived….

    Deception is the sign of an unjust leader.

  10. Great work, John! Unfortunately, I don’t think that Trump’s heart will be growing three sizes on any day, and he will remain a self-centered blowhard who may well destroy our economy–and maybe the rest of the world’s–during his term in office.

    • I wish I could get my mind around this whole thing. My brain has been in a deep freeze since the election.

      I read the article about buyer’s remorse…seems obvious but I would have thought it would have set in sooner.

      • It’s a pity people didn’t realize how gullible they were to the con man.

        I can understand expressions of their anger because no one likes to be made a fool of. As people who voted for the GOP were.

        • Buying elections… are we really so blasé to the idea of buying elections? Are we really ok that we are turning into an oligarchy? Have we learned nothing from history about what happens to oligarchies?

  11. Joe Catholic! how are you? how’s the mark of the beast on your soul? You’ve been ignoring me you naughty little hypocrite.
    So now you’re telling us what Christians should do, huh? You can even assure us of what the new President will and wont do. Wow what power you must have to see the future..are you sure there’s not a little bit of wicked witch in you (wink wink)? Isn’t a President who’s considered pro life a bit of a contradiction, I mean he still may have to send soldiers out to die right? Being pro life is not all about abortion, there’s war, famine, executions, etc, etc. Hasn’t he said that he would bomb the living s**t out of people?
    Any how…that was one impressive ad you posted. I can see why you would sell your soul for a charmer like him, and at 30 pieces of silver; what a steal.
    Heres a little video I have of him too…enjoy hell.

    • Sorry, Republicans are responsible for keeping Roe vs Wade alive. I remember praying it would be overturned and it was not because of Republican justices.

      Wake up !

      • I am beginning to think you know the truth but you deny it…

        … this is why you use abortion as a distraction….

        I don’t really think you care as much about the unborn as you say you do….

        .. I think it shows a lack of faith.

    • Joe Catholic! How are you? Ive enjoyed trolling the troll these past few days. Nice points you brought up, I especially enjoyed your definition of pro-life, straight out of the Pro-Life 101 pamphlet with numbers and stats, etc.

      I disagree with many of your arguments, partiularly the ones where you gloss over sins commited by the “Idoloator of the Golden Calf and his Trump Casinos”. I would rather the people I support to obey all the commandments, including adultry, lying, idolotry, etc. Let us not forget President. Bush was also a pro-life president for 8 years. President Bush was a man of a much higher caliber then then our new Idolator President..how did that work out for you?

      You are aware that warfare, even if approved by the President is not only men in battlefields killing each other to defend ideals, something I pray you’ve never had to deal with. The destruction of the unborn is also perpetuated during war, bombings, starvation, avoidable illnesses, they all kill the innocent. In effect through your tacit support, you become the abortionists you loath so much. The main difference is that you claim some form of pro-life superiority on this where there is none.

      There is no such thing as a pro-life President, no matter what your Pro-Life 101 pamphlet, or the priests at your church instruct you to regurjitate. I prefer the saying from A.J. Muste, “There Is No Way to Peace, Peace Is the Way”. A more fitting statement in line with the Lord than what King Trump states ” I would bomb the s**t out of them”. Peace is something we will not have from the incoming administration, the individuals you have voted into power…You!

      I wont be spending any more time on you in this forum, if you wish to answer the last comment feel free and claim whatever victory you feel you need to. Have a Merry Christmas and…enjoy Hell.

  12. “No remorse here. I will buy a second term.”

    On his payroll, are you, or just a fool?

    Either way I am afraid I could not bring myself to snuggle up to that man’s anus like you and so many others seem intent on doing.

  13. “Pence is ‘hate filled’?

    I’ve never seen a more kind and humble man.”

    Kind and humble? This is a man who would invalidate my marriage, which has already been declared legal by the Supreme Court. He also advocates ripping LGBTQ teens away from their parents and shipping them off for “treatment” of a condition that has long since been decided by the experts is not a medical problem.

    If that is kindness and humility, you’re a psychotic.

    • Scott, I know you quoted this, “I’ve never seen a more kind and humble man.” No idea who you quoted but since you mention Pence, I am assuming that is of whom this was said.

      The thing that struck me is that this description fits Pope Francis I more than any one I can think of except maybe His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Archbishop Desmond Tutu

      Calling Pence kind and humble would be like calling Trump kind and humble.

      What is kind and humble to refuse refugees who have lost everything from finding a home in his state? That’s not kind and humble that is pure nastiness. That is turning his back on his Christian responsibility to show hospitality to strangers which the Bible commands of us in so many places.

      And don’t even get me started on his misogyny.

      • The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Chicago Sun, the L A Times… sources of actual news based on evidence, facts and research.

        All one has to is google.

  14. “Ben Carson at least is true to his faith. So what if he made a mistake about pyramids? He needs an archaeology degree to be the head of HUD?”

    You call that a mistake? I call it being dead from the neck up and I am here to tell you that I would never bring a child of mine to him no matter how many accolades he has.

  15. Dear John:

    Perhaps you’re writing somewhat ‘tongue in cheek,’ although the care with which you crafted this piece suggests otherwise. It does have a playful element, and a number of your points are good. But your title line troubled me. I realize that these sometimes intend to grab interest more than describe the article they lead.

    For the record, I am no Trump supporter. I critique not from the right but from the hard left.

    By how many votes must one ‘win’ to become President? Trump’s so-called ‘victory’ [he lost by some 2.5 million votes] answers to many things. One is an archaic institution known as the Electoral College. Another is a highly gerrymandered system which kicked in just in time to cash in on the most recent census. Elections go SO much better when politicians can pick voters. These points alone dispute your title line even without considering heavy voter repression tactics. So what does this ‘win’ mean? Recall that some 10 million who voted for Senator Obama in 2008 refused to vote in 2016.

    So what does this ‘election’ mean?

    The 2016 slug-fest ‘campaign’ was devoid of serious content and served the two, most hated candidates in US history. Both candidates plumbed our cultural depths. NOT ONE the many social contradictions or political crises that bestride the nation were even acknowledged, let alone addressed with intelligence. NEITHER candidate indicated that whoever was elected, the result would be MORE WAR, and MORE SOCIAL INEQUALITY, and MORE REPRESSION OF CIVIL RIGHTS. Rather, one candidate spoke of incarcerating his opponent, a characteristic of fascistic and bonapartite regimes. Meanwhile, the other used a Mccarthyite era attack insinuating with no verification her opponent’s disloyalty.

    So again, what does this ‘election’ mean?

    Was the media complicit in this election vaudeville act? Certainly! So was the unprecedented involvement of the intelligence community. So was the published statement of some 50 high-profile figures implying essentially that a Trump win could result in creating the rational for civil war. Moreover, our already confused, politically disoriented and exhausted electorate experienced this campaign and so-called ‘election’ as a political attack on the working class.

    What does this ‘election’ mean?

    As I see it, this ‘election’ repudiated the policies of President Obama’s administration as a supposed ‘ALTERNATIVE’ to the policies of his predecessor. Nothing sealed Senator Clinton’s ‘defeat’ like the revelation of the failure of Obama’s signature domestic policy when it was revealed a fortnight before the election that ‘Obamacare’ premiums are to rise by double digits in 2017. And beside a ‘split-vote’ are the scores of millions who did NOT vote. Whatever else is said, Trump’s ‘win’ does not imply broad support for Trump, or for his program of economic nationalism.

    So what does this ‘election’ mean?

    Much more can and should be said. Among these are two things which MUST be said.

    1] Trump never happens in a political vacuum. Trump stepped into a political vacuum created by the Democratic Party. If it wasn’t Trump, some other equally demagogic character would arise instead.

    2] The Democratic Party created that political vacuum by its utter failure to offer an alternative to the polices of George W. Bush. That is the primary reason for Trump’s so-called ‘election’ ‘victory.’

    Donald Trump is not going to make Babylon great again. Just as the Democratic ‘Hope and Change’ candidate failed, so also the Republican ‘Hope and Change’ candidate is destined to fail. He has NOTHING to offer. Already, this is being born out in his CEO/Wall Street picks for his coming administration. A kind of black-sacramental, these symbolic rites promise more economic nationalism, police-state enforced austerity at home, and ever-new wars abroad.

    What does this election mean?

    It means that more and more citizens are closing shop on the US political system. As it has abandoned its people, it stands to be deserted BY its people. The ‘stolen election’ line shifts the essential focus from the class struggle which must be ensured if ever there is to be a restoration of law, order, peace and justice to the land.

    Trump must not become the focus. That distracts us from two essential realities. 1] The ownership/investment/banking-finance class has no solution. 2] Working people everywhere are the solution.

    • “Perhaps you’re writing somewhat ‘tongue in cheek,’ although the care with which you crafted this piece suggests otherwise. It does have a playful element, and a number of your points are good. But your title line troubled me. I realize that these sometimes intend to grab interest more than describe the article they lead.”

      gdd…. have you never read How the Grinch Stole Christmas? Or watch it on TV? Go read that and see how your entire premise is false.

      • Dear Gloriamarie Amalfitano:

        Am I correct that you take this masterpiece of children’s literature to be a presentation of Marxian orthodoxy?

          • Dear Gloriamarie Amalfitano:

            You haven’t explained how my ‘entire premise is false’ [yours of Dec. 5, 7:38 pm]. You make no attempt to reply to my analysis [Dec 5:7:16], and offer none of your own.

            Dec 5, 10:45, you state that I ‘clearly do not understand what Karl Marx wrote.’ Marx wrote many things. Specifying nothing in particular, and offering neither example nor evidence, you dismiss out of hand a serious contribution and offer nothing of your own.

            Gloriamarie Amalfitano, I’m calling your hand.

            Mr. Pavlovitz’ forum isn’t the best venue for discussing Marx’ use of Hegelian dialectic and dialectical materialism; his blog doesn’t intend that, and therefore that conversation does not belong here.

            But unless you offer your own analysis and substantiate assertions with specific examples, we really have no basis for conversation.

            Before lecturing others on socialism, I suggest you familiarize yourself with this:

            http://tinyurl.com/jowxwk8

            Blessings!

            • “You haven’t explained how my ‘entire premise is false’ [yours of Dec. 5, 7:38 pm]. You make no attempt to reply to my analysis [Dec 5:7:16], and offer none of your own.”

              I pointed ho the false premise and you ignored it.

              Why would I waste my time replying to an “analysis” based on a false premise?

      • Dear Gloriamarie Amalfitano:

        Perhaps I should add that I don’t mean to be disparaging. But my criticisms of the electoral process and the impossibility of reforming our civic process implied by my writing might expect something more by way of response.

        Who addresses political attacks on the working class, or the relentless attacks on civil rights, or the destabilization of the international environment, or the tension in international alliances, or the relentless drive toward war, including WW III.
        Should we not be recognizing these policies for the political attacks that they are? Should we not be proclaiming now our refusal to fight future wars? Or, is ‘the Grinch that stole Christmas’ your final answer?

        I have said this before, but it bears repeating. We are on the road to world war or to social revolution. Which will be turns on whichever movement rises fastest.

        The ground is shaking beneath your feet.

        • Yeah I think we are heading for much upheaval globally.

          The election wasn’t about Obama but is about Trump.

          Trump has his finger on a solid base of support that he is communicating with via twitter.

          He doesn’t care about government institutions or the stability of America.

          This is turning into something you haven’t seen before.

          • Dear Anonymous:

            This ‘election’ was a political attack on the working class everywhere.

            President Obama extended Bush’ ‘Patriot Act’ attacks on civil liberties at home and initiated more discretionary wars abroad. President Obama also oversaw a massive transfer of wealth from the working class to the most privileged class.

            I believe the election WAS a response to President Obama’s regime, and its abject failure to deliver the promised ‘Hope and Change’ from President Bush’ heinous policies.

            Trump’s ‘base’ is an infinitesimally thin layer of un-elected [until now] ultra-wealthy multi-billionaires. This social class cannot rule alone. It MUST have a political apparatus to make its hegemony APPEAR to be legitimate. But it must also be in control of that process in order to assure that outcomes benefit the ultra-wealthy.

            The 2016 campaign slug-fest [what else may we call it?] represented a disagreement among the wealthy over HOW the imperial US should be ruled. It is a question not of substantive difference, but of the tactics of rule.

            The most dangerous political reality in America today is NOT President-Elect Donald Trump; it is that the interests and social necessities of the working class are represented nowhere on the spectrum of official politics.

            That must and will change. When that change comes, events will begin to move quickly. It will entail a mass desertion both of the Republican and Democratic Parties. Already they have discredited and disgraced themselves utterly.

            We are indeed heading for cataclysm. ‘The present crisis will not simply go away. There is no peaceful, let alone easy, way out of the economic and social impasse into which capitalism has led mankind.’

            It is time to get over Clinton, Trump and Nov. 8, and to unite the working class around a working class agenda. The struggle for economic justice, peace and civil rights is inseparable from the struggle for socialism. http://tinyurl.com/humqr67

            • I don’t think people are as well read as you. Most of them responded to the inflammatory things Trump said which appealed to their fears and biases.

              People are using Trump’s name to justify their behaviour.

              They are deceived by Trump and Trump is pumping up his base of support ( aka the victory tour) so that they will continue to follow him.

              He is not interested in ALL Americans or people in general but in solidifying a strong base if loyal supporters.

              • Dear Anonymous:

                We are all learners. Or need to be.

                I’ve no idea how the link I provided took you to John Shore’s site. You should have seen this:

                http://socialequality.com/about/program-of-the-socialist-equality-party/

                You wrote: ‘most of them responded to the inflammatory things Trump said which appealed to their fears and biases.’

                That is a small but significant first step toward political literacy. Recognition that no more than other ‘leaders’ has Mr. Trump any allegiance those he supposes he will govern? That is our second step.

                Endless retelling of Trump’s shallow character, base behavior and malignant narcissism precludes truly consequential issues from civic discourse. Lost in this ‘white noise’ is the reckless provocation that risks enflaming one of the world’s most volatile regions – the South China Sea – and war with Beijing.

                Congress overwhelmingly approved a $619 billion Pentagon budget. Include military atomic expenditures, veterans’ benefits and other costs and that total rises at least to $905 billion. This is more than 21 percent of the federal budget.

                This is a war budget. The US ruling class means to get us to what will be a new, world war. The danger this poses cannot be overestimated. We should be announcing vociferously that we will neither fight nor support such a war. Nor will we recognize or defend any administration that determines to take us to a third world war.

            • i think that many countries in the world (that still have a scintilla of freedom) are not wanting to entirely lose their own identity. They think that Globalization has reached its beneficial limit… and now is the time to moderate Globalization, rather than accentuate it.

              Ironically, Trump is acting in a true Globalist Fashion, (that is, following global trend) . He is riding the Wave that all the Globalists (unintentionally) set in motion.

              The World sees Trump as a harbinger of Freedom, Economic Growth, National Security –and they like what they see.

              Hello again, Taiwan.

  16. Absolutely hugely brilliant. Seussian! Bigly bigly thanks! Sharing! The bestly rewrite I’ve read in justly- well ever! Lovely lovely love! My complimentaries to the the dr. and the pastor. Tis the season to laugh hilariously at (thank you alec baldwin) Trumpelthinskin! He’s so not gonna like this. Hardy hardy har har har! OMG!!! There is one. Thank you John Pavlovitz! You use the best words. Just the best.

  17. You must be very proud of your little poem…nothing like a little mean spirited fun to make your day better….I imagine if the same poem were written about Obama or Hillary you would not think twice about screaming and throwing a tantrum about how hateful and mean it was. If every word you read was calling you names and demeaning you for your vote choice…how would you feel? You blindly assume the worst about all Trump supporters…how very narrow minded of you and you followers. Not a very Christian thing from a CHRISTIAN PREACHER!!!! The anger on this blog is disgusting, the insults, name calling and demeaning of anyone who does not think as you do is awful. Demeaning the Bible and anyone who believes in it??? Disgusting…..I used to love reading your posts..they were funny and insightful, they made me laugh and gave me hope about what a good person you were. Now all is see is hate and bigotry, and loathing for anyone who does not agree with you. Funny how you can sit behind your computer and blast those who don’t agree with you, but GOD FORBID someone does it back to you…did you ever stop to think that maybe a vote for Trump was not a vote for bigotry and rasicism, and anti gay marriage??? No you sure didn’t, you like your sainted candiddate Hillary threw everyone into a basket of deplorables and that was that. There are those of us who did not fair so well under Obama and did not want more of the same…so we voted against more of the same. If you are going to throw everyone who dissagrees with you to the wolves…why not come and join us?? Because you are being just as nasty and biggoted as those you speak against..congratulations you have become a deplorable!

  18. No we should not be complacent…nor do we have to sit back and be constantly berateted and belittled for our choices. I guess I just don’t understand how when those who spoke out against Obama and Hillary were so awful…but now it is ok to speak out so hatefully against Trump?? Where does that make any sense? If you do not agree with the president no matter who he is obviously you are not going to have great things to say about him or her…but the double standard of condeming all Trump supporters..while putting all Obama and Hillary supporters on a pedestal is just wrong. No matter what you told anyone they could only give you one reason for not liking Obama and that was because he was black…are you kidding me….maybe there were some like that, but I was not one of them and I did not know anyone who did not like him as President because of his skin color….those of us who did not like him never made it about skin color…it was about policies and Obamacare, and a host of other things that we dissagreed with. Same for why we did not like Hillary…mmore of the same. To my way of thinking if you are not happy with a current situation you vote to change it…that is what I did. But, we could all sit here and argue all day long, and no matter what we will all never agree…seems like there are those on here who cannot even manage to be civil when one does not agree with them. I DON’T agree with those that voted Obama in, I DON’T agree with those who voted for Hillary…but GUESS WHAT???? It is not place place to agree or disagree with them…it IS MY PLACE to respect them and their OWN PERSONAL DECESION! And to act with humanity and not degrade them or make them feel like a piece of crap for what is their given right!!!! So while you all continue to yell and name call and disrepect the President and those that voted for him..enjoy doing the same thing you have accussed others of doing for 8 years…hope that works well for you….but hey I am just a name calling troll:):) None of you here could be accused of that now could you??? Thank you Joe Catholic…!!!! I was not too worried about her, she seems to attack everybody that does not agree with her:)

    • We are all far from the humility and focus on the Gospel that the apostles had. But, they too argued about things and Paul even disowned a few. Do you think those that Paul rejected, who were Christians, were lost to Jesus? I doubt that. Paul wasn’t perfect. We can disagree and even criticized people. We can choose to avoid people who offend us or challenge us. We can even dislike and criticize the President. But, not matter what we think or believe, or say, it is how we treat people that gains their respect. I don’t know if you are upset because you like Trump or like the symbol of the Presidency or if you just have issues with people not getting along. I don’t respect Trump because of how he treats people and what he did along the campaign trail. What I witnessed through live tv …not media pundits….but video footage of Trump…his behaviour and words out of his own mouth cannot be disputed. My mind will not forget it… nor will I change how I view Trump …. furthermore being the President does not change how I view Trump….and I won’t stop voicing my disapproval of Trump as President no matter how much it bothers someone to hear it. Trump supporters will have to get used to that. Obama got elected easily because he gained the respect of a diverse group of people because of how he treated others. Hillary fell short because she has more flaws than Obama and there are a lot of false stories out there about her.

      But, Trump won through deception and I can’t respect that.

      • I do undertsand your position Anon, and those who do not like Trump and did not vote for him. Look I did not like Obama, and I did not vote for him…did I expect everyone to agree with me??? No…what upsets me is the tone that this blog host and some of his followers have taken…all Trump supporters are evil, they are all rasicts, bigots, homophobes, kkk supporters, and just in general nasty human beings. Be against Trump that is your right…and yes there are Trump supporters out there that are taking things too far and being violent and nasty…but to throw that on all Trump supporters would be like saying that all the people who support Black Lives Matter are violent…yes there are some of them that riot, and incite violence…but I do not assume ALL of them are like that. When did it become ok to judge someone due to their personal beliefs?? Be that for Religion, Politics, or Sexual Oriantation?? Respecting the President is an entirely personal choice, I had no respect for Obama…and I have read some of the awful things written on this very blog by the host and some of his followers about how awful those of us who do not respect Obama or Hillary are, why is it ok for them to do the same when it comes to Trump..but to villify others that did the same to their choice of president. I do not have an issue with those that do not like Trump..I have an issue with the double standard…and I never treated anyone so horribly for their choice on who they voted for…the hate and anger is just too much. Disrescpect the President…voice your disaproval…I know that I did when it came to Obama and Hillary, but to disrespect someone for their own personal choice is not helpful, or productive. I guess I have a different view of how people should treat each other, I admit my replies to the original post were angry…but there is only so long you can be called a racist homophobic bigot that wants to surpress everyones rights before you get a tad annoyed….yes there were alot of false stories on all candidates that ran…in any presidential race that is par for the course..sad too because the media gets gleeful joy in panicking people…they edit clips to make them look there worst…there were times I would watch a clip of Hillary saying something so awful….and I would go do my research because I know how the media operates and that they cut out what they need to, to get the ratings and make everyones jaw drop. I did my research on both candidates as I do every 4 years when I cast my vote for President…and Like you there were things about Hillary I could not get past…so I get that. I thank you for responding respectfully, I do appreciate that, there are so many here that do not:) I understand the fear of those agianst Trump, because I had the same fears when Obama got in…8 years later I am still here…were all 8 great for me?? No, but do I blame and hate and name call those who voted him in?? No….I guess though that at the end of the day there are those that will live their lives blaming those for their personal choices….I choose not to be one of those people. I see so much division, hate and anger…it is just sad. Not too mention it fuels more hate anger and division..so who at the end of the day are all these hateful accusing blog posts helping?

        • You had no reason at all to fear Obama he never acted off the rails when he campaigned or went on twitter rants.

          You admitted yourself that you are still here after 8 years of Obama and nothing bad happened so time has proven your fears to be false. Time has proven the Obama detractors to be false. Time has proven that Obama was an imperfect yet decent President.

          But while your fears were unfounded and time proved them to be unfounded because there was no great big secret evil person lurking behind Obama, my fear about Trump is a real genuine fear.

          Trump said and did loathsome and threatening things during his campaign. For everyone to see.

          There is no question about it. Everyone agrees on this. Don’t even try to argue that. Some know try to excuse it by saying it was campaign tactics.

          Voters admitted they saw it too yet voted for Trump anyway.

          You voted for Trump knowing the disgusting things he says and does. His mocking, his bragging, his threatening, his cajoling, his manipulating. This is not a normal person. He comes off as dangerous to me.

          This is not the same at all …it is not comparable at all.

          Trump is threatening, manipulative and crass. Obama is respectful, admirable and a good communicator.

          Sorry, that is not a happy election for everyone but the way Trump ran his campaign caused this and he deserves the backlash.

          If you take it personally because you voted for Trump you take personally. But it won’t stop people from speaking the truth.

          • My fears were real to me, just as your fears about Trump are real to you…how nice and tidy to tell someone that their fears are unfounded…the last 4 years of Obamas presidency have been very hard on me and my family and lots of people I knw and care about…you can tell me fears were unjustified…as I could say the same to you about your fears about Trump…would we agree with each other??? NOPE! You voted for who you wnated in office, I am truly sorry that you r candidate did not win and you are scared…I voted for who I wanted in office ….and yes I am happy about it…because I do not agree that the past 8 years have been a blissful occasion…I have seen more hate and division over the past 8 years and I find it disgusting. No I do not take it personally that you all do not agree with those that voted for Trump, I could care less what others think of who I voted for. But your double standard of throwing out the same crap you have so LOUDLY spoken out against is truly sad! I am saddened to see a Christian Blog host and his followers behaving in such a hateful manner….I did not realize liberals were so intolerant…I thought they were all peace and love and hope and unity…there is no unity here just hate and division. If someone does not agree with you they are a troll, bigot rascist, homophobe and worse…must be nice to be so perfect that you have the right to accuse others of such awful behaviour…why not try to give people the benefit of the doubt??? And while you may be right about the majority of the followers here and the blog host…not everyone agrees with you or Trump would not have won the presidency…and hey guess what I find Hillary to be a disgusting human being like you do Trump…and yet you voted for her…late term abortion….mishandled national security then lied about it, stuck up for her rapist cheating husband, and bashed the women who were assulted by him, funds her foundation from terrorist countries, and countries that behead women and gays…yes she would have been you alls saviour had she gotten in. The crap works both ways, and again at the end of the day we will not agree with each other…because you think Hillary and Obama are saints and refuse to see any of there faults or wrong doing…and yes you are right I voted for Trump knowing his faults and wrong doing but, at least I will admit my candidate has faults. I chose to vote AGAINST more of the same I did not want a continuation of the past 8 years …but you all are doing a good job of continuing the hate and division that has been growing worse over the past 8 years…keep it up!!! Alot of the pot calling the kettle black going on here…you don’t have to agree with someone to be respectful…maybe just maybe you all will get that some day.

            • It is not equal

              Trump is a bully and everyone knows it, even you, but you want a bully, a strong man to push people around and you don’t care if he hurts people.

              Well I won’t accept that.

              • nope just someone who will actually be a President, and get things done…and I would care if people were hurt….however no one that put Obama in office cared about those he hurt for 8 years…so again it works both ways. Because if you are a democrat and have a Democrat in office you are plaeased and think everything is fine…same goes for us Republicans…everyone votes on what Policies they believe in…if we voted for character and honesty neither Trump nor Hillary would have gotten a single vote…for 8 years I have felt the strain of the Obama policies…so I voted against that…and that is and all there was to my vote. You voted to keep policies the same …no difference…except you can’t even have the grace to admit that your candidate is flawed….you don’t have to accept anything…no one is asking you to do that….oh but wait….for 8 years you all have told the rest of us that did not like or agree with Obama to get over it, and deal because he is soooo wonderful. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and you all don’t like it one bit…you want to have the constitution re-written, and badger the Electoral voters to give you your way….yes lets let 3 whole states dictate who our President will be …that seems fair and Just, the rest of us who do not live in those states can take it easy and stay home on voting day because our votes will not even count…let’s overturn our constitution because you all did not get your way…I dare say that if Hillary had won you would not have given a crap about the electoral collage…not to mention even IF you all could get enough Electoral voters to vote against Trump, you would still end up with a Republican President…and since according to you all…ALL Republicans and the root of all that is evil, how will that help you??? None, but I can imagine you all would still complain and throw tantrums, because you still would not have gotten your way. Republicans do not agree with democrat Policies and vise versa…it is sad that republicans and democrats cannot work together and agree that both parties have some good ideas…and it is even sadder that people who speak out against violence and hate and bigotry…are acting so like what they are against. Saying that all Republicans are evil, and not Christians…is hate and bigotry pure and simple…hate and bigotry work both ways…it is not a one way road that you all get to have the right of way on when you have not gotten your way. Disagree with Trump, and republicans…and their policies…but stop being so nasty and hateful. Not sure if you all are speaking out against what some NOT ALL people delt out to you for 8 years over their dislike over Obama…and you are now giving them a taste of their own medicine or what, but NOT ALL of us who did not like or accept Obama and his policies treated others who voted for him, or spoke about Obama with the level of disrespect that you all have lowered youselves to. Stop lumping everyone into a neat little basket to justify your nasty behaviour. Stop judging and assuming the worst of everyone…stop hating those that do not agree with you…I cannot imagine living my life so angry and hateful. Not to mention, that at the end of the day…the more tantrums and hate and anger that you spit out, will eventually get tuned out, the tantrums and hate get old after time, and people stop listening. You want people to listen and be understanding??? Try listening and being understanding yourselves…stop assuming that everyone who does not agree with you is evil, and against you. Act like civil adults and that is how you will be treated, do unto others! And stop acting like the man you so violently dispise…and being a bunch of bullies. The blog host and his followers want people to come out and explain their vote, so that he and his followers will NOT think that they are bigots, and racists….why would we bother when you will still no matter what we say think that of us anyway? We do not understand your vote for Hillary and the continuation of failed policies, but there is no give us an explination of your vote so we will not think badly of you…not going to go into Hillary’s mass of scandles because you will choose to ignore them and not believe them anyway..but I am sure as I am sitting here if the same question was asked of you all you would laugh and say that people against Hillary are stupid and uninformed…and they must hate women and all human beings. Yep, at the end of the day BOTH candidates were carrying around such a heavy load of crap that no matter who you voted for you were not voting by any means for a saint…to say whose offenses are worse than the others would be a complete waste of time because no one would ever agree …those that voted Trump believe Hillary’s offenses were worse and vise versa…I know plenty of democrats and people who did not vote for or approve of Trump, I also know some that did. I am happy to say that the ones that I know personally that voted for Hillary and were against Trump, have not acted as any of you here have acted, they have not condemmed all Trump supporters, and acted so hatefully…if you don’t condone hate and bullying why are you acting like you do?? Or is the hate and bullying only acceptable in your eyes when you think you are right, and it is not against you and your beliefs?

                • I won’t stand by while a bully deceives people.

                  I know the difference between bullies and those who are not bullies and I will stand up to those who push people around.

  19. So painfully true! RIP USA. The zombies will govern America and The Orange will be the new Red! The pantsuit Nation will only be the great dream that did not come true. But Who could have foretold what was to come? Certainly not the media that created this fool. So corrupted and evil and so ignorant too. Farewell democracy!

  20. Great post John.

    I was just thinking of another depressing aspect of Trump’s behavior in this election: in three years, we will go through it all again.

    • I have to disagree with you, Friendly guy, I don’t think we will because Trump’s abysmal ignorance of the Constitution and the Constitutional process, as well as the basic laws of this country, will cause his to commit high crimes and misdemeanors and even a Republican Congress will be forced to impeach him. I think they will be eager to do that because Trump is a loose cannon and Pence is someone who plays by their book of hate.

  21. All you people who want to complain about Obama- look at yourselves in the damn mirror- because it is your repub assh*les who did everything they could to get in his way. If by chance- you do not care about helping your fellow man- YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIAN- you never have been and you never will be- and if there actually are “pearly gates” there’s no way in hell you’ll be getting through them. And I’m GAY. That’s right- I’ve never screwed a female. But I am now- finally- more equal than I ever have been- and I certainly don’t owe any republicans nor very many christians for that advancement in HUMAN DECENCY. So- it may have taken him a bit longer than we wanted it to- But Obama did good.

    • It’s a great people certain people cannot distinguish between what is a civil rights issue and their own personal prejudices.

      We have separation of church and state in this country for good and important reasons. It’s a pity some people don’t grasp those reasons.

  22. You are so sure of yourself and I just don’t understand how you call yourself a pastor but you continue to spew words that are not all true. Every celebrity pastor did not promote Trump. To me you’re no different from Trump. Just as he attacked groups so are you-I call that hypocrisy. You are using your platform as a pastor to promote your democratic party. I was not a Trump follower but I have to say you upset me more than him. He’s acting as I expect b/c I never believed he was a Christian you on the other hand should know better.
    You are self righteous which is exactly who Jesus rebuked but it was the tax collectors and drunks that Jesus went to their house. In Jesus day were horrible leaders but he didn’t spend his time attacking them-he was to busy touching lives. I challenge you to lay your laptop down or whatever you use, ask God to take away your hate and get out and touch people’s lives for the Kingdom.

    • ee, this is the kind of calling John P names that makes me suspect you are a troll. I don’t mind if you disagree with him, it is the rudeness in the way you express yourself that is distressing.

      And, btw, just because he used the phrase “celebrity pastors” does not mean that he is talking about all of them, he is only talking about those to whom his words apply.

      John P is a prophet exercising his gift of exhortation, holding a mirror in front of each of us. If a person doesn’t like what she or he sees in the mirror, don’t kill the messenger but offer thanks to God that a truth has been revealed about yourself so that you can repent and do elsewise in the future.

    • Russel Moore and Al Mohler did not support Trump (as well as many other conservative pastors). They are well respected leaders of the Gospel coalition.

    • cathy m. — thanks for your input. John P welcomes all who have differing opinions. In fact, its very important to push & pull here. Otherwise there would be no blog.

      And if John P is the measure by which we all go by, then spirited name calling, bias, a certain level of baseness, prejudices & painting with broad brushes is de riguer.

  23. I thank Jesus every day for you! You have voiced so precisely what I have been feeling–thank you. You have given me a way to FOCUS on how to fight this thing called Trump and for that I am so very grateful. Your blog on needing a little Christmas put that song in my heart when no song could find purchase and that will be my prayer.

    Here is my weeping heart:

    Ode to My Country Tis of Thee

    My country was of thee
    now a kleptocracy
    for thee I weep.

    Racism, bigotry
    hatred, misogyny,
    white supremi’sts in the White House now
    God help us all

    keep up the good work –it makes a difference

    • Dear much afraid til I reach the high place,

      Let us work together to fight the evil that is the Republican Party, their national party platform, and a Trump administration full of people who have embraced evil to such an extent that Bannon admits to admiring Satan because “that’s power.”

      I have a group on FB to which everyone is invited who wishes to work together with me to oppose evil. It’s called Gloriamarie’s Progressive Stuff. Please search for it.

      Others from this blog have joined.

    • There’s a problem with that bumper sticker…it pictures Joseph and Mary with the infant Jesus. They never left their own country. They traveled to a distant city, but they were not outside their own country. They were visitors, travelers, new to the area perhaps but not immigrants. They were not refugees either. They were ordered to take part in an official census by their own government authority. So just how can someone who is traveling within their own country, by an edict of their own government be called an immigrant or refugee? Because the liberal mind doesn’t see very well that’s why!

        • Gloriamarie, you are correct. They fled possible death for the young Jesus by Herod’s hand. Still, not much has been said of their time in Egypt. They did return to their homeland after the threat was gone. Many of your peers have said they would flee the country too if a certain person would come to power. So far I haven’t heard of anyone who had flown the coop to avoid prosecution. Maybe that’s because they know that what they are saying and what will happen won’t? Don’t you think it’s odd that so many would kill to live in my country when some talk of leaving, but don’t? Seems some just want to complain but when it comes down to it, they swallow it up and go on because they know that they don’t have it so bad when it really comes down to it.

          Why shouldn’t we let in everyone some want to let in? Watch the video, he makes and very good point.

          [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OwV-zfbHoY&w=854&h=480%5D

          • Oh, some of the apocryphal gospels have a lot to say about their lives in Egypt as immigrants.

            No, I’ve already seen this video. It is unchristian. Cruel, hate-filled, and selfish.

            The Bible is full of passages about the hospitality Christians are to show to strangers. Love always trumps hate.

  24. Tell me, Trump supporters, why did you vote for the harassment of your fellow citizens? Please don’t be disingenuous and tell me you didn’t know that would happen because it was already happening during the campaign.

    In Trump’s America, ‘pizzagate’ could be the new normal

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-trumps-america-pizzagate-could-be-the-new-normal/2016/12/05/b6e26298-bb3b-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?wpisrc=nl_draw2&wpmm=1

  25. Hi,

    I just became part of the corporate accountability action league to resist the Trump administration’s pro-corporate, racist, sexist, and xenophobic agenda. I know we’re all looking for ways to act, be part of something bigger, and make a real difference.

    So I wanted to invite you to join me in pledging to block the expansion of corporate power with people power.

    If this election has us shown anything, it’s that we need to make deep and lasting changes to our system. We need to transform the current power structures and address economic injustice, racism, and sexism together. And I’m confident Corporate Accountability International is the organization to lead in this work. It has a proven track record of taking on corporate power, and a 40-year history of mobilizing grassroots actions to create lasting changes.

    As part of the corporate accountability action league, we can help shape and drive tactics to keep corporations in check. That looks like a lot of things: attending or leading trainings, calling elected officials and corporate executives, joining rallies or demonstrations, hosting house parties, hosting dinner conversations, writing letters to the editor, donating money, and more.

    I’m not going to back down in the face of Trump’s administration. I hope you won’t, either!

    You can join the corporate accountability action league here:
    http://act.stopcorporateabuse.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=20727

  26. President Obama: Step up for climate justice — before the climate denier takes office!
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    Donald Trump plans to do everything he can to reverse progress on climate change. His policies threaten disaster for people and the planet.

    But there’s one thing President Obama can do before he leaves office that Trump cannot undo.

    The U.S. has promised to pay $3 billion into a fund that will help people in Global South countries dealing with climate change disasters right now. If Obama releases the remaining $2.5 billion of that money before he leaves office, it will have a huge impact on the lives of billions of people around the world — and Trump won’t be able to touch it.

    Donald Trump has made clear he plans to end funding for climate progress. But Obama can release the money the U.S. has pledged right now — and send a strong message to the rest of the world that progress on climate change must continue, no matter who is in the White House.

    Add your name to tell Obama: Money is a critical component of securing global climate justice. Make good on your pledge before the climate denier takes the White House!

    Dear President Obama,

    As president, your leadership on climate change has inspired hope for a safer future for our planet. Donald Trump’s statements on climate change indicate that he has every intention of reversing all you have worked hard to achieve, threatening your climate legacy. His promise to pull the U.S. out of the Paris Agreement would be disastrous for global climate policy, and his presumed appointee to head the Environmental Protection Agency will sound a death knell for sane environmental policy at home.

    The world cannot afford Donald Trump’s steps backward on climate. Right now, people around the world are mobilizing to counter Trump’s anticipated actions. You can help us protect your climate legacy by fulfilling your pledge to contribute $3 billion toward the international Green Climate Fund, funding climate justice measures all over the Global South.

    Money is key to ensuring climate justice: The U.S. and other wealthy countries have pledged billions of dollars to support Global South countries’ progress on climate. This money will make a tangible difference in the lives of people who are facing the effects of climate change right now. Globally, just as in the U.S., communities of color and low-income communities are the ones bearing the brunt of climate change’s effects, and have done the least to create the problem. Fulfilling the United States’ commitment to the Green Climate Fund will help advance climate justice globally. It will fund ways for small island nations to protect themselves against the rising oceans and catastrophic storms, finance renewable energy infrastructure to catalyze sustainable development, and more. And it’s one huge step forward on climate change that Donald Trump cannot undo.

    What’s more, without the money pledged to the Green Climate Fund, the historic Paris Agreement is in danger of falling apart. Fulfilling your pledge will have a huge impact in propelling forward climate progress internationally — whether or not Trump pulls out of climate talks — and spur other countries around the world to fulfill their pledges.

    I urge you to stand up for climate justice and cement your legacy by completing the remaining $2.5 billion of our $3 billion contribution to the Green Climate Fund.

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    http://petitions.signforgood.com/ObamaClimateFund?code=RA

  27. A Primer on Living in a Time of Fear

    How to mindfully attend to and befriend fear so you can shift away from your “fight or flight” response to fear and maybe even let it go.
    By Christopher Willard | November 30, 2016

    Lately many of us have been living in fear of the future, which translates to a lot of anxiety.

    Fear is a powerful physiological response, orchestrated by a complex threat detection system in our brain, the amygdala being one player in that system. Our brain’s primary responses to fear are short-term: fight, flight, freeze and forget-it (okay maybe not always “forget-it.”) For some people a range of these emotions washed over them on election night, for many others they’ve been feeling these emotions acutely ever since.

    But here’s the thing, when the threat detection system in our brain is activated, and fear takes over, other areas of the brain aren’t as active, making it difficult for us to do our best thinking. Things like being able to see the big picture clearly, discern danger from reality, see nuance and complexity, plan long-term solutions, and problem solve become challenging.

    While we’re all wired to think and feel, to fear and fret, we’re also wired to “attend” and “befriend,” as psychologists would say. We might also call these natural responses “mindfulness” and “compassion.”

    So how do we ease out of fear mode? This is what mindfulness was made for. Fear and anxiety often go hand-in-hand with dwelling on the past or worrying about the future. And the very nature of mindfulness is to notice when our thoughts drift ahead of or behind the present moment.

    Try this mindfulness practice right now:

    Take a moment and think about what this information means for you. Where are your thoughts now? Where have they been? How do your thoughts feel in your body? The good news is that we can observe our reactions without letting them consume us. While we’re all wired to think and feel, to fear and fret, we’re also wired to “attend” and “befriend,” as psychologists would say. We might also call these natural responses “mindfulness” and “compassion.” These responses are not just feel-good sentiments, but natural to all of us, and extremely useful in times of uncertainty and fear.

    How to Attend To and Befriend Fear

    I can still recall where I was when I heard about the Boston Marathon bombing. I was 6000 away in Helsinki, Finland, leading a mindfulness workshop when I un-mindfully checked my phone during the lunch break to a torrent of messages asking if I was okay. Checking the news, I saw the bloody photos of fearful faces on the streets I’d walked down my whole life, at an event I grew up watching a few blocks from my house. Fear struck, I acknowledged it, and my response turned to “attend,” thinking through how I could be most helpful from so far away, and “befriend,” caring for myself and reaching out to my friends and family back home to offer my love and support. Had I been at the finish line, fight or flight, or freeze and hide would have absolutely been the most useful responses, and did save the lives of many people I knew back home.

    So how can we calm the fear response and the trouble it can cause, and shift into attend and befriend? Remember that brains, hearts and minds under perceived emotional or physical threat will literally never open during those fight, flight, freeze or forget it moments. We don’t learn, we don’t think, we don’t love unless we feel safe and open enough to attend and befriend.

    Here’s a practice for attending to and befriending fear:

    Take a breath and feel what’s happening in your body.
    Notice where your thoughts are. Are they in the past? In the future?

    Can you observe any fight, flight, freeze or forget it responses?

    Try one (or a few) of the following to befriend and attend to your fears:
    1) Meditate. Try a compassion and self-compassion meditation practice. This can ease those unhelpful fight (anger) and flight (anxiety) feelings.
    2) Care for your body. Exercise, stretch, eat healthy, and get a good night’s sleep to build a strong foundation against fear within our bodies.
    3) Be with friends. Reaching out to others, spending time with them, and, if you feel brave, telling them you care about them, can quiet down the fear response and even the pain circuits in our nervous system.
    4) Carry yourself. When we sit and stand up tall, we can increase our feelings of power. Some research even suggests we can increase our happiness and uplift our mood when we embody power.

    My challenge to myself as I emerge from fear, is to consider the ways I can open heart and mind to those I disagree with, and feel safe and even listened to, whether I agree or not. In fact, research recently found that ten minutes of being listened to allowed people to feel safe and comfortable enough to change their minds. Real listening can only happen when we’re not fearful. So, please keep this in mind as we move through the holidays and into a new, and uncertain, year. Change starts from within, and fear will always stand in the way.

    Christopher Willard, PsyD, is a psychologist and educational consultant based in Boston, specializing in mindfulness for adolescents and young adults. He has been practicing meditation for over fifteen years. He currently serves on the board of directors at the Institute for Meditation and Psychotherapy and the Mindfulness in Education Network. Dr. Willard has published five books on contemplative practice, including Growing Up Mindful. He teaches at Harvard Medical School.

    http://www.mindful.org/primer-living-time-fear/?utm_source=Mindful+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9e6324f884-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_06&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6d03e8c02c-9e6324f884-22272597&mc_cid=9e6324f884&mc_eid=8099399051

    • This one made me cry. I saw it on Facebook yesterday. if nothing else really tells us who these people are — this does.

      • Barbara Pfeiffer, I feel exactly the same way. I have no idea if Paul Ryan considers himself a Christian or not, but if he does he has turned his back on loving his neighbor, feeding the hungry and providing for those in need.

      • Ryan is a confessed disciple of atheist Russian philosopher Ayn Rand. He is the kind of guy who, if he were a Boy Scout, would take old ladies by the arm, lead them to the middle of the road, and leave them there to be run over by cars and trucks.

    • No, Joe you are falsifying the facts in order to distract people from the truth. Why do you do that?

      The truth is Paul Ryan said in a speech quote, “..What they’re offering people is a full stomach and an empty soul…”

      stop trying to fool people Joe, people are passionate about the truth and will not quit or forget.

      We will not be quiet, we will not stop.

      • As well the brown paper bag story is not based a real experience but taken form a story. Paul Ryan had to backtrack on it.

        “Kevin Seifert, a spokesman for Ryan, said: “It’s unfortunate to learn that while testifying before the House Budget Committee, Secretary Anderson misspoke, but we appreciate her taking the time to share her insights.” After our inquiry, Ryan posted a notice on Facebook saying, “I regret failing to verify the original source of the story.”

        It goes to show you how easily we are fooled and powerful people who have a platform speak about things as personal experience when they are not in order to manipulate the electorate.

      • ….and the brown paper bag story had nothing to do with Obamacare at all but a story written about something else. It was not in context with the subject of Paul Ryan’s speech, which is why he had to apologize.

      • … wait a sec, it is relevant, the kicker is that the original author of the story is a proponent of Federal programs to help disadvantaged people,

        “But what about Ryan? Should he get a pass because he heard this from a witness before Congress? It really depends on the circumstances. In this case, he referenced the story in a major speech. The burden always falls on the speaker, and we believe politicians need to check the facts in any prepared remarks.

        In this case, apparently, the story was too good to check. We appreciate he is regretful now. But a simple inquiry would have determined that the person telling the story actually is an advocate for the federal programs that Ryan now claims leave people with “a full stomach and an empty soul.” So he also earns Four Pinocchios.”

        that’s a lot of Pinocchios!

  28. Petition to all state legislatures:
    Whoever wins the most votes should be elected president. Please join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, and end the Electoral College’s power to overturn the popular vote.
    We believe every vote should count equally, regardless of where you live in the United States – EVERY vote in EVERY state should matter in EVERY presidential election. But thanks to the Electoral College, even though Clinton won over 2 million (and counting!) more popular votes, the Electoral College allowed Trump to win.
    This is the fifth time in American history, and second time in five elections, where a presidential candidate who won the most popular votes lost the election. As a result, presidential candidates have no reason to pay attention to voters in states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind. Instead, candidates focus on “swing states” while largely ignoring the rest of the country.
    The winner-take-all Electoral College system that led to this anti-democratic outcome must be changed, so that voters in all 50 states have a say in choosing our president.
    If we can get enough states to sign onto the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, our presidents will be elected by the national popular vote — it would fix the problems of the Electoral College without needing to amend the Constitution or go through Congress.
    The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact would require states to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the national popular vote.
    And we already have momentum to getting this enacted nationally: Right now, ten states and the District of Columbia have joined the compact, possessing 165 electoral votes altogether.
    It wouldn’t take effect until enough states joined in, but we’re closer to that than you might think — ten states and the District of Columbia have already signed on, totaling 165 electoral votes of the needed 270.
    Activating the National Popular Vote Compact would reshape our democracy for the better. Not only would it ensure that the person who actually got more votes win the presidency, but it would also force candidates to spend time engaging with voters in all 50 states, instead of just a handful swing states.
    Please add your name today and urge lawmakers in your state to join the National Popular Vote compact.

    https://fixtheelectoralcollege.net/?source=dailykos&link_id=11&can_id=aac248234d067d672dba041bb62601e0&email_referrer=turns-out-that-breitbart-article-the-house-science-committee-tweeted-out-is-a-con-job&email_subject=turns-out-that-breitbart-article-the-house-science-committee-tweeted-out-is-a-con-job

    • Not too mention…the votes are not even finished counting once someone hits 270…the fact that it is presumed she won the popular vote is just wishful thinking. And looking at the map…it almost all red…so without California and New York Hillary would have barely gotten any votes…but I guess Joe you and I are the only ones who don’t want the electoral collage abolished:) Funny they all loved the electoral collage when it worked in Obama’s favor!

      • “Obama got 51.1 percent of the popular vote to Mitt Romney’s 47.2 percent, a four point margin. (Let’s all pause for a moment and savor the fact that history will show that Romney won … 47 percent.) …

        That makes Obama the first president to crack 51 percent two elections in a row since Dwight Eisenhower more than a half-century ago. (Sorry, conservatives, Ronald Reagan only reached 50.75 percent in 1980.)”

  29. Vot a mishegoss…You know, life would be much pleasanter for everyone on this planet if “some people” did not INSIST on taking EVERYTHING so GODDAMN SERIOUSLY.

    I don’t know about anyone else but I, for one, am SICK unto DEATH of all the HEADBANGING and BREASTBEATING I see on this forum.

    For God’s sake, people, LIGHTEN UP.

  30. “Ryan is a confessed disciple of atheist Russian philosopher Ayn Rand…”

    When I was in high school, it was the fashion to read Rand. What we thought she had to offer I have no clue looking back, but, unwilling to commit myself to what I considered over-wordy novels, started with the film adaptation of THE FOUNTAINHEAD starring Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal.

    The film wasn’t much outside of the love scenes. Cooper and Neal clicked with an electricity that nearly set the screen on fire. Unfortunately when they were not locked in an embrace there was precious little to recommend what was otherwise a self-important, bloated, and tedious film that asked the audience to empathize with an architect who refused to deviate from “his vision” no matter what the customer wanted (admirable on some level, I suppose, but not exactly a good way to put bread on the table. Or even to purchase the table. Or the house to put it in.)

    As if that were not enough, Rand insisted upon ending her novel with a long, drawn out courtroom scene in which Howard Roark (Cooper) set down his philosophy word for word.

    Director King Vidor begged Rand to allow him to clean up Roark’s final monologue; it came late in an already long film, by which time the audience was already more than half lost, and to make matters worse, Cooper did not understand what Rand had written.

    Rand would have none of it. So out it went, bloated, boring, and far too self-important for its own good. And it proceeded to bomb, despite the considerable contributions of Neal, and Cooper when he was in her arms.

    Footnote: Ayn Rand claimed she did not believe in “handouts” from the government, but this did not stop her from collecting her Social Security Benefits.

  31. Joe Catholic:

    “So you see Social Security as a ‘handout.’ Like welfare for the elderly?”

    You are SO busted, Mister Holier-Than-Thou-Who-Knows-Everything.

    Do *I* see Social Security as a “handout?” NO, I do NOT. but RAND DID!!!!!!!!!

    And she spoke out viciously about those who collected it. That did NOT stop her sticking her hand in the till when she reached retirement age.

    Next time you decide to go after someone on this thread, do your homework first. I am sick of the way you walk past everyone on here with your nose in the air as if assailed by a noisome smell.

    • Scott Amundsen, While I think it is a complete waste of time to engage a certain person, the words you write above convince me that a certain person must only be about ten years old because anyone who has ever been old enough to be employed knows that Social Security is deducted from a paycheck. It’s the FICA deduction and, thus, our Social Security is something we ***earn.*** But apparently he is simply much too young to know this.

      The other thing that is a Republican con about Social Security is that there is a cap on the FICA deductions which is currently, I believe $118,000.00. Anyone who earns $118,000.01 and over, only pays into FICA for the first $118k they earn.

      This is clearly regressive because it means that those of us with lower incomes are supporting the rich people with our Social Security deductions.

      Not to mention the benighted Republicans want to gamble our Social Security on the stock exchange. They claim this will make the fund last longer.

      Well, they can do two things to fix that:

      1) remove the cap. How simple is that? Just remove the freaking cap

      2) Congress can vote to repay the money “borrowed” from the Social Security fund by Reagan and Bush2. They can take it from the bloated DOD budget. The DOD thinks nothing of wasting $125 billion, despite the number of suffering USians.

      “Pentagon buries evidence of $125 billion in bureaucratic waste”

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/pentagon-buries-evidence-of-125-billion-in-bureaucratic-waste/2016/12/05/e0668c76-9af6-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?wpisrc=nl_draw2&wpmm=1

    • A rather obvious attempt (not to mention slippery) to let Rand off the hook. Nice try but I ain’t buying what you’re selling.

      • Scott, no one is forced to accept Social Security. We may choose to accept and we may choose to reject. I am certain that was also true in Rand’s day. Which wasn’t that long ago as I remember watching her on Johnny Carson. It was as if nothing human looked out of her eyes.

        So, she didn’t have to accept her Social Security, that she did makes her a hypocrite.

  32. Somebody above remarked on some name calling. Boo Hoo- Boo Hoo. I was 8 years old the first time I got called a fag. And I’ve been called every horrible name you can imagine for more than 5 decades- BY CHRISTIANS. Sorry. Payback’s a bitch- isn’t it. If I call you a name- YOU DESERVE IT.

    • That’s right, and I’ve heard ever kind of demeaning joke about us…

      ….in churches !

      Wait, then, they will say…

      .. but I didn’t say those disparaging remarks!

      No, some of you listened quietly, smugly or you laughed and sneered.

      No, you didn’t say a thing to defend LGBT people;

      Oh that’s right, I remember now,

      in your ignorance,

      you didn’t think there were an gay Christians in your church.

      • Or if you did think there was a gay Christian, in your church, you made sure to tell your despicable joke loudly and within ear shot of them while you continually gave us the evil eye, until we gave up an left your church.

        are you proud?

  33. While the hate-filled, unloving, inaccurate, unrestricted/undiscerned judging and condemning, and harmful false accusations (yes, this is mixed with some truth; yet see Genesis 3:1-5; yes, there are many real concerns about Trump) in the “Trump stole Christmas” screed is deeply disturbing, while it is self-defeating, while it clashes with God’s Word…even the “red letters,” and while…because of all this…we could call this VERY sinful and sin-filled, the bigger concern is VERY few seem to care, at all, about the sinful, false, unloving, hate, judgmental-while-making-false-judgments . Furthermore, it is praised by many who likely state that it is wrong to judge, wrong to condemn, wrong to falsely accuse, wrong to spread false accusations, wrong to mock out leaders and disrespect those in authority. But, again, the bigger problem is there is no real concern about all THAT, it is mainly about spreading the false narratives that have been bought into, and repeated, without thinking them through. The main response(s) to something like this is to mock, falsely accuse, redirect, attack, distort…kind of like the response in blog post above…and to do so in the name of love and Jesus.

    • “The main response(s) to something like this is to mock, falsely accuse, redirect, attack, distort…kind of like the response in blog post above…”

      • If you take the metaphor to it’s logical conclusion the Grinch repents and the people of Whoville forgive him.

        Now, that is good news!

      • you called that one

        (but don’t get cocky, that was too easy, predicting blame-shifting and personal attacks from a group that do not esteem personal responsible was easy to call)

        • The Grinch’s heart grew and grew and grew until it burst out of it’s cage. Then he took responsibility and gave back all that he stole.

  34. Brilliant and spot on. I’ve always loved your writing, but this is just freaking poetic! (And to all the Haters: You know he’s absolutely pegged Trump for the selfish, spoiled, greedy bastard he really is . . . you voted for him. . .now you’ve got to own the creep. Trump makes the Grinch look like Mother Theresa.)

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    • Don’t get too cocky about your so-called “win;” that man is a menace to civilized society and could very easily drag us into another World War. And if you thought the first two were bad, just WAIT.

  36. That is a really nice piece of writing. It could be the next generations “must memorize” verse in grade school. I am sad so many people feel the need to express opinions on anything but this actual prose and the Trump reality you are trying to describe and share with us. The verse sadly rings too true.

    Thank you for sharing this.

  37. I see a lot of complacency about impeaching the Donald but we must keep in mind that if we get rid of him we have to deal with Mike Pence. And frankly he TERRIFIES me. It was only four years ago that my husband and I were able to get married legally; the threat of that being taken away is not something we take lightly.

  38. Joe Catholic, you assume that every fetus would like to be born and that’s a very poor assumption in the case of those severely disabled by birth defects.

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  40. I do think they will impeach him, allow him to be indicted for crime(s), or in some other way do away with him as President. Then they get Pence — a more predictable and controllable politician. And, a horror. We shall see.

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  42. Thank you for speaking truth and standing up for what is right. We must continue to resist and speak up until the lying incompetent con man is gone from the White House and decency is restored.

  43. Just started following you, John, and this is brilliant!

    I was raised Catholic, but I am an independent voter, more liberal than not. One thing
    I need to get across to those who are Christian, or pro-life, or anti-gay……you need to remember that the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, and abortion is legal, and gay marriage is as well. Not everyone on this country is Christian, and I think it is arrogant and un-American for Christians to expect everyone to agree with their beliefs. Whether you agree with a person’s choice or not is irrelevant. If the law states that something is legal, it is, until that changes. This country is full of people who practice various religions, and not all are based on a belief in Christ. If you don’t like abortion, then why not work on the prevention of unwanted pregnancies, or, come up with a plan on how to care for unwanted babies after they are born. I think this would he a better way to spend time and energy, instead of this constant attempt to take rights away from fellow citizens.

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