Jemele Hill was Right. Donald Trump is a White Supremacist.

ESPN talk show host Jemele Hill posted a series of Tweets calling President Trump a white supremacist who has surrounded himself with other white supremacists.

Lots of white Americans promptly and violently responded in a way that suggests she probably shouldn’t have stopped there:

‘Cause nothing says “we’re not white supremacists,” like a bunch of white people publicly bullying a woman of color for speaking out on white supremacy. That’s helpful and definitely not racist.

The White House joined in the caucasian outrage, with Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders declaring that Hill’s comments constituted a “fireable offense.” Maybe it’s me, but if calling the President a white supremacist is a fireable offense—then him actually being one sure as heck should be.

This is the heart of the hypocrisy on display here, and the reason Hill isn’t wrong, even if you disagree with her conclusions or her methods.

You don’t get to hire Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Sebastian Gorka, and Jeff Sessions—and simultaneously mount a high horse of righteous indignation at the suggestion that you’re probably a bigot.

You don’t get to spend a lifetime exemplifying the absolute insulation from accountability that is white privilege—and get to play the victim card when a black woman brings it up.

You don’t get to call a violent horde of torch-wielding nazis in Charlottesville, “fine people,” and blame the deadly violence on “both sides”—and then act as if charges of supremacy are without merit.

You can’t be the Presidential candidate officially endorsed by the KKK, and then bristle when people of color question your commitment to equality—especially when nearly every Cabinet appointment bolsters such questions.

And if you’re supporting this man, you don’t suddenly get to tone police someone for their audacity or cry “hurtful language”. If you’ve continually defended the King of Crass who you’ve applauded for “speaking his mind” and for “telling it like it is.”—that criticism of Hill doesn’t ring true. It also seems a disconnect to ask for a sports talk show host to be fired on grounds of inciting racial discord—when you voted for a man who has done nothing but fan the flames of bigotry.

In the wake of a white (and White House) wave of outrage, Hill has since publicly apologized for her comments and ESPN has “accepted her apology,” which honestly both feel like confirmation that she was probably right and evidence that Donald Trump’s America is turning back the clock on any progress we’ve made toward racial equity.

For a sports network whose heralded “30 for 30” series often documents the way sports, politics, and civil rights offenses have overlapped—you’d expect it to be among Hill’s most fierce defenders. I guess they haven’t been paying attention to their own programming—or they’re going to wait 20 years and feature her in an episode where they laud her candor.

We can argue all we want about what is or isn’t appropriate for a sports talk show host to comment on or whether Hill’s Tweets were abrasive to some, but that’s a fruitless diversion; it’s just talking around what we should be talking about here. It’s disingenuous for supporters of this President to feign offense at Hill’s tone or her bluntness. If they really want to call out vile hatred, stereotyping, and bullying—they need to check his recent resume again. That white people are more incensed by her comments than by Trump’s body of work, is exactly why we have a problem here.

White supremacy isn’t a club you officially join; something that either is or isn’t true. It isn’t like eye color or blood type or nation of origin. Saying you believe someone’s outward actions reveal a prejudice or an irrational fear is an opinion. Everyone is allowed to say what they see in us. People evaluate the fruit in other’s lives and make evaluations. You can disagree with their conclusions but that doesn’t mean they’re lying or wrong. Racism, homophobia, bigotry, misogyny, anti-Semitism can’t be proven or disproven. If someone says they see that in us we should pay attention.

Jemele Hill is a woman of color speaking plainly about her experience of America and about what she sees. Rather than arguing with her experience, telling her why she doesn’t see what she sees, or trying to badger her into silence—more white Americans should just shut-up and listen.

Maybe we should sit with her observations and sift them for their truth despite what feels offensive. Perhaps we should refrain from responding with the kind of ferocity and vitriol that illustrate exactly what she and others have been saying.

Maybe instead of defending a President whose Administration has displayed the very essence of privilege, white people should be trying to hear someone brave enough to speak that clear truth to a corrupt power. And if Hill’s position as a talk show host represents to you, a dangerous bully pulpit wielded irresponsibly, you may want to examine what the White House represents.

Perhaps white Americans should stop enabling bigotry at the highest levels of government and stop trying to silence people of color who speak out, whenever their words hit to close to home or piss us off too much. Maybe that outrage is an alarm going off inside us, telling us something stinks here—and it’s probably not a sports talk show host’s Tweets. Maybe we sense there’s hard truth there that we’d rather not deal with. 

Not only that, but the white clergy of this country needs to condemn Donald Trump’s coddling of racists and supremacists instead of excusing it from the pulpit, instead of normalizing it and pretending Jesus is okay with it.

And a network like ESPN who understands and usually leverages and exploits the way that sports, politics, and civil rights intersect—should be using Hill’s comments to further dialogue on the racial fractures in this country, rather than simply shutting her down and pretending to get back to why LeBron James’ legs are getting too old to whether another full season.

Jemele Hill is right to speak and she shouldn’t have to apologize for seeing what she sees. If you feel she unfairly lumped you into a lazy stereotype that doesn’t apply to you—maybe you’ll understand how frustrating that is, and you’ll try to be more willing to see people as individuals and not caricatures you can accessorize as you wish. Maybe as a black woman, Jemele knows what that feels like better than you and I. 

She’s giving White Americans yet another chance to prove that the pain of people of color is worth more than our discomfort at the expression of such pain.

Let’s not drop the ball.

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101 thoughts on “Jemele Hill was Right. Donald Trump is a White Supremacist.

  1. Well John, YOUR Wrong
    it does not matter who you are or what color your skin is, or ethnic race you are.
    It seems that america is on a witch hunt.
    Who they can crucify for the Press or public appinion
    The real Problem is a Godless Society that really wants to be noticed, and goes out of thier way to show that.
    YOUR no exception
    The heart is wicked, desparately wicked.
    That is what God Says in the bible.
    But if we just dont use the bible, or have a form of Godlyness so we can fleece the unsuspecting public for MONEY , the god of this world. Then That s ok.
    Godlessness will abound in the last days, the End is near, the Hearts of The Godless are making thier views, ways, objectives Known.
    This is days when God is Trying for the last moment to Get the attention of Mankind. YOU, YOUR people, YOUR readers
    That is right God , Holy God, Just God, The God of The Bible , is seeking who will serve HIM , Not mankind and His system of fairness.
    Godless is what you see all around and then they seem to blame God, Tell God why he did not perform to thier expectations .
    Well God , Holy God , Just God is NOT A Genie
    YOU cannot tell God what, where, how, why you deserve, expect, demand your own way.
    Justice will Come.
    Those Who Proclaim the Name of Jesus Christ, Godliness by Faith, and Trust, Believe in the name of Jesus Christ and YOU shall be saved.
    The Cares of this world , the passions of life will fade away as you grow and learn and seek Holiness. NOT Selfishness
    Many will have answers , False Answers , False views , and direction that will lead many to the pits of Hell and Damnation.
    But God Being Just will Give all A second chance to come to Him, Believe in Him, to turn away from ungodly lust , Passions that lead to REBELLION against God.
    Repent , Trust, Turn , Ask Jesus Christ in to your heart for that second chance . Dont trust the world and its views . Lies of the media

    • Christopher. I am still trying to figure out whether you consider this “stuff” you write to be poetry? In addition, I need to know where you learned how to spell words. Here is how you do it as poetry:

      Think. Make. Do.
      Holy it is,
      I tell you…

      IFB Baptist I am.
      Wal-Mart shirt
      George pants that hurt
      Shoes made of Corfam by DuPont
      My body dipt deep in the Baptismal font.

      Seven Godly brothers united By Brown
      One in that Baptismal font did drown
      Leaving behind:
      Nylon Brown
      Orlon Brown
      Dacron Brown
      Rayon Brown
      Aramid Brown
      Kevlar Brown

      Now, you try it.

    • If you honestly feel this current administration is “Godly” you need to pick up your bible again. Also no offense but not everybody recognizes your God. This country was built on Religious freedom and if people would go back to civics class they would remember there is a separation of Church and State for a reason. The Radical Christian Terrorism overflowing the stress of this nation is a shining example of why

    • When you can tell the difference between you’re and your, I might read your entire diatribe. Until then, I think you’re speaking drivel.

    • Wow! Christopher. You just missed the point of what John is saying. As a woman of color who is a Christian, all that you had to say is irrevelant to the subject of rac ism and bigotry!

  2. Thank you do much for this insightful post, John. I’ve had it up to here with the racism and hypocrisy of this administration and many (far too many) whites and so-called Christians. Ms.Hill is absolutely correct in her indictment, but she’s committed two unpardonable offenses – she’s a person of color, and a woman with an opinion.

    • Black people are told how we should respond to racism, which in itself is a form of racism. Privilege says to whites that do this, that they have a right that is superior to ours that grants them the authority to dictate our rights to us. Just like, taking a knee. Silent, non-violent protest that has nothing to do with the flag, or disrespecting the sacrifice of veterans, is black NFL players protesting the “wrong” way. As I have said to people who accuse black people of always “playing the race card”, I am identifiably black every day of my life with its co-requisite headaches. It is not a “card” I am playing, it is my life. It is who I am and how non-blacks respond to me. Don’t think that you know me because of the color of my skin. My character runs so much deeper than my melanin. It is not my responsibility to prove my worth to anyone. I am unapologetically and confidently, black. But I am going to call them as I see them, which is my right. Trump is a racist.

  3. Well said, as ever. When sports writers talk about race, trolls say, “stick to sports!” I wonder what they’ll say when preachers talk about race.

  4. Jemele Hill IS right. And ESPN needs viewers. Thus, apology.
    As much as we call from the rooftops, moral outrage has lost its potentcy. The country is exhausted by scandal and investigations that far exceed its attention span. It would rather kill the messenger than roll up its sleeves. Football season is starting, after all – and didn’t we vote for a shakeup in DC?

    I read articles like this one in Politico and wonder how much use our sermonizing can hope to be:
    Ta-Nehesi Coates (the first White President, Atlantic Magazine) is absolutely right. And exhausted himself by America, he and his family have fled to France. Wincing, I hear the cheers of far too many.

  5. Jemele Hill is right and if a person is open to the evidence, willing to face facts, desiring to be guided by the truth, that person will agree with John P’s assessment.

    We have more evidence than we could possibly need that scrotus and the GOP have gone over to the racist/white supremacist side and no longer try to hide it.

    Anyone who attempts to defend scrotus and the GOP is a person without credibility. Anyone who attempts to defend scrotus and the GOP is a person who has adopted their “values” of authoritarianism, bigotry, denial of climate change, destroying families, destruction of the planet and God’s creation, discrimination, fascism, global warming, gynophobia, hatred of the poor, homophobia, intolerance of a different of opinion, intolerance of people that are different, Islamaphobia, kleptocracy, misogyny, nonpartisanship, police brutality, prejudice, racism, in favour of rape, in favour of sexual assault, in favour of sexual harassment, in favour of sexual molestation, transgenderphobia, white supremacy, and xenophobia.

    We do not need such evil in the USA. We do not want such evil in the USA. We fight this evil in the USA. Part of the way I do it is via my Facebook group, Gloriamarie’s Progressive Petitions,

    Those who wish to act on the side of the angels are welcome to join. Please answer the screening question because no spammers or trolls are allowed. If you don’t see it, please PM me and let me know. Please take the pinned post seriously. Fight the good fight with us.

      • Just curious, but how do you feel about protecting actual living children from dying through starvation or disease, as one did in the time it took to read this sentence? How do you feel about protecting children from war, gun violence, or other means of pointless violent death? How do you feel about widespread institutionalized injustice, that causes countless children to die? How do you feel about children being forced to bear children for their rapists? How do you feel about children killed by substance abuse? How do you feel about protecting actual living children from unjust death?

        How do you feel about people who would take a difficult and personal subject like abortion and reduce it to a racist dog-whistle?

        Children deserve to be nurtured and protected in an environment where they are cared for, instead of being used as a pawn for people with pretensions of theocracy who seek to use their particular slants on when life begins as a weapon to control others.

    • No trolls allowed? There must be at least one troll allowed because by definition trolling is posting inflammatory remarks meant to trigger people. While I’m not affiliated with the GOP, I can see how someone who is might be triggered by such inflammatory remarks.

      Calling people names was quite pointless when I was in grade school over 50 years ago, evidently things have changed. Now things are settled by mere associations because of a reluctance to
      settle them with arguments. Obviously I’m not taking your post seriously.

      • Teo wrote, “No trolls allowed? There must be at least one troll allowed because by definition trolling is posting inflammatory remarks meant to trigger people. ”

        I cannot figure out to whom you are addressing this comment. If you are addressing it to me about my FB group. Gloriamarie’s Progressive Stuff, then I can assure you that a troll has only to rear its ugly head once and I ban that person.

        If you are addressing John P, available evidence forces us to conclude that he has a high tolerance for trolls.

        On John’s blog he gets to determine what is or is not acceptable to him because it is his blog.

        In my group, I get to determine what is or is not acceptable to me because it is my group.

        • gloriamarie: Teo is pointing out the ‘troll-esque’ nature of John Pavlovitz’s essays. How he… “deliberately posts provocative messages with the intention of causing maximum disruption /or arguments.’ [His targets being: Republicans, Conservatives, Trump, Conservative Christians, the bible, white Christian men, etc.. ]

          • Not the Bible Leslie. It is your wrong view and poor understanding of the Bible he is coming after. He does that quite well because your view and understanding of the Bible is only about 100 years old. Most Christians throughout human history have never read the Bible as an inerrant, simple, internally consistent, literal document. One of these days you will understand that the fundie view stands outside the circle of traditional, orthodox Christianity.

  6. Dear John Pavlovitz:

    And, Mr. Trump has surrounded himself with generals, but who other than yours truly points to an impending palace coup? He also surrounds himself with multi-billionaires, but who other than yours truly points to class struggle?

    Mr. Trump, his policies and behavior, and his cadre of fascists [Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Sebastian Gorka] are indeed disgusting, corrupt and politically inexcusable. And Ms. Hill is right.

    But so long as you hitch your wagon to the Democrat team, you’re never going to face the collapse of the Republic and class warfare against the 90%. That’s the rub.


    • Neither. The problem is white people like you who claim they have no racism within them. All white Americans over age 30 today were raised in a race-conscious culture created by racist tradition. While they might consciously claim no racism, the elements of it are still there inside them. It shows up in small things. For example, most people do not like to use ice-cream spoons that were just used by someone else. They just ran out of clean spoons. Given a spoon just used by Buffy and a spoon just used by LaShonda, which dirty spoon would you pick Joe? Both I and 70,000,000 other white people in the American South would choose Buffy’s spoon first—not because we hate LaShonda—we actually love her—but there is still that remaining trace of enculturated racism that all Southern Whites still have—like the one our moms taught us at age 2—the one that says black people have whole different species of exceptionally dangerous germs that live in their mouths that do not live in white mouths.

      Black people are aware of this subtle racism stuff too. A black girl who was a retail cashier once told me that she and other black cashiers always know who the racists are when they check them out. They are the white customers who are careful to not let the skin of the black cashier’s hand touch theirs when they hand out coin change from the register. Ever since that time, I am always careful to allow a black cashier’s hand to touch mine when giving out change to me—my signal to her that I am not one of “them.”

      • Dear Charles:

        Without ‘whitewashing’ the evident racism, don’t be distracted from the class analysis that is the real driver of the ongoing class war against the world’s working poor.


    • Dear Bourgeoisie Joe:

      Personal/political gain the point of capitalist political economy.

      Blasphemously outrageous lies regarding our public education system earned you the recognition that you are no ‘catholic’ and all bourgeoisie. But in ruling class circles, that creates no cognitive dissonance.


    • JC,
      “Which is worse? Racism or falsely accusing others of racism for the sake of personal or political gain?”
      Excellent question.

  7. Identifying racism is like identifying any other harmful behavior–the identification is not made by the perpetrator, but by the victim.

    There’s two things going on here; race is the obvious one. The perhaps-not-so-obvious other part is the gender of the black person in question. Would this have gotten the same outrage if it had been said by a black man? Would the suggestion have been made that he should be fired?
    Probably, but maybe not. Jemele Hill is not being censored just because she’s black–she’s being slapped down by the white patriarchy for daring to say that she doesn’t like the way things are being run. Two strikes against her. And I have no doubt that she has received disgusting, dangerous threats of bodily violence, rape and death for speaking out.
    Her position at ESPN has nothing to do with her credentials for calling out white supremacy for what it is. As a victim of racism and sexism, she has both the RIGHT and the DUTY to object to the demeaning and disenfranchising of those who are targeted by any behavior that makes them as “less than”.
    The fact that the President of our country is also a white supremacist should cause a massive outrage — because he is the representative of our nation to the rest of the world. If no one was watching, most of the world is NOT white. They are not amused by him, they are not cutting him slack, they are not excusing any of his behavior. We shouldn’t either. It’s very dangerous to the very concept of America as the world’s melting pot, a place where anyone can go and succeed, to have a leader that denies the very humanity of millions of its citizens. Between his racism and his misogyny/sexism, he apparently views more than 69% of Americans as worthless. (White men make up about 31% of the population; by comparison, they hold 65% of all government jobs. From the WaPo, here:
    The Emperor is not allowed to say he’s naked but the rest of us can surely call him out when he’s not dressed. And Mr. Trump, if you cannot condemn white supremacy (and you don’t), then YOU are part of the problem.

  8. I just hate it that I see so many “normally not racist” whites around me marching in step with people that show themselves to be racist leaders. These leaders get pass from too many people by “proving themselves not be be racists” because they don’t use the n-word and they don’t overtly discriminate. You don’t have to discriminate against black women directly, just discriminate against any possible hairstyle they may wear. Rasict police officers don’t have to discriminate against black men, you just keep harassing them verbally and physically until they talk back as then they can assault them and possibly kill them under pretext of “being threatened” and under the color of law, an offense that would send the rest of us to prison. They don’t discriminate against black youth, they discriminate against “the urban culture”. These are the most blatant possible ways for white racists to push their agenda in the dark.

    • How do you discriminate against a hair style? Police officers can verbally assault anyone regardless of race, gender, nationality etc. They’re becoming positively indiscriminant in their thuggish behavior. Perhaps it used to be confined to blacks; it’s not just for blacks anymore. We’re all on the Plantation now.

      You’re right about discriminating against culture rather than race though. It’s all about culture really. It’s not just how white people are incapable of interacting in a different culture, but a type of culture that some black people grow up in that prevents them from being successful.

      • Dear Teo:

        ‘They’re becoming positively indiscriminant in their thuggish behavior…’

        It’s class based. Whatever the color, it is the poor who are brutalized.

        The ruling class knows the public narrative has collapsed. Guns are all that are left to ensure subjugation of the working class.

        For that reason, police-acted terrorism IS the future.


  9. Thank you John. I’m uncovering lots of racism in me that I was unaware of. Listening to those who actually suffer from white privilege explaining what it is and how it affects them has been the best way to understand it. My white mindset sometimes doesn’t see it. Imagine that!! Thanks to Jemele and all those who courageously shine a light on it including you. Very much appreciated.

  10. I applaud you, John, for your well-worded expose on this topic. You have an amazing capacity to look through people’s words to their innermost thought processes, and call them what they are, either for good or for ill. My experience with young people of many nationalities across this country is that they have a penchant for learning, and want to do what is of value for themselves, and more importantly for others, of any race or nationality. Why we as white people can’t seem to “get this” is beyond me. In the classrooms where I taught in colleges and universities, I rarely saw the roadblocks that Trump and his followers seem to think are always there for others who are not white. I taught Muslims, Jews, Palestinians, Blacks, Whites, Orientals, it made no difference to me. We as whites need to wake up and smell the coffee burning in our own morning pot.

    • Well, I’ll tell you what the problem is Katie. There was a time in this country when people with a skin color other than white had a place of their own and they knew to stay in it—or else. That assured that all the really good opportunities in America would be open to white people ONLY. Nowadays, black people apply for opportunities (and they sometimes get special favors over white people), so they get the opportunities instead of the white people. “It’s just not fair.” They oughta just leave it all alone and be color blind—like things used to be—with no special favors for anybody—like back in the 1950s. Back in those days, white folks all knew that there was not a colored man or colored woman anywhere in America that could do any job better than any white man or white woman. So, just naturally, the only people that would ever get a decent opportunity would be the white people. Opportunities were based solely on merit, and everyone knew that no Mandingo or Mandinga had even an ounce of merit at all—on anything. The system was color blind—focused only on merit—and it worked because only the white people had merit. This country will never be safe again until we get back to a merit system like that—one we know works.

      Just in case anyone would like to know, the above communication to Katie is what white racist Americans mean today when they say that everything that goes down in America “ought to be color blind.” It is founded on the principle that all opportunities should be based on merit—with one crucial proviso—white America must remember in each case that no black man or black woman ever has any merit—zero merit—with regard to any available opportunity. Therefore, all decent opportunities will just naturally go to white people.

      My racist white uncle tried this out on me one time when we were discussing opportunities in American life:

      He said: “You do know that there is not a black man out there that can do this job better than you. You do know that, don’t you?”

      I replied: “That is not a fair basis for evaluation because there is no white man out there either that could do that job better than me.”

      I saw the smoke plume rising from his head. The world of his childhood had been turned upside down by the Civil Rights Movement. He had grown up in a world where black people said: “I don’ts knows—but lets me shuffle over yonder and fetch it fer ya.” He was living in a new world: “Get it yourself white man, or I’ll cut your sorry ass.” He could not live with the changes. He died in 1993, went to Heaven for an evaluation, and the first words out of God’s mouth to him were: ‘Before Abraham was, I IS.”

      • “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket.”
        – LBJ

        • LBJ nailed it, Edwin Mix.

          All of us white people, regardless of how long or how short a time we and our families have been in the USA, participate in the systemic racism this country embraced a very long time ago. Both sets of my grandparents immigrated to the USA in the early 1920s and all of them became racists and taught their kids to be so also.

          As Charles pointed out, there was a time when all POC stuck to their own neighborhoods and “knew their place” and “uppity” POC were punished for it.

          Then came the day when Rosa Parks and others refused to move to the back of the bus, many of us woke up, and the Civil Rights movement started. It was quite shocking to me to have my own racism revealed to me and I have been repenting of it ever since. It’s like peeling an onion, though, because racism is a pervasive, systemic evil in the USA.

  11. Michael Coren just wrote an editorial for The Toronto Star today -“White People Need to Understand That Racism isReal”. excellent article and hard hitting.
    “Terms such as racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, transphobia and the rest did not develop from a vacuum and without cause.”
    Jemele Hill just calls it like it is. White people (and I am one!) need to get over it. Enough already.

  12. An interesting statute.

    18 U.S. Code § 227 – Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch
    (a) Whoever, being a covered government person, with the intent to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity
    (1) takes or withholds, or offers or threatens to take or withhold, an official act, or
    (2) influences, or offers or threatens to influence, the official act of another,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than 15 years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
    (b) In this section, the term “covered government person” means—
    (1) a Senator or Representative in, or a Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress;
    (2) an employee of either House of Congress; or
    (3) the President, Vice President, an employee of the United States Postal Service or the Postal Regulatory Commission, or any other executive branch employee (as such term is defined under section 2105 of title 5, United States Code).

    • Edwin, thank you for posting this. I’m no legal scholar, but it certainly seems to me that Sarah Huckabee Sanders, in her role of an “executive branch employee”, (no doubt at the instigation of her boss), is “wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions”. I think we all need to bring this to the attention of our senators and congressional representatives.

  13. Interesting song lyrics (For 1000 points, guess the artist)

    Have you ever thought about your soul – can it be saved?
    Or perhaps you think that when you’re dead you just stay in your grave
    Is God just a thought within your head or is he a part of you?
    Is Christ just a name that you read in a book when you were in school?

    When you think about death do you lose your breath or do you keep your cool?
    Would you like to see the Pope on the end of a rope do you think he’s a fool?
    Well I have seen the truth, yes I’ve seen the light and I’ve changed my ways
    And I’ll be prepared when you’re lonely and scared at the end of our days

    Could it be you’re afraid of what your friends might say
    If they knew you believe in God above?
    They should realize before they criticize
    that God is the only way to love

    Is your mind so small that you have to fall
    In with the pack wherever they run
    Will you still sneer when death is near
    And say that you may as well worship the sun?

    I think it is true it was people like you that crucified Christ
    I think it is sad the opinion you had was the only one voiced
    Will you be so sure when your day is near, say you don’t believe?
    You had the chance but you turned it down, now you can’t retrieve

    Perhaps you’ll think before you say that God is dead and gone
    Open your eyes, just realize that he’s the one
    The only one who can save you now from all this sin and hate
    Or will you still jeer at all you hear? Yes! I think it’s too late.

  14. Thank you, John, for this insightful and incisive commentary. One does wonder why Miss Texas hasn’t been similarly pilloried for her comments, but it’s actually not so surprising when you realize that Ms. Hill has two strikes against her – she’s a woman of color, and she has an opinion. Both of those things are a no-go in Trump’s America.

  15. Jemele Hill was right, Trump is a White Supremacist; if there is one set people who know how to recognize a White Supremacist, it’s black folks and there is no intention to offend white folks who are not White Supremacist.

  16. Yeah, white people. Just what in the f-bomb is your problem with people who are not white people? What have they ever done to you PERSONALLY to make you so upset at them? Here is your chance to tell me and everyone else. Just what exactly is your problem with people who are not white. Make me a list right here. You have been talking about it ever since November 2007, but when you do talk about it, you tell me everything else but WHY you have a problem with nonwhite Americans. I want to hear it. Spit it out. Right here. Right now.

    • I have a problem with black people and white people who want to make me feel guilty because of the pigmentation I inherited, and for dirty dealing of the race card as the means to push a leftist agenda.

      • I can’t speak for others but I don’t want you to feel guilty for things you and I inherited. I do want you to understand the advantages we inherited, though, and empathize with those who don’t have those advantages and as a result have a more difficult day-to-day experience. And I want you to give them a hand up when you can. It’s not about flogging yourself. It’s about helping to raise others up.

        The paragraph I wrote above could be about inheriting money and nobody would question it, but for some reason when it’s about race we are threatened by the idea of acknowledging that privilege.

      • Dear Bourgeoisie Joe:

        I have a problem with people, black, white or green, who presume that the world, everything and everyone one it is their property to exploit, manipulate into wars, and eradicate when they become inconvenient.


      • Cmon Joe, where would you be if you couldn’t play the victim incessantly? You know you love us, damnit . . . you NEED us. We give your life meaning

  17. Charles White-Person wrote, “You have been talking about it ever since November 2007, but when you do talk about it, you tell me everything else but WHY you have a problem with nonwhite Americans. I want to hear it. Spit it out. Right here. Right now.”

    May I ask to whom is this addressed? In my feed it came up as a response to John P who obviously does not have a problem with POC so I am curious who it is you challenge.

  18. “Exactly what happened to Jemele Hill and Michael Smith at ESPN on Wednesday
    There’s more to the story.” by LINDSAY GIBBS, JUDD LEGUM
    SEP 15, 2017, 1:21 PM

    On Thursday, ThinkProgress exclusively reported that amid brewing controversy over Jemele Hill’s tweets calling President Donald Trump a “white supremacist,” ESPN had initially tried to keep Hill off the air on Wednesday for the 6:00 p.m. ET broadcast of SportsCenter.

    Two sources close to the situation told ThinkProgress that Hill’s co-host, Michael Smith, refused to go on the air without her, as did two black anchors ESPN asked to serve as fill-ins. Eventually, ESPN called Hill back to the studio and the show went on as usual.

    ThinkProgress spoke with ESPN prior to publication and they provided a response that was included in the original article. After the article was published, ESPN provided numerous outlets, including ThinkProgress, an additional statement: “We never asked any other anchors to do last night’s show. Period.”

    ESPN used this short statement to suggest that ThinkProgress’ initial report was inaccurate. It generated headlines like “ESPN denies trying to bench Jemele Hill for calling Trump ‘white supremacist’” and “ESPN denies report it tried to pull Jemele Hill off the air Wednesday.”

    But ThinkProgress has subsequently learned more details about exactly what happened on Wednesday to Hill and Smith. In light of these new facts, ESPN’s “denial” is much less than meets the eye.

    Here is what actually happened, according to four sources familiar with the situation who spoke with ThinkProgress on the condition of anonymity.

    Late Wednesday morning, after a contentious meeting, a top executive at ESPN told Hill to go home. She was seen in the parking lot around 11:30 a.m. ET, the time she is usually in meetings to plan out the show.

    When he learned that Hill was sent home, Smith immediately made it known that he would not appear on the 6 p.m. broadcast without her. That left ESPN with no hosts for its flagship show, scheduled to start in just a few hours.

    More may be read here:

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  20. It should come as no surprise to me that our President is demanding an apology. Why is there no call out on his hypocrisy as he constantly uses twitter or his pulpit to name call, bully, lie and mock so many others. The outrageous behavior of this President and his administration fills me with such despair. How ridiculous that they call for Ms. Hill’s firing.

  21. Jemele and John either A) Don’t know the meaning of the word supremacist and have redefined it to bolster their political hatred of a president, which makes them unreliable, or B) Have unknowingly conflated supremacist with nationalist, which makes them uninformed, or C) Have willfully blended the two, which makes them untrustworthy.

    In any case, equating Trump and his hires with neo-Nazi and KKK fools is absurd and counterproductive—and is the essence of bigotry. If Ms. Hill violated her contract with ESPN with her tweets, she should be fired.

    Removing this slanderous and bigoted post would be the responsible thing to do, John. You should hold yourself to the same standard you hold the president, and dismount from your own high horse.

  22. I’ve drifted away from the media over the years, but even I could see that both sides came to this little party with weapons in hand. Who in their right mind actually thinks that white supremacists are making a comeback??? They’re irrelevant to anyone who has a life. Give them your attention if you want to, but this only spotlights some pointless need to feel superior to idiots; not what I would call much of a standard. When someone points out that we should all have the right to freedom of speech, right or wrong; why are you so indignant and reluctant to extend to them the same courtesy? Censoring and silencing the opposition with ad hominem attacks doesn’t win an argument.

    In this age of identity politics I find it interesting and a bit ironic that a man who chooses to identify as a woman must have his/her wishes respected while you are in no way required to extend the same courtesy to those who have never identified themselves as white supremacists or racists. Why the double standard? You get to call them as you see them, but if anyone else points out that she is a man, they’re a “hater”, a homophobe, bigot etc. When there are actually people out there who admit and are proud of the fact that they are white supremacists, I wonder why one wouldn’t go after them instead of those who have never made this claim. I also find it a bit disingenuous to suddenly find this fault when he becomes President. It’s blatant nonsense. I didn’t vote for the guy. I don’t like him anymore than anyone else does, but just because he’s a bit of an idiot, doesn’t make him a racist. Calling him one doesn’t make him one either. Prove it.

    The Klan is a magnificent joke. They’re relics from the past. They’ve become a parody of themselves, and yet no one sees the punchline here at all. Why? Because they hit just a bit too close to home for most people; too close for anyone to admit. Hypocrisy that is glaringly hilarious for those of us who are able to see that white supremacists are a joke, if they’re even real to begin with. One can’t help suspect they were paid actors who just stepped into the most recent episode of The Twilight Zone. .

    What we hate most in others is what we most assuredly choose to ignore in ourselves. What bothers us most in others is what we are most unwilling to address in our own lives. Pull the 2 x 4 out of your own eye, and that speck in your neighbor’s eye will probably come out all by itself.

  23. Your point that Trump supporters have no ground on which to stand concerning Ms. Hill’s bluntness and tone is entirely valid. If you don’t have a problem with Trump’s crude behavior, you can’t get bent out of shape over someone else calling people names. Your claim is completely true. So, why make stuff up to prove your point? You say whites “violently responded,” yet I can find no such occurrence. Can you point to examples of all these white people (lots, in your words) who responded violently? Or is a tweet saying, in essence, “Bigot! I’m telling!” considered violence now? Cause if it is, you are an extremely violent person yourself.

    • Progressives (freedom haters) now consider ‘free speech’ to be criminal. They are working on changing the Constitution, so that ‘verbal offenders’ will be prosecuted & see long prison sentences. Their short-sightedness is colossal!

      • Most progressives are not working to change the Constitution nor taking away your right to speak. If that was true Rush Limbaugh and the like would be off the air. You have a right to speak and not be arrested, tried, nor convicted of your speech unless you purposefully incite a riot, or tell people to kill, or cause a riot or cause a panic. In those cases you could be arrested but most times that may not happen. You don’t have the right to be heard. You don’t have a right to someone else’s platform. We have a right to call you out on it and show you the door. We also have the right to decide to give you a platform if we so chose. That is what free speech is.

      • However, we do intend to prevent you fundies from using the First Amendment as a cynical and clever excuse to punish and take away the civil rights of LGBTQ Americans. We know what your deceitful fundie strategy is, inside out. The federal and state courts know it too. We plan to kill it dead as a doornail—and it will die.

        Maybe you can tell me why fundies deal in deceit and lies on an almost daily basis in this country? Maybe the truth never worked for you people because many of the so-called truths that you hold so precious are actually lies of your own fundie creation. God will not honor any lie or deceit that you try—even if you convince yourself that it advances the “fundie kingdom.” Maybe you should consider that the “fundie kingdom” and the Kingdom of God are two separate things, running parallel to each other but never really touching each other. I am warning you Leslie. God will not long tolerate fundie lies and deceit without punishing you people harshly. Donald Trump is just a brief breath on the fundie road to total destruction. Jesus is still waiting for you at the Mainline Christian churches—where he has been camped out since 33 A.D.

  24. Some self-awareness from Trump supporters would be refreshing.

    “Not every Trump voter is a white supremacist, just as not every white person in the Jim Crow South was a white supremacist. But every Trump voter felt it acceptable to hand the fate of the country over to one.”
    ~ Ta-Nehisi Coats

  25. Another ‘Yes!’, John. Thank you for your wisdom, courage, and candor. With Steve: “Thanks for continuing to shine the Light so that we can see more clearly. ” Perfect.

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  27. When I respect Jemele’s right to speak her mind, she is flat out wrong! President Trump isn’t a racist. Interestingly, prior to his running for the presidency, we never use to hear of these cries like we do now, but since he beat Hillary’s behind, we are now screaming he’s a racist.

    Some of the White people who are calling Trump a racist, are themselves racist people, and you can be assured that Black people know it!

    Donald Trump is NOT a White Supremist!

  28. Since when is Donald Trump a “white supremecist”? I don’t remember anyone talking abut the White Supremecist who was famous for saying “you’re fired,” or the White Supremecist who has his name on hotels all over the world, or the White Supremecist who was feuding with Rosie Odonnell.

    This is just a label stuck on him by his enemies and they all repeat it, knowing that in repeating a lie often enough it might be believed.

    Let’s face the fact that if you’re on the wrong side of the liberal fence, that is if you believe in more power for the people and less for the government, that men should marry women, or that babies in the womb should not be killed by abortionists, that you will be called a racist, or a “white supremecist,” or a “hater of women,” or an entire laundry list of nasty names simply for having common sense and/or following your conscience or religion.

    • As a white man, I’ll offer up this: white Americans don’t realize that having white supremacist beliefs doesn’t necessarily mean tattooing a swastika or “1488” on your chest.

      His statements about the Central Park Five, his statements about black people handling his money, and his opening election gambit of “Mexicans are rapists” isn’t the same as setting a cross on fire in the front yard of a black family. But they make noise. And the actual swastika toting, cross burners listen and like what he has to say.

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