Stop Tone Policing My Outrage at this President

You can tell a lot about people by what gets them angry, by the causes they choose to defend, by the stuff that moves them to speak after being silent for so long.

There are people I haven’t heard from since the 2016 Presidential campaign began; friends who gradually disconnected on social media; who virtually ghosted me, slowly and steadily going incommunicado. 

They stepped away from any public discourse, intentionally withdrawing from political commentary of any kind, citing how incendiary it all is.

I haven’t heard a peep from them privately or publicly over the past eighteen months:

Not when he said protestors at his rallies should have been roughed up.
Not when the vile Access Hollywood video surfaced. 
Not when refugees were stranded at airports.
Not when they were bulldozing Standing Rock burial grounds.
Not when Sally Yates was unceremoniously terminated.
Not when Elizabeth Warren was silenced and persisted.

Not when Nazis and racists in Charlottesville were called “fine people.”
Not when tens of millions lost healthcare under the cover of night.
Not when kneeling black NFL players were called sons of bitches.
Not when he tweeted taunts at North Korea.
Not when Evangelists offered public prayers for predatory Alabama senators.
Not when the #MeToos were victimized a second time.

Through all of this—nothing. Not a damn word. Flat-out mute people.

Nothing moved them to say anything, nothing burdened them enough to rouse them from their silence, nothing offended their sensibilities significantly enough to merit even a whisper.

And yet lately, many of these same folks have suddenly found their voices—solely to tell me that my words are problematic to them, that they’re uncomfortable with me, that the issue they have—is with the expression of my outrage.

“Your anger isn’t helpful.”
“This isn’t going to reach anyone.”
“There’s a better way to do this.”

What’s revelatory about these people, is that they’re seemingly less bothered by anything happening in this country: the human rights atrocities, the legislative overreach, the unchecked cruelty, the prevalent hate crimes—than they are by the manner in which those of us who are bothered by it all, are saying so.

They deem our words offense, 
our methods abrasive,
our delivery divisive,
our language hurtful.

This is the very height of irony: people who’ve spent eighteen months repeatedly glossing over or excusing or rationalizing away the most toxic, offensive, vulgar behavior and language—now greatly disturbed by a perceived lack of decorum.

This is how sideways it’s all gone here: that there are people apparently more concerned about the feelings of the bullies than about the very lives of those being bullied. I refuse to be one of those people.

If you’re waiting for me to apologize for emotionally wounding someone with the suggestion that they may not be all that keen on people of color, or that they’re likely afraid of gay people, or that their nationalism is showing because they defend what’s happening here—it’ll be a long wait.

I think the futures of dreamers and the welfare of sick people and the safety of LGBTQ teenagers and the stability of families of immigrants are worth the raising of my voice, and the forcefulness of my delivery, and the discomfort it causes anyone.

You may want to ask why you’re more willing to protest those who protest, than you are to speak into the injustice itself; why the only thing you feel burdened to openly resist is our resistance. You may be fighting the wrong battle, here.

If you’re more outraged by the tone of this President’s critics, than by his bigotry, dishonesty, misogyny, racism, and environmental recklessness—you’re enabling him, you’re normalizing him, you’re encouraging him.

Stop it.

258 thoughts on “Stop Tone Policing My Outrage at this President

  1. Ok. He’s obnoxious. He’s rude. His choice of words are often offensive. BUT…what about his accomplishments? I think he has brass balls. I like that he has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. I like that he has stopped funding for Palestinians. I like that he doesn’t mind standing up to those who hate us. He’s flawed. Yes. BUT….

    • Risa,

      This Christian Zionism is one of the many things that have turned me off conservative Christianity. The unqualified defense of the Israeli Government, the disdain for the Palestinians, putting fulfillment of supposed prophecy ahead of justice.

      The “disrespect” to Pence was the direct, and predictable, result of Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem. I’m shocked and saddened that you actually applaud stopping funding for the Palestinians, whose conditions are already dire. I think even Trump only intended this as a threat, though actually it was a knee-jerk reaction to his wounded pride.

      Expert opinion and experience show that threats to suspend aid are ineffective. Also, this is actually the last thing the Israelis need, since they will have to make up the shortfall, to save the Palestinians from starving.

    • its 1934, you and your friends are in Munich enjoying Oktoberfest…. Yeah he’s obnoxious, rude, offensive. I look at the amazing job he’s doing! We Germans have plenty of food, unemployment is near zero. The Autobahn is a world wonder. He’s tamed inflation. Beer flows like water. He’s God’s gift to Germany. My pastor sings his praises from the pulpit! Our Catholic friends wish him happy birthday during mass! Who are these complainers??? These communists?? Jews?? Homosexuals??? They hate Germany!! They’re false Germans!!!
      10 years later you and most of your friends are dead or hoping to join the dead.

      • Comparing Trump to Hitler is so absurd and reveals such ignorance! If you don’t understand it just imagine someone comparing Sanders to Estaline.

        • @ATP has provided us with a wonderful example of how the grooming process happens and is able to take a foothold.

          When we’ve SEEN the efforts to categorize Latinos as murderous gang members, Blacks as disrespectful, low-lifes, deserving of death at the hands of the government, and Muslims as the actual biggest terrorist threat (eye roll- not even close to accurate) to the lives of “Americans”, and how many CHRISTIANS even, buy it hook-line & sinker……. and then the straw-man cliche, “How dare you compare my guy to Hitler” (without any refute of actual events or actions)

          ……..The question is not how much like Nazi Germany we are, it’s which unfortunate group we’ll be provided with enough of a justification to all turn on and begin exterminating for a better America. I suppose we’ll know, by the “someone” DT is able to go and “shoot” without losing the support of his “voters”.

        • Unless you’re an elementary school dropout, I would suggest you start paying attention in your classes. They will cover this little-known part of history again in Middle School, and again in High School.

          Go back and read again: “its 1934, you and your friends are in Munich…” Perhaps you should try Googling that time and place for a little bit of context.

        • It’s no longer 1934 either. Hitler killed homosexuals as easily as Jews, so yes, at that time, LGBTQ people were claimed to “hate Germany” as a way of justifying killing them.

        • In 1934, you would not hate Germany, even if you were German, but Germany would hate YOU because you would not be a straight, Christian by blood, “true” German according to the government.

      • Trump the dictator born on American soil….was an immigrant from Germany. His grandfather came here to escape serving in war and probably taught his son and grandson to avoid the draft. Now Trump is a wealthy American who seems to have no connection to American ideals other than the outward signs of patriotism: the flag, wearing the colors, pretending love of country when the only love he has shown is toward those who look like him! The camps will follow……

    • Many Evangelicals see Trump’s reckless Jerusalem decision as fulfillment of prophecy helping Jesus to return. In reality, he is harming Arab Christians, including my family.

      • Mike,
        Christ himself stated that following him would guarantee persecution from the world. That’s not Trump’s fault to any degree. That’s the world lashing out at anyone who validates God. Satan can’t do anything to God so the next best thing he can do is to hurt those closest to God himself.
        Luke 6:22 states:

        Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.

        • “Christ himself stated that following him would guarantee persecution from the world. ”
          Lucky it is, then, that Trump hasn’t ever had to worry about that.

        • So these hating men are not responsible for their actions? Because of this verse from Luke they are spared from criticism from us? No, what Jesus is saying is that it will happen because he knows those in power often act to keep their power and go out of their way to oppress others that speak the truth. This phrase does not, however, give the powerful an out. We still are called to speak the truth to power no matter what happens for the benefit of those yet to come.

    • He has NO right to determine what the capital of any country should be & what the Zionists are doing to the Palestinians is genocide. He’s creating more enemies, he’s “normalized” blatant lies.
      How can yo condone genocide?

    • So Brass Balls makes him competent enough to be our Commander In Chief? Lots of people thought the same about Adolf Hitler, even though they also thought he was one of the most evil men ever to walk the Earth. After all, he tried to make the small Euopean country of Germany into the most powerful nation on the planet. That takes Brass Balls!
      And about Isreal/Palestine. Didn’t Trump say he was going to achieve peace between the two? What he has done is GUARANTEE that peace can never happen under his administration. Face it, you like Dictators and you hate Arabs. Not very “Christian” of you.

      • Actually it sounds like EXACTLY the thing America’s so called “God fearing” presidential followers would say…”we hate anyone who isn’t white, we also love dictators” But REAL Christians will tell you that Trump is a monster. These so called “Christians” following Trump are sick, sad, individuals.

    • I wouldn’t exactly call those “accomplishments”, unless we’re talking about the accomplishments of making things worse…

    • You do realize that recognizing Jerusalem as the capital was an incredibly stupid move right? It inflamed tensions in the Middle East for no reason. The Israelis and Palestinians were to come to terms with the status of Jerusalem and it was not our place to recognize it as Israel’s capital. You also displayed your bigotry by your comment that you are happy that aid for the Palestinians is gone. Yeah, let them suffer right? They’re only Arabs. (How “Christian” of you!)

      • @Rick, I would say that it, unfortunately, was not, for no reason. Donald Trump is the same Donald Trump he always was. If your ultimate goal is to solidify the wealth and power of your family, and establish your name among other global influencers for generations to come, and all you need to do so is the backing of a collective from within a nation that possesses enough power to assist in that effort, you do things that are necessary to placate some of the things that the collective has decided (really the collective influencers have decided) are their main issues. Churches are HUGE influencers in America, (sadly, moreso than the Bible, it seems) so it’s simply a smart power play on his part to ensure from the beginning that he had the support of leadership from some of the highest earning congregations.

    • Brass balls are not for presidents. Brass balls are for bullies and for people who have nothing to lose. A president has to have patience, reason, balance, maturity, intelligence and some modicum of how the government works. *45 is sorely lacking. And he is not only standing up to those who hate “us” — and I use that term loosely — he has divided this country in to “us” and “them.” You may be on the “us” side — but I am mostly likely on the “them” side. He is a first generation American born on this soil. My ancestors have been here for centuries, though many came involuntarily. BTW, brass balls without an even temperament could equal nuclear war.

      • Dear Sherry Edwards:

        ‘But’ is a ‘discounting term;’ the only thing which matters is whatever follows the ‘but.’

        Blessings!

    • His “accomplishments” are all evil. He’s all about self-aggrandizing and making money for himself, his greedy family and fellow 1%ers. He’s legitimized racism and sexism. He’s given tax breaks to billionaires, deprived the sick of healthcare, let down the Dreamers, said Nazis were fine people. He is undoing policies that helped the environment just so that corporations can make more money. He lies incessantly. He is an admitted sexual harasser who’s been unfaithful to all 3 of his wives. I don’t think there is a meaner person on earth, nor a worse role model for our kids. He is a cancer on this country, and the world. And I cannot respect anyone who voted for him.

      • I just want to say one thing, the Dotard is NOT and never will be a 1%, it isn’t possible, all the money he can steal with phony invoices for the WALL and offshore accounts to warehouse it, will never have him rubbing shoulders with THEM. He is a tool. That is all he is. And like any garden tool, he will be shoved to the back darkest part of the shed when they are done with him.

    • Did you just “Yeahbut” a justification of this president? No way. He isn’t flawed, he is toxic. He isn’t brash, he’s race baiting, misogynist, bordering on fascist. He doesn’t have ‘brass balls,’ he is CLUELESS about the impact of his snap decisions and worse, doesn’t care.

    • Do you also approve of the Israeli government pointing machine guns at the heads of children? Do you also believe that Palestinians should be dehumanized, imprisoned and exterminated? You have taken this beautiful man’s post and have inserted your Zionist propaganda against the poor and oppressed Palestinians, who, btw, are also God’s beloved children. I dare you to look up pictures of the tortured and abused and imprisoned little children in Israeli Military prisons. It is disgrace to humanity and to God. Trump likes the Israel because they are the right color, nothing else.

      • and because they will name a train station after him. I have NO doubt he was offered that little bright bauble before he made this massive unjustification. He doesn’t have BRASS BALLS. He has CRASS BALLS. He is a coward and an ignorant bully. Now attacking our OWN government, name calling, putting down John McCain because he was CAUGHT, but praising the likes of Joe Arpaio, Nunes is a hero? and Putin is a good ol’ boy. Because WE’RE KILLERS ALSO…? This from this potus?

    • Congratulations Risa – you just outed yourself as “For Sale.” The cost of those two things for you is a wholesale lack of moral integrity, the endorsement of racism, xenophobia, and the selling out of Middle America atop what’s headed for a Constitutional Crisis.

    • “Brass balls” ….the man baby that has a hissy fit if people don’t praise him daily or criticise him but calls everyone else a snowflake?!
      I can’t think of anyone with less brass balls…

    • What is being done to Palestinians in Israel is apartheid. It is wrong and the God I worship–God, Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, whatever the name by which you know him–does not condone this treatment of his children. Palestinians are his children, his creation, too. The infinite God of the universe, in his omnipotence, knew his children in their diversity would discover and craft different ways to know him, relate to him and worship him. He delights in the Jew, the Christian, the Muslim, the Buddhist, all the faiths and, yes, I believe even the atheist. We’re all just trying to find our own way to engage with the Divine. Yet some faiths feel entitled to persecute those who believe differently. This is what’s happening in Israel, and many other places in the world. God is not pleased. I’m certain he does not condone the reckless actions of 45.

      • In 2016 I have hoped for a peacemaker that would speak the truth to both Israel and the Palestinians to start them on the road to peace. Violence begets more violence. We must have negotiations and compromises between the two parties. Don’t tell me it can’t work! Tell me how many Egyptian-Israeli wars there have been since President Carter? Zero. His brokering peace between Israel and Egypt has proven the test of time and I believe the same can be done for Israel and the Palestinian State.

        Unfortunately we elected a warmonger with a bellicose foreign policy of “America first”, meaning “Only America”, guaranteed to embolden our enemies and alienate the rest. There shall be no peace in our time.

    • Do you like his love and support of white supremacists? Do you like his dismantling of all legislation to protect our environment and planet earth? Do you like his hatred of women, immigrants, black athletes and lgbt people? Do you like his fake Christianity because of course real Christians don’t cheat on their wives who have just given birth with porn actresses? Do you like that he has played golf (at tax payers expense while lining his own pockets @ his own resorts) more in one year than the previous president played golf in eight years? Brass balls? He’s an inept buffoon who never reads, and you are choosing blindness over the safety and security of our country.

    • You notice how the supporters of Mr. Trump as well as himself argue “how they do not believe in political correctness,” but just say one thing that is critical and politically correct, and wow. Off the rails.

    • When you say he stands up against those who hate us: who is the “us” you mean? Why has he taken white supremacist groups off the terror watch list and cancelled grants to groups that worke against hate? Why did he call Klan and neoNazis, groups who have nothing but hatred for Trump’s own daughter and grandkids, “fine people?”

    • no accomplishments.
      none.
      unless you think violating conflict of interest laws, and the emoluments clause, and elevating unqualified people to the courts and the Cabinet are “accomplichments”?
      Or how about destroying relations with allies?
      Praising adversary countries and authoritarian leaders while denigrating American intelligence and law enforcement?

      no. not one single actual accomplishment and he has sown the seeds of distrust around the world.

    • They said the same things about Hitler, before he begin dragging Jews out of their homes and sending them to concentration; while people, like you, did nothing to support, or stop them!! Your laissez-faire attitude, now, confirms you’ll do the same, when it happens in America!!

    • One policy excuses everything else? And a wreckless policy that destabilizes the region andcwas offered without gaining a single thing. Unless…
      Regardless: Friends don’t let friends oppress indigenous people.

    • Risa,
      He says stupid and mean things that offend good people and pump up the bad among us. So where does that put you? He has done nothing himself because he doesn’t understand policy. He never reads. But I know people like you don’t read real news either, so I’m telling you, that Democrats are being elected left and right, and dems are highly motivated, because the words and actions of this man so sicken and disgust people like us, who happen to hold an elected official to a higher level of decency. We intend to either kick this jerk out of office or at least neutralize his power.

    • BUT…did you say “BUT..” RISA ROBERTS..
      REALLY?..Are you going to even try to defend this egotistical, sociopath and narcissist of a human being? (though, many of us doubt he is human…more like the Anti-Christ)
      He is the epitomy of HATE…He lives and breathes HATE…NO BUTs about it…NO So-called “accomplishments”..nor set of tiny “brass balls”, could ever make the “Majority of Americans” be swayed to think he has one ounce of decency in his racist and bigoted soul!! If you are fooled by #45, one can only hope that someday you see the light! He IS Darkness!!
      He will bring this great nation to its knees, if we do not rise to the occasion, and defeat him! One can only hope that you someday see him for what he is, and cross to the other side!!

    • If you are judging him strictly based upon what YOU like and what is best for you, then your determination is irrelevant to anybody but you. But if you want to judge him based upon what is best for the country, it boggles my mind that anybody could think that is inexperience, immaturity, ignorance, lack of impulse control, hostility, and narcissism and lack of empathy could be good for our country. We are losing tourism dollars, we have lost our global standing. We refuse to stand up to Russia and follow through with sanctions. It boggles my mind how people like yourself, who I assume believe yourself to be very intelligent, can not see right through this man in regard to what a lying con artist he is. There is strong reason to believe he is a lying traitor. But he just keeps getting a pass because he happens to be a loud mouthed ass? Not from me he doesn’t. I know exactly who he is.

  2. Pastor John – first, let me explain I am a Wiccan so it may seem odd that your columns are one of the first things I read in the morning. But you give me hope. And you have every right to be angry. I have been furious since that day of the golden escalator and beyond rage since November 8 2016 as we put a vile creature into the highest office in the land because of hate. Anger is all that is keeping us from being Berlin in 1933. Yell and scream. We ARE listening

    • Yes, I agree! Ms Davis, Pastor John, we can not scream loudly ENOUGH! We MUST also whisper, to those who do not want to hear the truth. We must not stop. We must be their conscience. They lost theirs somewhere along the way. I saw it written, I think by Bill Maher, they are like the divorced man who kills his family and than himself, and burns down the house, because if he can’t have them? Nobody can. The people who are toxic to this country, to children, to those weaker, are frightened. They are not brave, They don’t believe in free thought, they would rather allow a stronger personality, good or bad, to tell them what to think. We need to educate, expand their awareness, and see there is a bountiful world enough for all of us, if we live in simplicity, and watch out for our fellow souls traveling this path with us.

  3. It’s just that you guys are so obsessed you seem to have lost your minds.

    You fail to see why Trump is being supported and invent your own reasons.

    And you are as blind as can be to the good changes that are benefiting everyone.

    Besides that, preaching hatred of Trump day in and day out is not very becoming to someone who takes the title of “pastor” and who should be inclusive instead of exclusive.

      • Agree, John. For those of us called to be followers of Jesus, we have the right and responsibility to speak up and out about these injustices. I don’t profess to know answers to all things, but when we allow evil to present it’s ugly head and don’t respond, then we have sinned. As for me and my household, we will follow the Lord. We will speak up for those who are weak and weary and have no advocates. Justice will prevail.

        • The biggest murderer of unborn babies is God. Between 30% and 50% of all fertilisations result in spontaneous abortions (the correct term for the misnomer “miscarriages”).

          • What is your point, here? Because miscarraige is a thing we shouldn’t have a problem killing unborn children? Would you use the fact that adults die of natural causes everyday to justify homicide? Ultimately God kills us all, I guess, so why have laws at all?

          • God allows everyone to die.

            That doesn’t mean because there are spontaneous abortions we can justify abortion by abortion any more than we can justify electrocuting someone because others are struck by lightening.

        • really? You know this because? Believe it or not, before men decided they owned women, and we became chattle, which rhymes with cattle, women were adept at inducing “miscarriages”. There are herbs, tea, and other methods that are very effective. You have no right to judge a woman on a personal decision like that. Further, if your only concern IS the birth of a fetus? But than it becomes a “burden” until it hits 18 and can either be cannon fodder, or get a factory job and pay taxes, you are NOT the solution, but a major part of the problem.

        • My mother’s life was saved by a late-term abortion. I was born three years later. Which means I owe my entire existence to the fact of my mother’s abortion.

          Incidentally, the aborted fetus was hydrocephalic, which means that it had a grossly oversized head (the size of a cantaloupe) and NO BRAIN. The head was filled with cerebro-spinal fluid. It would have killed my mother on the delivery table.

          So, Wild Bill, why don’t YOU give ME a break about your moral perch?

      • JP:

        Jesus railed against the Synagogue / Jewish Temple Leaders because of their stubborn unbelief not because of their Govt policies. (which they didn’t have any).

        He barely mentioned the rulers of the various Governments in his time, or not at all; Augustus Caesar, Tiberius, Herod the Great, Salome I, Herod Archelaus, Quirinius, Philip the Tetrarch, Pontius Pilate, Herod Antipas.

        Trump is the duly elected President of the United States, which is a Constitutional Republic [Note: He is not a Jewish Temple Leader, or a Christian Leader. ]

        If you want our Country to become a Christian Theocracy, I’d be ok with that.

        You can’t change things from the top down, you have to start at the individual. Evangelizing as many to Christ is always going to be the most effective way to bring good changes to our Govt. because Christians vote their conscience.

        Will you bring more to Jesus?

        [Hmm, I guess it is odd that born-again Christians vote Conservative /Republican. Go figure!]

        • Leslie,

          The Old Testament prophets railed against the oppression and corruption of the rulers of Israel and Judah. Often, an evil ruler could corrupt a nation. Why else are we called to pray for our leaders?

          A Christian Theocracy would be disastrous for Christianity and the country, and violates the First Amendment to the very Constitution you invoke to justify Trump. [See Christian Reconstructionism or ‘The Handmaid’sTale’, if you want to see what Theocracy looks like.] Also, which variety of Christianity would you put in charge of the USA? Who would be second-class citizens besides Muslims, Jews, Hindus, atheists? What about Catholics, Quaker’s, Amish, Mormons, any Christians who don’t identify as Evangelical or Fundamentalist?

      • Not that you need any particular endorsement from me but thank you for your stance and your unabashed comments. I am a black, urban, female, married, Christian and social justice advocate who lives my beliefs through my work and service…all of it. For the folks who seem to believe no one is reading or listening to you…that’s a lie. Everything you have printed in this article is SPOT ON from the perspective I see fighting for the rights of the poor, the uneducated, the apathetic and the outcast. The Jesus I love stands with us and expects us to challenge the status quo- especially that which isolates and persecutes “the least of these” whom so many of us have forgotten are the real victims here. So I say preach on and don’t stop. I decided a long time ago to stop talking, and be about my Father’s business.

        For all your critics- I would love to see responses that talk about how they each are working in communities of need to make their lives better and more self-sufficient. We don’t have time to limit our shock and blame to talk. I want to see more posts about action. I am happy to offer mine should I be challenged. God Bless!

    • I hear no preaching of hatred. I hear only, ‘let’s try to care for everyone in our country’. Let’s stop judging each other, and let’s respect the free speech of everyone. We all think differently, and that’s ok.

    • *45 is supported by those who want to turn back the clock to a time when many Americans were even “less equal” than they are now. They think they’ll get their good-paying jobs back — the ones that were shipped overseas long before 2008 — the ones in factories the doors of which were shuttered in the name of saving money so that *45’s financial supporters, the only ones that count for him, could get richer by using cheap foreign labor.

      I pray for *45 daily. I pray that he will be well, that he will have a change of heart, and still, that his term will be abbreviated to the extreme, that his evil deeds will come to the light sooner rather than later, that every limb on his traitorous family tree, along with him, will be brought to justice, that all of the vile things he has done to the detriment of the least of these will be made right, and his victims, citizens of this country, will be able to recover. I pray that every man who stretches his hand toward *45 to pray for him will open blinded eyes and see what evil they support. I pray for the souls of their congregation, that they will not get sucked in by proclamations of *45 being “God ordained.” I pray that justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream. This is my prayer, which includes thanks to Jesus, who was not a wimp. Christians are docile creatures who are supposed to roll over and play dead or be a doormat.

      • You pray for a number? You can’t even say his name when you pray to God to help him?

        I pray that President Trump is reelected. He’s doing a fantastic job.

      • Andrea Hoxie said:

        that his evil deeds will come to the light sooner rather than later, that every limb on his traitorous family tree, along with him, will be brought to justice, that all of the vile things he has done to the detriment of the least of these will be made right, and his victims, citizens of this country, will be able to recover.

        Funny, I pray that about Hillary.

    • What good changes? Lying is acceptable? Don’t have to take responsibility for for your own actions, all you you have to do is blame others? Spewing hatred, disrespect and falsehoods? Belittling women and people of color? You really want to be a nation of these? My America is better than that.

  4. Well John , Friends , and all others
    Since we all have feelings and emotions and we all have a view pt.
    Let us all come to the table , set out attitudes aside and look at the facts , not just one side
    Liberal agendas only have one goal , Feee, Give aways, one sided
    The liberals teach that you should be given, or Take , or get for your self that’s what YOU Quote Deserve.
    and when confronted with truth , They Break, Destroy, figure out how to get their own way.
    Like spoiled , selfish, self centered people with view s of :
    NOT my way or the highway
    The minority is not The Majority , no matter how many lies are told or how you take the picture . or how you slant the news
    Yes , Wrong News , Wrong reporting , 1/2 Truths to sell lies and agendas
    If it was about Truth you would strictly put out only what was Truth
    keeping all view pt in the stage .
    But lairs lie well , and thieves Steal , Character is something trained into people , rather it is wrong or right .
    people with out God are Racist and not accountable
    People with out accountability will always seek out their pleasure, own agenda, own goals , self centered , selfish
    that s a fact
    Proverbs gives so many example s of Godly vs Godless People and rewards or consequences of this and every action
    God is Forgiveness, Humility, servitude, the best for others , the best for our nation ,
    But like many of your view points , the world chooses selfishness
    the world is on a trip to nowhere and lots of the lost are leading them there.
    where do you stand ?,
    who do you serve?,
    what is your purpose ?

    • you don’t know me, my family, my friends. Yet you’ve decided I take, take, take, lie, lie, lie. You bear false witness against me and do it shamelessly. What a disappointment. As my Irish Catholic family would say Christ weeps…

    • Christopher Freeman:
      That’s pretty incoherent, but you are saying that those who wish to house, clothe, feed their neighbor & think things like skin color, gender & how they worship should not impact this….are selfish??

      How is it you think people will be drawn to Jesus? You expect them to live godly lives according to Proverbs first, before they are considered human & equal? Why, then, would the need to repent?
      Whatever happened to “just as I am”? Or “ALL have sinned & fallen short of the glory of God”.

      NONE of us is worthy, no sin “worse” than another.
      I read Pharisee-ism in your spiel , and from how Jesus spoke to them I’d be much more afraid of being a pharisee than being a sinner.

    • “people with out God are Racist and not accountable”

      Whoa. Full stop. How can you say this? Do you have any links to evidence? I’m atheist, and every atheist I know is quite the opposite of the nasty stereotype you put out there. We actually are able to determine right from wrong without consulting a really old book.

      Atheists score higher on tests of religious aptitude than the believers, and all others. Here’s some information for you:
      http://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey/

      • One of my favorite Twilight Zones.

        That’s one thing I like about you Charles–that you’re not out-of-your-mind 24/7 crazy-obsessed with Trump hatred. You’re capable of thinking about other things. Sometimes you seem almost normal, unlike your brethren here who have totally lost it. Maybe there is hope for you.

    • It is certainly not true that liberals have only the goal of take, take, take. Liberals are the ones who want to give, and help others who are less fortunate. Ridiculous comment.

      • Then why are liberals notoriously proven to be much less generous than conservatives in their charitable giving, especially politicians (until they decide to run for office)? Even the mainstream media has reported that a number of times!!!

    • Said like someone who has no idea what being liberal means. You set up a straw man and knock it down like you’ve accomplished a thing, when in reality you miss the whole point. To be a person of faith is to believe in helping the poor, loving the unloved, caring for the sick, aged, and infirm. By their fruits you will know them. The agenda of
      Trump’s conservatism is now the agenda of hate and exclusionism and it’s one of the least faith-based viewpoints I can imagine. Enjoy your dance with Mammon, sir.

    • Christopher Freeman. wow. Where to begin? At the beginning, I suppose. You are sadly confused about the meaning of “liberal” so let me share an exceptional viewpoint. I can not claim to have written this, but I CAN CLAIM THAT IT SPEAKS TO ME FROM THE HEART.
      and yes, a kinder, gentler world. WE are capable of being better, better at everything. THIS POST? Please, tell me, what is wrong with this? Please actually THINK before you type, and tell me WHY you think this is so horrible. Why ? What are you afraid of?
      **********************************************************************
      The original author is LORI GALLAGHER WITT.This explains my views in an even tempered, logical way.
      Let’s break it down, shall we? Because quite frankly, I’m getting a little tired of being told what I believe and what I stand for. Spoiler alert: Not every Liberal is the same, though the majority of Liberals I know think along roughly these same lines:
      “1. I believe a country should take care of its weakest members. A country cannot call itself civilized when its children, disabled, sick, and elderly are neglected. Period.
      2. I believe healthcare is a right, not a privilege. Somehow that’s interpreted as “I believe Obamacare is the end-all, be-all.” This is not the case. I’m fully aware that the ACA has problems, that a national healthcare system would require everyone to chip in, and that it’s impossible to create one that is devoid of flaws, but I have yet to hear an argument against it that makes “let people die because they can’t afford healthcare” a better alternative. I believe healthcare should be far cheaper than it is, and that everyone should have access to it. And no, I’m not opposed to paying higher taxes in the name of making that happen.
      3. I believe education should be affordable and accessible to everyone. It doesn’t necessarily have to be free (though it works in other countries so I’m mystified as to why it can’t work in the US), but at the end of the day, there is no excuse for students graduating college saddled with five- or six-figure debt.
      4. I don’t believe your money should be taken from you and given to people who don’t want to work. I have literally never encountered anyone who believes this. Ever. I just have a massive moral problem with a society where a handful of people can possess the majority of the wealth while there are people literally starving to death, freezing to death, or dying because they can’t afford to go to the doctor. Fair wages, lower housing costs, universal healthcare, affordable education, and the wealthy actually paying their share would go a long way toward alleviating this. Somehow believing that makes me a communist.
      5. I don’t throw around “I’m willing to pay higher taxes” lightly. I’m retired and on a fixed income, but I still pay taxes. If I’m suggesting something that involves paying more, well, it’s because I’m fine with paying my share as long as it’s actually going to something besides lining corporate pockets or bombing other countries while Americans die without healthcare.
      6. I believe companies should be required to pay their employees a decent, livable wage. Somehow this is always interpreted as me wanting burger flippers to be able to afford a penthouse apartment and a Mercedes. What it actually means is that no one should have to work three full-time jobs just to keep their head above water. Restaurant servers should not have to rely on tips, multibillion dollar companies should not have employees on food stamps, workers shouldn’t have to work themselves into the ground just to barely make ends meet, and minimum wage should be enough for someone to work 40 hours and live.
      7. I am not anti-Christian. I have no desire to stop Christians from being Christians, to close churches, to ban the Bible, to forbid prayer in school, etc. (BTW, prayer in school is NOT illegal; *compulsory* prayer in school is – and should be – illegal). All I ask is that Christians recognize *my* right to live according to *my* beliefs. When I get pissed off that a politician is trying to legislate Scripture into law, I’m not “offended by Christianity” — I’m offended that you’re trying to force me to live by your religion’s rules. You know how you get really upset at the thought of Muslims imposing Sharia law on you? That’s how I feel about Christians trying to impose biblical law on me. Be a Christian. Do your thing. Just don’t force it on me or mine.
      8. I don’t believe LGBT people should have more rights than you. I just believe they should have the *same* rights as you.
      9. I don’t believe illegal immigrants should come to America and have the world at their feet, especially since THIS ISN’T WHAT THEY DO (spoiler: undocumented immigrants are ineligible for all those programs they’re supposed to be abusing, and if they’re “stealing” your job it’s because your employer is hiring illegally). I’m not opposed to deporting people who are here illegally, but I believe there are far more humane ways to handle undocumented immigration than our current practices (i.e., detaining children, splitting up families, ending DACA, etc).
      10. I don’t believe the government should regulate everything, but since greed is such a driving force in our country, we NEED regulations to prevent cut corners, environmental destruction, tainted food/water, unsafe materials in consumable goods or medical equipment, etc. It’s not that I want the government’s hands in everything — I just don’t trust people trying to make money to ensure that their products/practices/etc. are actually SAFE. Is the government devoid of shadiness? Of course not. But with those regulations in place, consumers have recourse if they’re harmed and companies are liable for medical bills, environmental cleanup, etc. Just kind of seems like common sense when the alternative to government regulation is letting companies bring their bottom line into the equation.
      11. I believe our current administration is fascist. Not because I dislike them or because I can’t get over an election, but because I’ve spent too many years reading and learning about the Third Reich to miss the similarities. Not because any administration I dislike must be Nazis, but because things are actually mirroring authoritarian and fascist regimes of the past.
      12. I believe the systemic racism and misogyny in our society is much worse than many people think, and desperately needs to be addressed. Which means those with privilege — white, straight, male, economic, etc. — need to start listening, even if you don’t like what you’re hearing, so we can start dismantling everything that’s causing people to be marginalized.
      13. I am not interested in coming after your blessed guns, nor is anyone serving in government. What I am interested in is sensible policies, including background checks, that just MIGHT save one person’s, perhaps a toddler’s, life by the hand of someone who should not have a gun. (Got another opinion? Put it on your page, not mine).
      14. I believe in so-called political correctness. I prefer to think it’s social politeness. If call you Chuck and you say you prefer to be called Charles I’ll call you Charles. It’s the polite thing to do. Not because everyone is a delicate snowflake, but because as Maya Angelou put it, when we know better, we do better. When someone tells you that a term or phrase is more accurate/less hurtful than the one you’re using, you now know better. So why not do better? How does it hurt you to NOT hurt another person?
      15. I believe in funding sustainable energy, including offering education to people currently working in coal or oil so they can change jobs. There are too many sustainable options available for us to continue with coal and oil. Sorry, billionaires. Maybe try investing in something else.
      16. I believe that women should not be treated as a separate class of human. They should be paid the same as men who do the same work, should have the same rights as men and should be free from abuse. Why on earth shouldn’t they be?
      I think that about covers it. Bottom line is that I’m a liberal because I think we should take care of each other. That doesn’t mean you should work 80 hours a week so your lazy neighbor can get all your money. It just means I don’t believe there is any scenario in which preventable suffering is an acceptable outcome as long as money is saved.”
      YES. I AM A PROUD, FIERCE LIBERAL. I WANT THE SAME FOR YOU, MR FREEMAN, AS I WANT FOR EVERYONE ELSE. NO MORE. NO LESS. AND I HAVE EARNED EVERYTHING I EVER HAD. NOBODY EVER GAVE ME ANYTHING.

    • “Let us all come to the table , set out attitudes aside and look at the facts , not just one side
      Liberal agendas only have one goal , Feee, Give aways, one sided”

      I literally laughed out loud.

  5. Nothing left to say but Amen, Amen and another Amen. Thanks for all your words. Peace and Love and please continue the fight.

  6. “When President Clinton was in office and he was exposed for some of the sexual misconduct that was found, I took a lot of heat for a comment I made about him. At one conference, I said that I felt that God might be more upset with the Church for not praying for leaders and those in office, than He is with this man and his sin. You would have thought I had just cursed! I went on to say that if the Church doesn’t pray, then God can’t do some things. Scripture is filled with examples of God moving on the heart of even pagan kings that openly worshipped idols. They were not Jewish. They had no atonement, yet He used them. So, no matter what people think of President Trump, they need to be praying for him.

    “From King Cyrus of Persia: The Lord, the God of heaven, gave all the kingdoms on earth to me. And he chose me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in the country of Judah. If any of God’s people are living among you, I pray God will bless them. You must let them go to Jerusalem in the country of Judah. You must let them go build the Temple of the Lord, the God of Israel, the God who is in Jerusalem.” (Ezra 1:2-3; ERV)

    Give Him 15 minutes in prayer:

    -God can use anyone for His purposes. He raises up and brings down. Worship Him for His wisdom and mercy.
    -Repent if you pray “politically”. Is your political favorite in office? Will you only pray for those in the political party you support? You know who you are!
    -Pray for President Trump and Vice-President Pence, regardless of whether you voted for them or not. Pray for protection over them and their families.
    -Pray that they would continue to make righteous decisions.
    -Specifically pray for someone in office that you do not agree with politically. Remember that they are someone God loves. Ask Holy Spirit how to pray for them.

    A prayer you can pray:

    Father, I worship You in Your wisdom, majesty, and mercy! We can trust You to set the rudder on the political ship of this nation. You can guide the hearts of elected officials for Your purposes. Forgive me for refusing to pray for those I have not politically agreed with. Wow! That’s not what Your Word says I’m to do. I humble myself and pray for President Trump and Vice-President Pence. Protect them and their families from all harm. Speak to them Your righteous decisions and give them the grace to lead America in this tumultuous time. (Specifically pray for someone in office that you do not agree with politically. Ask Holy Spirit to help you.) Jesus, You love them and You died on the cross for them, and I would love to see them spend forever with You. Amen.

    Today’s decree:

    I decree that political prayers will stop and the Church will pray according to the Word and the heart of God for America.”

    – Dutch Sheets

      • Leslie, You just contradicted yourself: you said “you can’t change things from the top down: you have to start with the individual.”

    • What of those who are not Christian… who don’t sustain your spiritual views??
      Prayers are beautiful platitudes but they’re wasted on vile people like #45.
      Try praying for a stronger backbone…. so you can stand up and resist like so many of us.
      THAT is GOD’S will…in my book.

    • Good grief. God has already sent his minister to deal with Trump. His name is Robert Mueller:

      “For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.” (Romans 13:4)

      • “Don’t pick on people, jump on their failures, criticize their faults—unless, of course, you want the same treatment. That critical spirit has a way of boomeranging. It’s easy to see a smudge on your neighbor’s face and be oblivious to the ugly sneer on your own. Do you have the nerve to say, ‘Let me wash your face for you,’ when your own face is distorted by contempt? It’s this whole traveling road-show mentality all over again, playing a holier-than-thou part instead of just living your part. Wipe that ugly sneer off your own face, and you might be fit to offer a washcloth to your neighbor. ”
        Matthew 7:1‭-‬5 MSG
        https://bible.com/bible/97/mat.7.1-5.MSG

        • Just to reiterate what God is doing right now in Washington, D.C.—because I do not think you heard me the first time:

          God has already sent his minister to deal with Trump. His name is Robert Mueller:

          “For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.” (Romans 13:4)

          Trump and his followers face two judgements:

          1) One soon here on Earth.

          2) One later at an unknown time.

          You will recall the framed saying on the Warden’s office wall in “Shawshank Redemption.” don’t you? Trump is about to face it:

          “His judgement cometh soon—and that right quick.”

    • Have you ever considered that people like John and others that lift their voices in protest against the injustices and hatred in our country are God’s answer to all of your prayers? Feel free to join us

  7. Janosch Pavlovitzen has hit another home run with this main post.

    I am inclined to seriously think that the so-called “Christians” who are giving John P. the old distancing and silent treatment over Trump may collectively be one of the “Seven Wonders of the Modern World” because any intelligent and sane person is certainly inclined to “wonder” where in the heck these people’s brains and scruples have retired to?????

    John. Do not give them a second thought. With friends like those, who needs enemies? You can forgive them for being so stupid and heartless—but sometimes—as Jesus said of the Scribes and Pharisees, even a man coming back from the dead would not wake up many of these people. You cannot change them. Neither can anyone else except for God. All you can reasonably do is carry on with your love for Jesus and your work for him—and move on past these people. Just move past them.

    You left out an important item on your list in the above post—all the massive Trump lies. One of the fact-checking organizations recently did a media-based tally and discovered that Trump has told at least 2,000 different lies in the media since his inauguration—and worst of all—he repeats these lies. He apparently thinks that if he tells the same lies over and over again, people will come to see them as the truth.

    You know what the Bible says, and it applies well to Mr. Trump:

    “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44)

    • As I already warned you, your dreams about Trump being removed are about to turn into a nightmare. The collusion was on your side and probably with the blessing of Saint Barak. But all is fair if you think you’re keeping the devil out of office I suppose…

      The memo is just the beginning.

      • The memo is a figleaf for Trump believers to use in justifying their rejection of the facts.
        Why didn’t Nunes answer when asked if it had been cooked up with White House input? Because he knew it had?

  8. This is only your third post I’ve read. I was a bit surprised at the venom of some comments of the first post I read. But I have to say that just because people crawled into their shells to lick their wounds (sorry, mixed metaphors) for some months in the face of this stunner and consequent destruction doesn’t mean they didn’t care — just that it was too much, too much to take in, too much humiliation, too much devastation, too much deliberate dismantling of democracy and too many Americans who voted for that. Too much. And no power to stop it or change it. None. So outrage seemed superfluous and self-abusive. Despite our marches and meetings. In many ways it still does. Just as Silence won’t change anything, neither will Outrage. And what is happening is SO outrageous (and unexpected though I saw it coming) I cannot take it in, cannot wrap my head or heart around it. So withdraw, watch, wait, seems the only option. The Republicans have been appallingly unAmerican for a few decades now; this is just the logical conclusion; the question is whether the USA will survive as anything but a one-party autocratic empire of evil. Jury is out. I am following the advice of Geo Lakoff, who says, rightly, paraphrased, “that to which you give your attention and energy is that which is empowered.” That’s a version of “you go in the direction you are looking.” For me, I’m trying to figure out what that means in action. What or who can I be about lifting UP. How can I avoid giving Republicans more power. (Trump is a symptom, a useful idiot, not important in the long run.) Meanwhile I am thankful for your ongoing ability to be outraged and express it so well.

  9. John – You make the statement, “there are people apparently more concerned about the feelings of the bullies than about the very safety of those being bullied.” My guess is that they are not more concerned about the feelings of the bullies, They are concerned about their own feelings. They really don’t like you telling them that they have chosen the wrong side of the argument and the wrong side of history. In their hearts they know what you are saying is right. They just do not want to hear it. – especially from you. They always thought you were on the same side. After all you are a Christian. They always thought your Christianity and theirs were the same. Like it or not, in a little corner of their now hardened soul, they know what you are saying is right but their greed, their racism, their xenophobia, their anti-LGBTQ bias, and their disdain for The Constitution, the real rule of law, and the poor, far out weight the teachings of the Christian (or Jewish or Muslim, or Hindu, etc) faith they profess. They don’t like what you say, and they really don’t like your anger, or your tone of voice. You, and other people of conscience like you, are a constant reminder of the deal they have made with the devil. Their Faustian deal is very seductive, and self-congratulatory allowing them believe (because the want to) that their greed, their racism, their avarice, their xenophobia, their homophobia, their anti-Semitism, their bigotry, are the noblest, truest, most Christian, and patriotic of ideals. Their choice of the Trumpian Life over conscience and good offers them the chance they have always wanted – to feel good about their tribalism, triumphalism, racism, bigotry, and “us over themism.” And, like Faust’s deal with the devil, they have sacrificed their humanity for an ounce of gold and a week’s worth of power. And, the very last thing these people want is you, or anyone else, telling them that what they are doing is not only bad for the country, it is disastrous for them, their souls, their children, and their grandchildren.

    • Exactly. And Christian fundamentalist and conservative evangelical pastors are more than happy to supply them with churches that will bless all those evil things while they give mere lip service to the things of Jesus:

      Jesus said it best:

      “These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me” (Matthew 15:8).

    • What about agreeing with US Catholic Bishops that the unborn deserve legal protection?

      Why does your Jesus like it when abortionists suck the brains out of innocent babies but our Jesus hates it? Are you sure you aren’t the one who made an unholy alliance with the Devil?

      Besides that, the rest of your bs is the usual red herrings. Trump is doing things that are good for our economy and good for all. How racist is it that under Trump black unemployment is at a record low, much to the consternation of white liberals.

    • Very true, Frank. I believe that they come to their faith not to find answers to questions but to seek God’s authority for their opinions.

  10. Hillary lost. Get over it. Stop being babies and sore losers and throwing temper tantrums everyday. Direct your energies into a viable candidate. If you want the vote of real Christians try to find someone who has an ounce of compassion (instead of contempt) for the unborn.

    • Hillary won the election. The Electoral College installed Trump. And apparently John’s post about protesting the protesters is way above your pay grade. When you state, “real Christians”, that includes the Westboro Baptists and their warm, welcoming messages at the funerals of dead soldiers. It also includes Faith Healers, who annually pray their kids to death. Sucking up to those cults for a vote isn’t in our playbook, nor is accepting endorsements from the KKK, like Trump did.

      • Hillary lost the election, dude. She was playing to the same Electoral College which is how we elect presidents.

        Yes real Christians will vote to protect the unborn and phony Christians or at best ignorant Christians will vote to place their inconvenient lives in jeopardy.

      • No, Mark. Hillary did not win the election. She won a plurality of the popular vote. A stat that is as meaningless now as it was when we elected our very first president. Don’t blame the rules. Everyone knew them going in.

    • Oh my God, it’s not about Hillary. Many of us did not support her. I was prepared to protest her administration’s policies from day one if she’d been elected. The Manichaean if not A then B nonsense is killing our democracy. One does not have to support Clinton to see the damage that Trump is doing. Partisanship is willful blindness.

  11. Thank you, John. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I grew up part of my young life in an African-American church, where one of the leaders was fond of reminding us that our role as Christian people is “to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.”

    Keep on keepin’ on!

  12. You sound like him, And you will find no one that agrees with you more. I recently purchased both a bigger table and the grief Valley, you are a beautiful and eloquent writer.
    Your rantings remind me of Mr. Trump and I believe you will lose followers and your message will not reach as many.
    Look to Jesus as your example , this was not his style. Use your gift of writing in a less boorish way

    • He’s not “ranting”; he’s speaking uncomfortable truths. There is nothing “boorish” in posts such as these. Oh, and you’re tone policing. Do better.

    • KH: I agree, many here are turned off by the pastor’s nastiness, just like many DEMS are turned off by relentless Trump-Haters. Lots of moderate Democrats are becoming Independents as we speak. I guess I will say ‘Thank you Nancy & Chuck, keep up your pot-banging.’

      • I don’t understand leslie m. why are you not turned off by Trump’s nastiness.? Or, does he get mulligans every single day for his lies and bullying?

        I see people here every day saying God put Trump in charge. God has his finger in every pie. I see you arrogantly proclaim that liberals do not believe in personal responsibility. Which is it – God decides everything or is it up to us to do what we believe is God’s command’s to us. You guys give me whiplash.

        You say you live the Bible and you do not. Do we still stone people or kill them for adultery? No, if they are a conservative they get mulligans. Just one example to your ridiculousness. You pick and chose what parts of God’s commands you want to live by just like everyone else.

  13. Posted on Facebook today
    “Stop it! Don’t tell me to accept it because “it is what it is”! Don’t tell me I’m fighting a losing battle. Don’t tell me I am not being lady like with the posts I put on Facebook. In fact, don’t advise me at all because you’ll be the one who is fighting a losing battle. I will continue to fight against the Trump tyranny until it is over and that’s what every American should be doing! I will not bury my head in the sand!”

  14. Thank you. You nailed it. “If you’re more outraged at the tone of this President’s critics, than of his bigotry, dishonesty, misogyny, racism, and environmental recklessness—you’re enabling him, you’re normalizing him, you’re encouraging him.”
    I will recommit myself today to speaking out and defending vulnerable people in the name of Jesus.

    • Yeah, that gospel of Christianity is viewed by some as being quite offensive in how it promotes slavery, torture, genocide, and sex slavery. What if these vulnerable people don’t agree with your religious convictions?

      • Great, so you’re defending people against birth control, family planning and cancer screening for women and men, which comprise 97% of PP’s services. Do explain how that is “pro life”.
        We’ll wait.

      • Larry,

        The pastor at the last conservative church I attended preached several “pro-life” sermons, but even he discouraged members from picketing abortion clinics, reckoning it was counterproductive.

        I say,: ”If you’re serious about reducing the the causes of abortion, address the causes, not the symptom.” Otherwise, I might suspect you have an ulterior motive.

        • OK, one of the causes is that our culture devalues the unborn. What do you suggest I do to help the pro-aborts understand that it’s wrong to kill innocent babies? That they deserve to live. How can we get it across to the pro abortion crowd that it’s an injustice?

  15. “What’s revelatory about these people, is that they’re seemingly less bothered by anything happening in this country: the human rights atrocities, the legislative overreach, the unchecked cruelty, the prevalent hate crimes—than they are by the manner in which those of us who are bothered by it all, are saying so.”

    No, they’re bothered by lies and distortions like these.

    You’re bothered that they aren’t shamed by your distorted version of reality.

    Were you happy when Pelosi frowned and pouted as Trump announced all the good that is happening in our country?

    Can you at least be grateful that unemployment for those of non-white pigmentation is at historic lows? Or is that too some kind of racist plot and atrocity?

    Sour grapes as usual…

    • Larry, or is it Joe?

      “Lies and distortions?” I guess you haven’t been following the news lately, but by all means try to provide citations. Also, what about Mr. Six-Lies-A-Day ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.d05e79f049c2 )?

      And you’re offended by a little pout? I thought you were in the anti-political-correctness, I-can-be-obnoxious-if-I-like tribe.

      Trump takes credit for anything good that happens under his watch, whether he had anything to do with it or not, and even for some things that happened before his watch. He also doesn’t accept responsibility for anything bad that happens on his watch.

      • Actually, I’m not offended by what Pelosi did. I’m delighted her true colors were revealed. I’m happy she looked down her nose at all the $1,000 bonuses because of Trump economic policies and called them “crumbs.” It demonstrates how out of touch she is with the common man and it won’t serve her and the elitists well this fall.

        • Are you actually stating that a $1000.00 bonus is not a pittance compared to what corporations will be raking in? Do you think they are taking that money out of their profit margin? Even if and when people wages start rising, the cost of goods will increase. In their quest for more than they can all spend in 20 lifetimes, corporations are never going to cut their profit margins, they will only grow bigger.

          This actually demonstrates how out of touch the top almost 20% is with the way 80% of Americans live their life. The Trump family lives on another planet. They are living proof that an arrogant tone-deaf apple does not fall far from the tree.

          Yes, I know, Ivanka is beautiful, has big boobs and a great figure, and wears nice clothes, so she must be very smart and kind. She even talks so sweet, even when she uses wrong words. Ugh

          Peace Larry

          • Were you as bothered when Melania was sitting stone faced when everyone around her was standing and cheering?

            After watching Barack and Michelle, George W. and Laura, George H.W. and Barbara, Jimmy and Rosalyn, Reagan, and Nancy and even Bill and Hillary, the disconnect and 0 emotion between Trump and Melania is creepy and disturbing to have to watch. I feel sorry for Barron.

    • The downward trend in black unemployment numbers began even before President Obama took office. So sure, we’re glad that blacks have increasing employment opportunities, and we’re not about to give credit to Trump for any of it. If anything, his racist support for white supremacists ought to raise red flags for everyone.

    • The African American unemployment rate that is no longer at its lowest. It has jumped almost an entire percent.

      Why does Pelosi have to smile?

      • She did not look very cheerful while Trump was spouting some new lies in the SOTU. Perhaps you forgot that Republicans are in control of the White House and Congress? Pelosi is a Democrat.

    • All the good? The tax bill will add 1.5 Trillion in debt and in 10 years all of the benefit for the middle class will vanish. Daily, regulations safeguarding clean water and air are being undermined. The consumer protection agency, which, like it’s name implies, protects consumer is being gutted to benefit the banking industry. Wage stagnation for the majority of workers continues to be a huge problem. And perhaps the 7.% unemployment for African Americans is good news for you–it really is unacceptably high and if it were the % of unemployment for the entire nation, we would be entering a recession. My rage against the Republicans and Trump is not “sour grapes”. They are systematically destroying my country for my children and people like you think it’s good news.

    • You, sadly, wrote Feb 1st, Larry. The ACTUAL REAL UNDISTORTED in trumped truth is, BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT IS NEARLY DOUBLE the #45 quoted. The stock market has taken a NOSE DIVE of nearly 2000 points, the CBO says unequivocally the tax scam has doubled down on our deficit. In WHAT WORLD do you people get your information? You lend new meaning to the phrase rose colored glasses. He drivels, you faint with the vapors! Please get real! This is February 5th. Your messiah is toying with starting a war to distract us from his Russian crimes, and mid-term elections.

  16. Clearly, the evangelicals who support him are out for one thing and one thing only – their perceived Christian agenda and creating a theocratic government to replace our democracy. So much for separation of church and state. So much for respect for others who practice a religion other than Christianity. Their support of Donald Trump makes them just as culpable for his atrocious and vulgar behaviors and choices as they are enabling him to continue in this vein. My former best friend bemoaned how the evangelicals were so disrespected and harassed. I thought, poor dear, my husbands family was gassed to death in Poland for being Jewish.

    • Tanya, I am so sorry. I am sorry you lived through that, and are facing this scourge in our land of the free. I am so sorry, my heart aches for your pain, and these that have not learned from history will be condemned to repeat it, unless those of us who remember, fight for all we are worth.

  17. Justice is and needs to be a part of peace and love; otherwise love and peace are inauthentic. I got training as a mediator for our community. It only works when people commit to finding a solution that works for each, and it only works when they agree to listen with open hearts and put aside judgement in order to do so. Underneath people’s choices are motives that come from their self-talk and their values that come with deep feelings. Do we have the courage to listen to the perspectives of the less wealthy, less white, less educated, of cultures and religions that differ from ours? You are a voice calling out in the wilderness like John the Baptist. He exposed the callousness of others and called them out on it. It got him beheaded for speaking the truth, and yet history has claimed him as a righteous one. Same with Jesus who did not mince his words with the Pharisees. and they hated him and tried to trip him up for his challenges to them to let go of their spiritual and economic entitlement attitudes. Those who get defensive are those who most need to hear your words. And they have free will choice to ignore your words and to continue down a downward path spiralling away from Christ. Jesus saw this same pattern in his time. He wept over Jerusalem because he had longed to gather people around him like a mother hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and he sighed as he recognized that they would not have this. You re facing the same.

    • “Those who get defensive are those who most need to hear your words. And they have free will choice to ignore your words and to continue down a downward path spiralling away from Christ.”

      As an atheist, I cannot spiral away from what I believe is an imaginary and unhealthy concept. There are those like me who do not welcome christian proselytizing in their gospel sharing. I find it to be grossly offensive in how it promotes slavery and genocide, not to mention that the supernatural impossibilities remain impossible. It should not be exposed to children.

  18. I love your columns and have shared some of them on Facebook.I have been angry since the idiot was elected, So you have a new
    ‘friend here who wants to encourage you to continue fighting . I will.

    • How do you Trump-haters keep that level of anger going without it wearing you out?

      What exactly are you fighting, anyway?

      Can you at least be happy about the improvements in the economy or the great Supreme Court Justice he picked?

  19. John, I couldn’t agree with you more. I am amazed and the lack of humanity I see today. The prayer is that humanity upgrades enough to override the default thinking.

  20. Well I too have wondered about this and phenomenon. People I thought were friends avoiding me because “I am too political”. Friends finding my repost if your blog or an inspirational quote offensive but not blinking an eye when trump uses words of bigotry and exclusion, when consumer protections are removed, Ropa regulations are dismissed and healthcare adversely impacted.
    Silence is poison. Do not apologize for your words that ask us to think, to reach out to others and to act to protect our democracy. Some people are uncomfortable because they either don’t care or agree with trump and his policies.

  21. Your tone is, I agree with you John, none of my business; if I think you are strategically in error, I’ll try to zero in on what I think is wrong and either suggest a specific improvement or admit to being a “diagnostitian without a solution.” Likewise, your opinion of my tone is none of my business.

    I’d rather count people than throw stones. POTUS has pledged to “Make America Great.” [I know there’s another A in the slogan, but that’s not my focus here. Instead, I want to see who are “Americans.”
    The following are all “Google guesses”; let’s not quibble!
    1. U.S. OF A.~ 323 Million [M]
    2. Canada~ 36.2 M
    3. Mexico~127.5 M
    4. Central America~ 42.9M
    5. South America~455M
    6. TOTAL AMERICANS, North and South, Speaking Spanish and English and Portuguese, Immigrants and Native Born and Indigenous~ 1.0046 Billion.
    Of the total population of “America,” only 32% live in the USA. Unless Trump means to make ALL Americans great, he/we need a self-identifying term that distinguishes “US” from “them.” The Ussians and the Russians–no wonder “we” get along so swimmingly.
    But Trump doesn’t want to make ALL Ussians great, does he? Isn’t that why there’s an entity called “The Resistance”? So, of that 32% slice of the American pie “we” Ussians are,only about a third support Trump–so they comprise only 11 or 12% . And here I reach back more than 50 years to recall Bob Dylan’s singing “Only a Pawn in Their Game,” lamenting the self-injury of the fear and false pride of the “at least you’re not BLACK” that the racist White Citizens Council played like fiddles. And then I “get” that “AGAIN” and I get mad as hell!

    • Only United States Citizens call themselves ‘American’. No one in Mexico or Canada (& others) calls themselves ‘American’.

      “Make America Great Again”.

      • and yet, Leslie, America has not stopped being great until that fateful day November 8th, 2016. Now ALL 7 billion people globally have MUCH to fear. Many might not know it, they might not watch Faux non-news, They may not even have TV. But for the rest of us? We wake daily wondering if the gavoon in the WH has started a nuclear war.

  22. Clue: Many of them are closet Fox watchers. They don’t want you to know because they fear your anger!

    I find your anger appropriate, just don’t overdo it.

  23. Thank you! I want to stay out of it. My Faith – Bahai – forbids participating in partisan politics. We are not to cause conflict and contention. We are to find common Ground, Reconcile, build bridges, be inclusive, love all the world. have a sin-covering eye so if there are 10 bad things and one good we see the good. I am trying hard to be that person…… But I often can not keep my mouth shut. I am not angry in my core in that way that causes heart attacks, I am shocked, appalled, traumatized, over exposed to the worst of human behavior, and even more motivated to change this ugly world into a rose garden of human unity. If You don’t see me spewing angry contentious words, it is because i am building what we WANT not feeding what we don’t want. It is going to take all the points of light to dispel the darkness. Yet we have to thank the Darkness for revealing the power of LIGHT.

  24. I am so happy to have found your blog. Your words have constantly given voice to my feelings. And you continue to do so with uncommon grace and eloquence. I, unfortunately, seem to devolve into strings of four letter words when my anger, disgust, shame for some of my friend’s attitudes about all that has gone on. I seem to be preaching to the choir and becoming frustrated with my inability to reach those outside that sphere and have any impact. All I can to is write my congressmen annd legislators with my feelings.
    Since I discovered your column, I now have an eloquent way to reach more.. I post it, share it, tell people about it and it relieves some of the internal roiling that seems to have taken up permanent residence in the pit of my stomach.
    Thank you for your thoughts.
    ?Thank you for committing them to paper.
    Thank you for expressing so many of my thought, so well and to such a wider audience,=.
    Thank you for your service

  25. As an outraged Interfaith minister receiving so much of the same criticism, I want you to know that words cannot express my gratitude for you. You have given me so much strength in this year and helped me immensely to stay true to my message and challenge my challengers. It is impossible for me to express what your courage, fearless truth-talking, and powerful voice of justice has done for me and my work. Thank you. Don’t stop. Keep it up, I’m listening.

    • You should be criticized if you’re preaching Hate-Trump as does this pastor every day. Christianity is bigger and better than that.

      • wow. Larry, I do believe Jesus existed. Everything else is written, spoken and interpreted by MAN, and man is fallible. We are not perfect, yet we aspire to be; at least some of us do. But blind faith for an entity as crooked, foul, vapid, vile, sulpherous, and filled to the brim with brimstone, fire and fury? He is NOT to be trusted. You suggest pandering to the dotard? Than I pity you. I will fight fiercely for those affected by the dotards atrocities. You dein to tell others how they should think? Your hubris suggesting you know what Jesus wants? Perhaps you should meditate and reflect on YOUR motivations.

        • You anti-Trumpsters are the new tinfiol hat crowd. You’re a thousand times worse than then the “birthers.”

          I will strive not to be offended and try to appreciate your entertainment value.

  26. Thank you John for so often putting into words the thoughts I think so many of us are carrying around. I cannot tell you how many of your writings I finish reading and think……Yes. This!

    So hold on to your outrage and I’ll do the same with mine and one by one our voices will be heard.

  27. John,
    Your writings give me hope and you renew my faith in humanity. People in my life want me to stop talking about him and the sanity that goes with him. I won’t and my hope is that you won’t either. John, I know you won’t stop and that keeps me going. Thank you once again!

  28. Again…PLEASE don’t stop what you’re doing, John, because you’re REALLY blessing Pres. Trump and us white evangelicals!!! THANK YOU!!!!
    “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
    Matthew 5:11‭-‬12 NIV
    https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.5.11-12.NIV

    • I don’t recall the book and verse, just the message that in the final days many, and if it be possible even the elite, will be deceived and follow false prophets. Everything Trump has done has reversed the enlightened legislation of those that came before him. Our planet is not exchangeable for another. Yet Trump seems to take pleasure in negating safeguards to protect our water, air, and reduce climate change. These decisions on his part are based on his greed and support of fossil fuel industries. If you want to take a measure of this man, ask yourself why he would jeopardize our planet for the monetary interests of those who do the most polluting. He lies continually, he has no humility, he disrespects and falsifies whatever suits him. And we are supposed to look at the good he’s done? Really?

    • J.C. I can guarantee you one thing. Robert Mueller is going to bless both you and Trump. His accountants have no doubt gone over Trump’s hidden tax returns and business records in all sorts of places here at home and around the world. A crooked man will be crooked in all his ways—-until that precious moment when he hears the sound of handcuffs clicking behind his back. My money says Trump is already doomed because Mueller already has the goods on him.

    • Why you guys can’t stop seeking out people who clearly find trump a disgrace is endlessly a bother. I never once looked to see what Obama haters said, because I knew they were wrong. You guys can’t stop defending because deep in your hearts you know we are right. He is everything we say he is, a moronic, narcissistic, selfish, dim-witted, sexist, homophobic, racist, cruel, extremely inept leader who has an embarrassingly limited vocabulary. And…in time…you will be crushed when he is convicted of being a traitor to our Country. I see your yearning for him to be telling you the truth and that all will be returned to you, but he is lying to you and using you. The orange one cares NOTHING about you. You are his pawns, nothing more. The good you seek will not come from this pathetic shell of a man. It will come from God, who loves you. Put your faith where it matters.

  29. Decades ago as a young nun involved with Pax Christi USA, one of my Franciscan formators told me: “The purpose of following Jesus is to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.”
    Thanks, Pastor. Good to know there are more out there.

    • Please Sister, this pastor and writer is no friend of Catholic beliefs or teachings, though you might pray for him to return the Church, since he was once one of us.

  30. I completely agree with you on this John. I’ve had some Facebook friends passive/aggressively state that Facebook is not the proper platform for political discussion, or that we should all be civil to each other, or that the venal occupant of the White House should be “given a chance,” despite his repeated instances of vile behavior and outrageous lies.

  31. Interesting post John.

    If the crude words about women, the denials, the disrespect to the military service of Senator McCain, the ham-fisted attempt to discriminate against those of a different faith, the explicit support of a politician with a history of sexual harassment towards minors, the payoff of a porn actress, and the continual lies haven’t diminished someone’s blind support for Trump, I’m not sure any appeals to reason will.

    It’s a cult. And the first rule of a cult is that the leader is always right.

  32. I do not lie because I do not like to be lied to. I do not cheat because I do not like to be cheated. I am a rule follower. I believe in and love the God I learned about as a child. My relationship with God has never changed. I see God in every leaf, rock, stream, tree. I believe the majority of people whether or not they believe in a God or a Supreme Being still believe in truth and in treating people like they want to be treated. I believe there are saints walking this earth.

    I want to believe that there is more good than bad. For 2 years we have been bombarded with black is white, white is black, lies are alternative facts, decency is bad, odious behavior is preferred and praised, being called crooked depends on what political party you belong to not the deeds done, cruelty to those we deem lesser is an attribute.

    We are told it is presidential to call names, bully, spew lies constantly, brag ad nauseam, be exempt from following each and every norm expected and delivered by all previous presidents, be coddled and praised daily, denigrate and demean Americans, Republicans, Democrats, all branches of the government, other countries, other leaders, the military, POW’s, families of fallen heroes, and so on and so on.

    I am retired. I do not get a paycheck so there is no increase on it. I am 70 years old with crippled and twisted fingers so all the imaginary jobs will not help me. I do not have a portfolio. This administration has done absolutely nothing for me except make me lose faith in the integrity of my country and feel loathing for those who take our tax money and lie and whose only achievement has been to line their pockets.

    Trump couldn’t go 24 hours after reading words of unity written by someone else before denigrating others. He speaks of transparency so where are his taxes? Plenty of people here love to crow about Obama and the Clintons making money to what end? He will not release his visitor logs. Every person in this administration who met with Russians lied to the American people first. Why so many lies? They are the ones who have made this boondoggle what it is. Trump has kept it alive for a year. He cannot speak without denigrating Obama or Hillary. He is the only one that cannot get over winning the Presidency.

    I am tired and sick at heart and I know it matters to no one but myself. The miasma of ugliness and hypocrisy makes it a struggle to see the light. My ray of light has narrowed to my family and friends and my faith. I pray for the light of truth.

    • Joanne Musto, thank you. That was well written. I agree with you, and I also am clinging to my internal compass , because this world of alt facts that are lies, we live daily an “opposites” day, it IS hard to breathe. I fear for my children’s children’s children. They will pay the price for something too many were to cowardly to stop.
      People like “Larry” with this compunction to denigrate those of us who saw the world headed in a safer, saner direction. With abundance for all. Now, it is in tatters. I just hope Mueller does finally finish and jail this abhorrent mob of swamp monsters.

  33. “You can tell a lot about people by what gets them angry, by the causes they choose to defend, by the stuff that moves them to speak after being silent for so long.”

    In a weak moment, I blew up a Facebook friendship with someone I actually think is a decent person when they posted angrily about the NFL protests by telling her, “I hope I missed your equally angry post at the pro-Nazi protests last month.”

    It’s so transparent. It’s even in the Bible: “Out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.” -Matthew 12:34

  34. I also feel outraged, the issues that anger me are not party issues at all they are human issues that affect everyone . They should outrage everyone as well. Hiding behind your party , defending the person that is president is just wrong. If you handed any person I list of all the things that have been done and said in the last 18 months without knowing who it was, I believe they would be appalled. Hiding from this and not speaking up for human decency makes you compliant.

  35. John and others, I read a fascinating article the other day which I think addresses the issue.

    The conservatives are not impressed with evidence, facts, history, logic, and reason. They are more concerned with appearances.

    “Briefly stated, in the Liberal camp, language is generally used as a means to convey information whereas for Conservatives, language is often used primarily as a tool to achieve an effect. The central concern in the first case is “Is it true? Is it factually accurate?” whereas for the latter it is “Was it effective? Did it achieve the desired outcome?” (Note that this is not offered as an absolute, hard-and-fast distinction. We all occasionally use either style. The key lies in which style predominates when engaged in critical or emotionally-charged communications.)

    “In the first case, a mental perception is translated into words, then expressed to another, who unpacks the words and ideally forms a similar perception – which he or she may then agree or disagree with. In the second case, through social conditioning, one learns that a set of phonemes, uttered in a certain sequence, can produce a desired outcome.”

    This article may be read at: How Liberals and Conservatives Miscommunicate
    AUGUST 1, 2017 BY BILL MILLER

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/companionsonthejourney/2017/08/politics-liberals-conservatives-miscommunication/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Spirituality&utm_content=36

  36. Do You Follow Christ or Anti-Christ?
    FEBRUARY 1, 2018 BY KEITH GILES
    1 COMMENT

    Christ warned us that after he went away, many others would come claiming, falsely, to be the Christ. Our task is to clearly recognize those who claim to be of Christ but, in reality, are not.

    To that end, it’s helpful to remind ourselves who Jesus was and what Jesus said. If we can clearly recognize the original, then we will never accept anything, or anyone, who takes the name of Christ but stands opposed to His character or His teaching.

    So, if Jesus is the Prince of Peace, then the anti-Christ is the Prince of War.

    If Jesus heals, the anti-Christ sheds blood.

    If Jesus says we should love our enemy, the anti-Christ says we should torture them.

    If Jesus commands us to bless those who curse us, the anti-Christ suggests we go to war against them.

    If Jesus says we should pray for those who persecute us, the anti-Christ says we ought to oppress and imprison them.

    If Jesus tells us to care for the poor, the anti-Christ says we should just ignore them, or displace them, or criminalize them.

    If Jesus says his disciples will not fight, the anti-Christ creates weapons and tells us it’s our right to use violence.

    If Jesus says we should turn the other cheek, the anti-Christ says we should destroy those who oppose us or insult us.

    Now, I have to ask you: Who does the Church resemble most?

    Are we of Christ, or are we of the anti-Christ?

    Do we follow those who contradict our King? Or do we recognize their attempts to nullify His commands?
    Do we turn our backs on His teaching? Or do we keep our eyes on the One who said “Love your enemies. Turn the other cheek. Bless those who curse you. Do good to those who hate you.”?

    If we are not following Christ, then we are following the Anti-Christ.

    No one can serve two masters.

    Make your choice.

    **

    Keith Giles is the author of “Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb” and co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast which you can hear on iTunes and Podbean. He and his wife and their two boys live in Orange, CA where they are part of a house church where no one takes a salary, Jesus is the Senior Pastor and 100% of the offerings go to help the poor in the community.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/2018/02/follow-christ-anti-christ/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Progressive+Christian&utm_content=43

  37. I know, I know I am tired of me posting too. This really doesn’t tie directly to Mr. Pavlovitz’s words but I sure wish we were in real time so we could all play – Who is Trump going to blame for the stock market slide? There are so many to choose from – Obama, Hillary, Bill, every Democrat in Congress or in America, immigrants, black athletes, transgenders? So many choices, so little time.

    How many think it was actually tipped over the edge by President Chaos and his weasel agents. We already saw Nunes do his chicken little show last year. And, I apologize, I did not vote for him but he is from California, ugh. Business does not like chaos. But Nunes takes his cue from Trump. They never get it that the hyperbole always overshadows the actual meat of the story. Who cares about Carter Page, or the rest of them. Rich people don’t go to jail anyway.

    And to top it off the wisest man in the group – a man who happens to be suffering from brain cancer nailed it – “The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests – no party’s, no president’s, only Putin’s.” I say thank you John McCain.

    This President and his administration has not done one thing to protect this country from Russia’s interference. No matter what American intelligence agency says otherwise – Putin said he didn’t do it so that is good enough for this President.

    His speech the other night spoke about his duty to protect Americans but he actually only means from people from other countries he doesn’t like. He doesn’t protect us from continuous mass shootings by Americans, from global warming, from corporations who steal from their customers or their employees, he is even cutting disease control and prevention. Maybe this year’s flu hasn’t killed enough people yet. I do what I can to protect this earth and to stay healthy, but I have no armor against a greedy predatory corporation or a person with mental issues who can legally buy automatic weapons and unlimited amounts of ammunition.

    He wants to dump everything into the military because he has this thing about size. The military has never completed an audit and has lost track of trillions of dollars? Where is the business sense? The money never seems to trickle down to the actual boots on the ground soldiers – they are chewed up and spit out.

    I just can’t wait to see who twitterman blames. Let chaos reign. Sad

    • I don’t know much about Nunes but I heard him on Rush Limbaugh’s show and he seemed so decent and honest and reminded and such a gentleman. I became curious because he seemed so Catholic and sure enough I found out that he is indeed a Catholic, so I’m now a Nunes fan. (But not a fan of all Catholics in government, such as the likes of Pelosi and Biden and the Kennedys who have betrayed their faith for political gain).

  38. John, you have consistently caused me to think deeply, as your words opened both my mind and heart. God bless you and keep you strong, gentle and faithful.

  39. I don’t know a lot about politics, but I can see from what I do know. Trump has been dividing this country. Instead of bringing people together, he has been breaking us apart. I have never seen the House and Senate so divided. We need to start waking up to the fact that the Trump presidency is all finger pointing. What have we actually accomplished? Nothing.

  40. My response to those comments:

    Your (John) anger so often expresses what I’m feeling but can’t yet articulate. This helps me release what I feel so I can start working toward solutions.

    You (John) have reached me, and I in turn have shared your words with others.

    Better ways? Such as…? I’m open to suggestions and looking forward to how you’ll lead the way to making a difference.

  41. Wow…want to know why so many Christians are behind Trump? The Democratic party is not only for killing unborn children they cheered and high fives each other when they voted to allow these children to be killed shortly before they are to be born…they cheered, left their seats, hooted and hollered, yet when the president gave his speech and talked about things that were done, things democrats wanted…there was nothing…at one point a Democrat stormed out. Another did stant to clap and Pelosi got up and stared her into silence and back into her seat…really?
    Also…it no surprise that at the least Trump is a goof…a goof that folks wanted over Clinton. In all the countless blogs, articles posts, ect…so many of them are so full of partial truths and deception that most of what you folks say can’t be trusted…this blog is full of them. If Trump is so bad why do you on the left feel the need to lie and deceive?…
    Don’t even get me started on the stuff that happened ten plus years ago…

    This guy is a preacher right?
    What does the Bible say about those in authority? What does it say to do for those in authority. What does it say about the laws of the land? What example did Jesus give us about politics…or Paul?
    Lastly, there are adulterers complaining about his affares…those divorced complaining about his divorces…liars complaining about his lies…women assaulters complaining about him assaulting women…hurrassers complaining about his hurrassing…bullies complaining about his bullying…
    Jesus had a word for folks like that…

    The bottom line-what does the Bible say about what and how …the things we’re to do?

    I’ll tell you what it doesn’t say…it doesn’t say to do the crap most of us are doing!

    This was done on my phone so please excuse any mistakes I made as I didn’t proofread.

    • That a Police officer offered kind words to a pregnant drug addict in the street, and then obeyed God’s voice, was completely lost on the DEMS.

      They cannot fathom such unselfish, nonjudgmental, loving, forgiving, conservative-Christian, God-obedient actions.

      Shameful, disgruntled DEMS, America sees you.

    • You hit the nail on the head in your first sentence, though that qualifies you to be called a “one issue voter.” The reality, however, is that this “one issue” is sacred to the Democrats and Progressives. They give lip service to reducing abortions by promoting promiscuity or giving more power to the State (convenient, huh?), but the bottom line is that this “one issue” must never be touched. Abortion is sadly their unholy sacrament, and a testimony to their hypocrisy and selfishness.

  42. Trump has never done anything to live up to the standards laid down by Christ. He is constitutionally unable to do so. Additionally, Trump repeatedly breaks the Seventh, Eighth, Ninth and Tenth Commandments. How anyone who claims to be a Christian can support him is beyond me. He is mean, cruel, petty, crass, etc. He is a serial adulterer, he covets other people’s things, he steals from virtually everyone who has done work for him, and he constantly bears false witness. Those of you who believe he has done great things for America please tell the rest of us what they are.

    • I don’t think you are really Pope Francis. Even as a non fluent English speaker, I’m pretty sure he could spell “go.”

  43. John, I don’t know if what you write will ever penetrate the veil of Trump supporters, but please don’t stop. Your writings give voice to what so many of us are feeling but cannot articulate. Thank you.

  44. Who is the woman and why is she screaming?

    Can’t you find a picture of a man screaming his rage?

    The rage itself is entirely justified and more people should express it.

  45. As horrible as Trump and the people who explain him away are, it’s helped me realize one thing: this happened in high school and college, and it was wrong when people backed the bully/loudmouth then. It’s important to take care of details like tone, but it’s not top priority.

    I remember people saying “Well, you think you’re nicer than so-and-so, so of course we have to hold you to higher standards.”

    There’s a lot of mental twisting that goes on here.

    The thing is, maybe we can do better, and say things better the next time. But we do have to say it the first time. And we can’t expect it to come out perfectly, because we’re not perfect.

    Trump and the people who enable him are also good at baiting their opponents. And while it’s bad to fall for bait, and we need to do better when we do, well…hearing a big YOU’RE WRONG about it doesn’t help. Also, the baiters don’t get tone policed, or tone police others, because they’re “just being themselves.”

    It’s useful to see what tricks people are playing, because once you do, they aren’t quite as effective any more. For me, it’s allowed me to see into the past and realize I wasn’t crazy when I took some well placed bait and also to realize I have better preparation against being baited.

    I think there are a lot of people turning the initial outrage into something productive. They are running for office. Or signing others up to vote. This isn’t seen.

    Now of course some people hog the outrage and claim to be the most outraged against Trump, as if it’s a contest. But that’s not where progress and growth are at.

    • Oops. I forgot to add to my final comment. Being the most outraged against Trump, as if it were a contest, is a lot like his attentionmongering. People who treat it that way can and should be ignored & I don’t feel they are constructive. They are hogging the oxygen in the room much like Trump does.

      Sure, they help us think “it’s not just us,” but then it becomes too much about them.

      We need to have points laid out, as in this blog post, to see, yes, others are disappointed too. When someone says something that helps lessen my outrage fatigue and see things a new way, I value that highly. It can be too easy to grab the bait and hate Trump more and forget to do anything constructive. But I think people in the Resistance have learned how to avoid that a lot in the past year.

  46. “Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor [perpetual animosity, resentment, strife, fault-finding] and slander be put away from you, along with every kind of malice [all spitefulness, verbal abuse, malevolence]. Be kind and helpful to one another, tender-hearted [compassionate, understanding], forgiving one another [readily and freely], just as God in Christ also forgave you.”
    EPHESIANS 4:31‭-‬32 AMP
    https://bible.com/bible/1588/eph.4.31-32.AMP

    • I have always found it so amazing that you fundies can quote scripture like this—while simultaneously ignoring it and doing the exact opposite of what scripture says in your own lives. I guess it just takes a cold heart and a lot of talent.

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  48. I read an excellent analogy the other day. Obama was the pilot who pulled the plane out of a steep dive that happened during a Republican’s time as pilot. Trump is the Republican pilot who just sits there and praises himself daily that the plane is still headed in the right direction.

    I will add:
    Someone has been asleep at the helm because the nose is going off course. Someone needs to wake up and since the Republicans have been the flight crew, the mechanics and the air controllers for years I would imagine it is up to them. Of course the rest of us can only hold on and hope we can pull up before we hit the point of no return.

    PS. Will someone please retrieve your balls and neuter Nunes? He is even more weird now than when we were forced to watch his first spy vs spy performance. Does he think he is James Bond or Jason Bourne? Geez California we can do so much better. Maybe he needs to be educated by John McCaine.

  49. Mcgyver,

    \\”The Democratic party is not only for killing unborn children they cheered and high fives each other when they voted to allow these children to be killed shortly before they are to be born…”\\

    Killing “children… shortly” before they are to be born…? Can you properly document a single properly example of this… at this blog or anywhere else? As a believer, I’m no fan of abortion, but as for it being a blanket “killing” of “children”… http://www.scottchurchdirect.com/social-justice.aspx/abortion-overview.

    \\”In all the countless blogs, articles posts, ect…so many of them are so full of partial truths and deception that most of what you folks say can’t be trusted…this blog is full of them. If Trump is so bad why do you on the left feel the need to lie and deceive?…”\\

    Again, can you document a single example of these alleged “partial truths and deception” at this blog or anywhere else?

    Note that in all of the above I said *documented*… as in thoroughly and competently researched, and properly cited. Blind accusations without a shred of evidence to back them aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on.

    \\”What does the Bible say about those in authority? What does it say to do for those in authority. What does it say about the laws of the land?…”\\

    Well, I’m fairly certain it says I shouldn’t openly support hate, bigotry, Nazi’s, sexual assault, pedophilia, violence, narcissistic bullying, and the like. Nor can I find anything in it that says, or even implies, that being a disciple doesn’t in any way whatsoever involve taking up a cross and following Him, and in so doing being salt and light to my nation and world (Matt. 5:13-16). If anyone can explain to me how I could authentically follow Him without opposing such things, I’m all ears. Today I stand redeemed because He was crucified by religious and secular authorities who were irritated at Him for taking issue with the same systematic injustices Trump-supporting “Christians” expect me to line up behind them and support… just as you seem to be.

    It says I should be praying for my leaders too. But there are many kinds of prayer, and they aren’t all equally authentic. During WWII for instance, the German Church & Dietrich Bonhoeffer both prayed for their nation and its leader. But unlike the Church’s, Bonhoeffer’s prayers were vocal, public, and no more afraid of divisiveness than Jesus’ were. He once said,

    “We must finally stop appealing to theology to justify our reserved silence about what the state is doing — for that is nothing but fear. ‘Open your mouth for the one who is voiceless’ — for who in the church today still remembers that that is the least of the Bible’s demands in times such as these?”

    On Apr. 8, 1945 the Fuhrer he was praying for, responded to his enjoyment of “division” by having him publicly stripped naked and hung slowly from a slaughterhouse meat hook with piano wire. His death is thought to have taken at least half an hour. His last prayer for said Fuhrer was made kneeling at the foot of the gallows before climbing the steps to his execution.

    It’s funny, don’t you think, how often things turn out badly for those who have the audacity to think that trusting God *doesn’t* mean blind, self-serving nationalism and remaining silent in the face of liberty and justice only for some?

    The difference between the German Church’s prayer and Bonhoeffer’s speaks for itself. Through theirs, the Church trusted God’s purposes silently from a safe distance, whereas through his, Bonhoeffer became the vehicle of those purposes. It’s little wonder that history remembers him differently as well.

  50. Do you believe all the stuff you post? That you are morally superior to anyone to the right of you on the political spectrum? Or is it just something you repeat over and over here in your echo chamber, hoping you will eventually believe it as much as a great deal of your readers do? Let’s look at your list of things that outrage you.
    The Access Hollywood tape: Crude, to be sure. If he actually does do the things he claims, not far-fetched by any means, he’s committed sexual assault. The notion, however, that the left is all of a sudden worried about the sexual improprieties of the president is comical. How many women accused President Clinton of sexual assault? Yet we elected him twice. At least there are some people now who have the self awareness to admit that getting angry over Trump’s behavior after years of giving Bill Clinton a pass is the height of hypocrisy. You don’t, but some do. You rail about the message we are sending our daughters by electing Trump, totally unwilling to acknowledge that you sent that message already 24 years ago. Twice.
    Standing Rock: Really? You are going to put the destruction at Standing Rock on Trump? The only thing he approved was the final leg of the pipeline under the Missouri River, at a spot where there were already eight other pipelines that have operated spill free since they were built. All the bulldozing took place before he was even elected. Never mind that it was all done on private land, and not any belonging to the Sioux. But dates aren’t important, right? Neither are the rights of private property owners. Not when you can drive up the clicks by putting it at the feet of the current administration.
    Elizabeth Warren: Obviously your concern for the struggles of Native Americans ends where your partisanship begins. You don’t seem to have any issue with someone who lied for decades about being Cherokee. Someone who took advantage of her “minority” status to advance through the world of academia, where schools trip over themselves to tout every little demographic tidbit proving how diverse they are. Why else would Harvard list her as a “Woman of Color” when she is plainly as white as the driven snow. She’s out in front of the resistance, though, so we can overlook the years of lying and cultural appropriation (an unforgiveable sin if you are on the right).
    Sally Yates: An unprecedented firing that hadn’t happened since the last time the White House switched political parties. If you choose not to defend the administration’s policies in court, which is a very large part of your job as AG, you won’t be on the job for long. Do you expect the next democrat to win the White House to keep Trump’s political appointees around, when they likely are ideologically opposed to whatever the new administration’s policies will be? Of course you don’t. But we can ignore that, because “TRUMP!” Plus, it’s horribly inconvenient to hold both sides to the same standard.
    Tens of millions who lost health care overnight: Please do provide any evidence that this happened. Also, if I’m no longer forced to buy something, and I choose not to, I didn’t lose anything. My body, my choice, right?
    The #MeToo movement: You spent the last two years propping up and rallying behind a woman who spent the last 30 years using her not inconsiderable power trying to silence and destroy any woman who had the temerity to say “Me Too” about her husband. Then you get mad at people who chose not to listen to a bunch of actors and actresses who spent years looking the other way and ignoring what almost everyone in that business knew about Harvey Weinstein, who suddenly found a backbone after he had already been disgraced. Meryl Streep stood and applauded a convicted child rapist who fled the country to avoid prison during one awards show, and now we are supposed to care what she thinks about sexual harassment and assault at another? What a joke.
    You undoubtedly believe you are on some great moral crusade against a horrible man and his horrible followers, but it’s patently obvious you only care about his behavior because he has an R behind is name instead of a D, since you give a pass to anyone on the left who exhibits similar behavior. You are no different than every other ideologue, left and right, who chooses to ignore everything in the world that contradicts his political views. People don’t turn away from you because you are angry and tell the truth. They turn away because you are angry and you don’t.

    • Saying it’s about R vs D is completely missing the point that Trump is unprecedented among all of them. If he were someone like George Bush who could conduct himself and his White House in a civil, intelligent, organized manner, Mr. Pavlovitz wouldn’t be writing this blog. I don’t understand why people always look at this through the lens of partisan politics as if that were the only way to look at it. And to keep bringing up the Clintons–what is the obsession with them? We need to deal with the reality we have NOW! No one said HC was a great choice, just the better choice when you look at ability, experience and service to others.

      • It absolutely is about D’s vs. R’s. When someone gets outraged at Trump for something that happened during the Obama administration, or something that didn’t happen at all, it’s not genuine outrage. When you rail against one party because of a particular behavior, but can’t be bothered to utter a peep when the other side exhibits the same, it’s political. Don’t kid yourself just because you share his ideology.

      • The reality is that President Trump is not chasing interns at the White House.

        This blog exists because the liberal power base and the swamp in Washington has been shattered and he’s feeling the pain of his compatriots.

        Most of anti-Trump hatespeech is stuff that is made up or blown way out of proportion.

        The wicked witch of the west has been doused with water and she has been screaming “I’m melting” for a year. (I wish she’d go ahead and just melt).

  51. It’s nothing personal sometimes. I regularly unfollow people who use social media as a soap box and get stuck preaching about any one thing ad nauseam.

  52. Mr. Gaster, Wecome! I hope you and your family are all doing well.

    And , or course I have a rebuttal. Can we both agree that we each voted for imperfect humans as we all are. The varying shades of awfulness we saw in each of them is our right based on our life stories and beliefs.

    Can we both agree that up until towards the end of last year a lot of men were allowed to harass and behave in a seriously depraved, odious, harmful, and undeserved way towards those they had power over with very little pushback. In the last few months a huge change has happed that has affected almost every walk of life, every religion, and political party. Trump has not faced a reckoning for things he was accused of in the past. He even received another “mulligan” for new news regarding past behavior. He is Teflon Don. Since 20 years, or even 1 year ago has seen a lot of changes, the whole point seems to be much ado about changing norms.

    We both voted our conscience. You feel you made the right decision. I witness the result of you or many other people’s decision every single day. There is no way you can prove how things would be if the result of the election was different. You can guess, and you can surmise but you actually only know what is happening right now.

    Peace Mr. Gaston

    • Hi, Ms. Musto. The Gaster clan is well, and I hope yours is likewise.

      While I agree that we both voted for flawed people, to be fair I need to point out that, while I am definitely on the right side of the political spectrum, I did not vote for Donald Trump. I couldn’t bring myself to overlook the laundry list of his significant issues. You’ll notice I made no defense of the man in my post. We really did nominate the two worst possible candidates in 2016.

      I think one of the reasons we are so divided as a country, and unlikely to come together anytime soon, is because the loudest amongst us have no use for the actual truth. Mr. Pavlovitz, in my opinion, falls into that category, for all the reasons I laid out above. Some of the things he claims to be outraged by either didn’t happen (tens of millions losing their health insurance), or happened before President Trump was even elected (Standing Rock), let alone in office. When someone distorts history, or just outright makes it up, they bring nothing of value to the debate. Quite the opposite, in fact. He is no different than almost the entirety of congress, or any opinion show host on Fox or MSNBC. They don’t really care about anything beyond what bolsters their talking points. Actual evidence they are correct, or consistent, isn’t necessary.

      I agree that the era of powerful men (even the occasional woman) harassing their subordinates coming to an end is great. Just don’t expect me to applaud people who are suddenly speaking out in support of victims after decades of looking the other way, because suddenly it’s in their best interest to care.

      I take no issue with people who are genuine in their beliefs, regardless of what those beliefs may be. You are a prime example of that. You and I have led different lives which have colored how we see the world, but we can have conversations without either impugning the other’s motives or convictions. The author, sadly, has chosen the demagogue route. I’m sure it drives a lot of traffic to his blog, but he’s part of the class that is dividing us further.

      • Thank you for your response. I am happy that all is well with you and your family. I never meant to imply you voted for Trump. That is why I said we live every day with what you or many other’s voted for. No one knows if things would be better or worse.

        I am 70 years old and have seen norms change by leaps and bounds over the decades. I am older than John Kelly and I do not remember any time when “women were sacred and looked upon with great honor”. I think it was more about most women knowing their place in the hierarchy of life. Many women just had no other options.

        Please do not get me wrong, there are and were abusive women, women who committed adultery, women who walked away from their children even back then. But there has always been those who gave men a wink and a nod to any hurtful behavior.

        I don’t know why it took so long for this abrupt change to happen or why it happened now, but all those who abuse power should face consequences. I believe we were commanded to treat each other better. Most humans seem to be ill-equipped to handle power righteously.

        We can agree that both Mr. Clinton and Mr. Trump abused their power and still served as President. I do remember when Clinton went on TV to apologize with his wife and daughter sitting in the audience. It was painful to watch. I did and still do feel sorrow for what Chelsea went through during that time. The child or children always loses. On the other hand I cannot imagine Trump apologizing for anything.

        There are so many other things going on it is hard to be patient with baby steps.

        Peace Mr. Gaster

  53. Preach on, John! Your words are powerful. They need to be said. As Christian conservative churches continue in their moral and numerical decline, it’s wonderful to have voices like yours out there that offer a refreshing alternative, both comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable, just as Jesus did.

  54. I want to express my sincere appreciation to everyone trolling this blog. In your honor, I have raised $11.59 for Planned Parenthood so far. Thanks, y’all. And have a blessed day.

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  56. I have to marvel at anyone still waiting for Trump supporters to ‘wake up and smell’ the failure or for the Trump administration to ‘do the right thing’. If there is any lesson to be learned since 2016, it is that there is no reaching these folks. They cannot acknowledge “the human rights atrocities, the legislative overreach, the unchecked cruelty, the prevalent hate crimes” that they literally cannot see. They are not equipped or inclined to see the bigger, inclusive, improved picture. They never were.

    The regression that Trump brings is as close to the hateful Messiah of their fantasy as these folks will ever get.

    Why don’t you stop preaching at the lost causes and start preaching to and for those trying to survive and hold on to their faith in the face of such false doctrine, faux religion and fake faith?

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